Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 19:11 | Report Abuse

The Philosophy of Daoism in Trading Successfully....

....essense of water...

1. openness

Water is open to change. (Choose the best theme of every season ......to rotate and play)

It has the ability to adapt to the changing temperature, which turns it into a liquid, solid, or gas.

It adapts to the medium it’s in. It’s a teapot when it’s inside a teapot, or a cup when it’s inside a cup.

Because of its ability to adapt to change and remain flexible, it endures through the ages, overcoming all changes in the environment.




2. low (bottom fishing)

The water that flows in a river always stays low. (Don't chase high)
Yet, it is a life giving force that helps plants grow and keeps all animals alive. (nourish your financial health)



3. Harmony

Water does not fight against any obstacle in its way. (Trend is your friend)

When flowing towards a rock, it gently flows around it without getting upset, angry, or agitated.

With every obstacle scattered along its way, water always finds a solution, without force, without conflict.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-08 19:24 | Report Abuse

good

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 19:26 | Report Abuse

hehe....thank you

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-08 19:30 | Report Abuse

Maths not going to do it for you

Bufalology not going to do it for you

Rigid not going to do it for you

Chartists not going to do it for you


Be water.....may get the job done

Posted by Billyming > 2018-09-08 22:13 | Report Abuse

engineering profit , nice article tq

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-08 23:08 | Report Abuse

The flexibility of water is dependent on the conditions. Water has no right to control its shape. Not to forget water can turn into a hard object too. Being rigid (hard) is part of the water feature. Water won’t be permanently soft or hard. It keeps changing to suit the conditions at a time.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:15 | Report Abuse

You are welcome, Billyming....

Glad that you find it amusing

haha

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:18 | Report Abuse

Up_down,

Guess you have understood the philosophy pertaining to the yin-yang chart of Daoism ady.....



haha

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:19 | Report Abuse

(Can then be like Dr. Strange.......

......or here......Wizard of Bursa?


haha)

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-08 23:26 | Report Abuse

Chaos. Water represents harmony but it may go through a chaos before turning into harmony. People don’t like chaos due to uncertainty but it is the turn point.

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-08 23:28 | Report Abuse

Engineeringprofit. Good one. Your comments inspired me to think further. Ha ha

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:32 | Report Abuse

100% correct........


(in the yin-yang chart.....black and white parts make up a full circle....

......however.....they are not mutually exclusive....

.......in fact, one can find a small white dot in the black half

and vice versa....

i.e. there is yin element in yang....and yang element in yin

(just like men have oestrogen inside them.....while women's blood got testosterone

haha)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:35 | Report Abuse

You are most welcome

:)

Posted by probability > 2018-09-08 23:35 | Report Abuse

now only i read EngProfit comment far above..after seeing up_down comment....indeed its depicting trading accurately. Thanks EngProfit..

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:36 | Report Abuse

You are most welcome

:)

Posted by probability > 2018-09-08 23:37 | Report Abuse

walao..... men got small nipple also..he he

Posted by EngineeringProfit > Sep 8, 2018 11:32 PM | Report Abuse

100% correct........


(in the yin-yang chart.....black and white parts make up a full circle....

......however.....they are not mutually exclusive....

.......in fact, one can find a small white dot in the black half

and vice versa....

i.e. there is yin element in yang....and yang element in yin

(just like men have oestrogen inside them.....while women's blood got testosterone

haha)

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-08 23:45 | Report Abuse

Exactly. With this approach, We see danger in an harmony environment. We see opportunity in the chaos conditions.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > Sep 8, 2018 11:32 PM | Report Abuse

100% correct........


(in the yin-yang chart.....black and white parts make up a full circle....

......however.....they are not mutually exclusive....

.......in fact, one can find a small white dot in the black half

and vice versa....

i.e. there is yin element in yang....and yang element in yin

(just like men have oestrogen inside them.....while women's blood got testosterone

haha)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:53 | Report Abuse

yes...yes...

for recent..... specific examples

when layhong was down to 0.52.....many felt hopeless that it would fall endlessly

......I charged in..and it reounds profitably up to 30%

haha



similar in the case of Suoermax, Airasia, TM

(of course ....also MyEg and Dufu before that)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-08 23:54 | Report Abuse

(In despair.....we can spot hope

......and vice versa......in climax.....we must run first)

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-08 23:58 | Report Abuse

Probability. we can learn and apply Daolism in trading shares in i3.

Posted by probability > Sep 8, 2018 11:35 PM | Report Abuse

now only i read EngProfit comment far above..after seeing up_down comment....indeed its depicting trading accurately. Thanks EngProfit..

Posted by Up_down > 2018-09-09 00:01 | Report Abuse

Congrats. Your mind must be more peaceful than others. It’s not easy to overcome fear factor in such conditions.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > Sep 8, 2018 11:53 PM | Report Abuse

yes...yes...

for recent..... specific examples

when layhong was down to 0.52.....many felt hopeless that it would fall endlessly

......I charged in..and it reounds profitably up to 30%

haha



similar in the case of Suoermax, Airasia, TM

(of course ....also MyEg and Dufu before that)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-09-09 00:07 | Report Abuse

yes.....yes.....hence come....


the dedication in scanning to identify the right theme and stock for each season

the patience to only buy low (while rotating to other counters)

the discipline of selling when..... need to stop loss....or...........profits fulfil one's satiety (TDM says that we must stop eating the moment we feel enjoying eating....haha)

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-09 11:24 | Report Abuse

in last two months, those who ride the IT theme are champion traders......

no Bufalology needed
no chartists needed.
no maths formulas

its business sense first

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-10 18:27 | Report Abuse

If you are reading this post, then you live with the fundamental belief that you are God’s gift to mankind.

Why else would you choose not to traverse the easy path of buying an index fund; but instead choose to match your wits with millions of other above-average God’s gift to mankind denizens?

I can tell you....kyy is not the only one to suffer this God's gift to humankind syndrome.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 11:53 | Report Abuse

win or lose....

stock market is principally about the X factor....not about PE , not about bufalology.


share price = valuation of existing business + valuation of X factor.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 11:54 | Report Abuse

thinking along this line helps to stay flexible.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 11:54 | Report Abuse

the danger is too flexible cannot decide.....but with practise , I have no problems.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 12:00 | Report Abuse

Warren buffet always say stay on course with investment....with very minor structural adj, only when there are really major permanent changes in the industries & business loh...or when u realized u mistake in your investment decision loh....!!

Investment direction should be disciple & rigid with only minor adaption as Warren buffet advice mah....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 12:18 | Report Abuse

Bufalology likes to compare their valuations with market price.


such rigid kills as often as rewards..and also ignores the real stuffs going on....the real stuffs is X factor.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 12:32 | Report Abuse

people who visits forums are ill prepared and not suitable for bufalology.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 16:45 | Report Abuse

There is no such thing as not suitable to buffetalogy loh....is either u r discipline enough & sincerely wanted to adopt buffet method...or u still want to be independent and continue with your up & down mkt chasing method loh....!!

If warren buffet....can do it successful...over long run & grow his wealth with discipline & patience approach....so can u mah....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 16:52 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockraider > Sep 11, 2018 04:45 PM | Report Abuse

There is no such thing as not suitable to buffetalogy loh....is either u r discipline enough & sincerely wanted to adopt buffet method...or u still want to be independent and continue with your up & down mkt chasing method loh....!!

If warren buffet....can do it successful...over long run & grow his wealth with discipline & patience approach....so can u mah....!!
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wishful thinking and no basis in reality

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 16:56 | Report Abuse

people who visits forums are traders, should admit it and do the best trades they can.


no point cheating self and cheating every body just because it sounds more respectable to be a Bufalo man.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 16:57 | Report Abuse

IT IS ALREADY PROVEN...THAT BUFFETALOGY GUARANTEE SUCCESS IN THE LONG RUN...IT IS NO WISHFUL THINKING LOH....!!

JUST STUDY THE PRINCIPLE OF "MR MARKET V MR VALUE" LOH....!!

U CAN SEE IN LONG RUN MR VALUE...USUALLY WINS LOH....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:01 | Report Abuse

stockraider > Sep 11, 2018 04:57 PM | Report Abuse

IT IS ALREADY PROVEN...THAT BUFFETALOGY GUARANTEE SUCCESS IN THE LONG RUN...IT IS NO WISHFUL THINKING LOH....!!

JUST STUDY THE PRINCIPLE OF "MR MARKET V MR VALUE" LOH....!!

U CAN SEE IN LONG RUN MR VALUE...USUALLY WINS LOH....!!
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dreaming

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 17:07 | Report Abuse

IF WARREN BUFFET...CAN SUSTAINED SUCH A HIGH RETURN....WITH HIS FUNDAMENTAL INVESTMENT PRINCIPLE FOR SO LONG AND STILL MAINTAIN HIS TOP 10 WORLD RICHEST POSITION FOR SO MANY MANY YEARS WITHOUT FAIL....SOMETHING MUST BE REALLY RIGHT FOR FUNDAMENTAL VALUE INVESTMENT LOH....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:10 | Report Abuse

Bear in mind one thing....don't call yourself a Bufalologist unless u intend to keep a share for 5 years or more........

we want to follow the Bufalo...be willing and happy to keep a share for 5 years.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:13 | Report Abuse

what happens in reality is that people buy a share based on some metric...and then sell as soon as they feel uncomfortable.....and call themselve a Bufalo man.


....and adopting the Bufalo man as his sifu.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 17:14 | Report Abuse

YES BENJAMIN GRAHAM RECOMMEND INVESTMENT IN MARGIN OF SAFETY STOCKS AT LEAST 3 YRS LOH.....!!

DO NOT DEVIATE FROM WARREN BUFFET'S....MENTOR...B.GRAHAM ADVICE FOR SUCCESSFUL IN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:19 | Report Abuse

talk cock can la....
getting closer to understanding the market......no way....

and don't get me started on your stupid margin of safety.....just a delusion, nothing more...an anaesthetic, a mind bending drug.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:26 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 17:36 | Report Abuse

honesty is a premium...no honesty even to one self.....want to go out to conquer the world, go down mountain cari makan.... delusional and sure to fail.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 17:58 | Report Abuse

Rubbishloh...buffetalogy fit every sort of companies mah.....!!

As long as it has big margin of safety or with high growth with strong balance sheet and together with management with great integrity loh...!!

Don let traders...like qqq....rundoqqqwn on great warren buffet....bcos qqq being a trader don...have a clue....what is fundamental value investment loh....!!

If he don practise ...it ...but why simply badmouthed...already proven investment method....by warren buffet....value investment leh ???

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-11 18:24 | Report Abuse

smallish companies, no track record....want to talk about Bufalo man....

pure rubbish.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-11 18:28 | Report Abuse

alot of small co....has track record mah....thats how hartalega, pmetal, hapseng, myeg....are created mah.....they are created from small growth companies mah....!!

Just look for this type of potential company & invest long term loh....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-12 11:06 | Report Abuse

good sharing

https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600173569.jsp

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-12 11:12 | Report Abuse

stockraider alot of small co....has track record mah....thats how hartalega, pmetal, hapseng, myeg....are created mah.....they are created from small growth companies mah....!!

Just look for this type of potential company & invest long term loh....!!
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don't kid yourself...neither u nor kc is good enough to pick the winners....pick the losers got la.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-12 12:33 | Report Abuse

the qualities of great companies lies outside the Balance Sheet...to pick the winners, its business sense and willingness to take risks...qualities kc and this raider desperately lacks.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-12 12:35 | Report Abuse

he who talks of margin of safety just do not have the ingredients to pick great winners.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-12 12:42 |

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