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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-27 16:39 | Report Abuse

Haha i3lurker,
Why so upset and angry with Philip comment?

Philip is an old fashioned man and an overly doting husband.

Please forgive him that he know nothing about sex industries because his whole life he only enjoy reading, working and stocks market.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 16:46 |

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 17:08 |

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Posted by enigmatic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > 2020-04-27 19:55 | Report Abuse

Only fools without valid arguments resort to ad hominem attacks

Posted by Philip ( Random Walk Theorist) > 2020-04-27 20:38 | Report Abuse

Hi teoct, really much thanks and appreciate the stock tip. I bought a block of shares at 12.50hkd to monitor and view. Thanks and let me know if we can catch up one day to chat more.

Cheers and have a great week.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 22:26 |

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 22:30 |

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qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-27 22:38 | Report Abuse

lurk....U think I am otb and sensitive as him meh?

I couldn't be bothered...........

This is internet after all.........

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 22:49 |

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qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-27 22:54 | Report Abuse

me? whatever I write, I believe it helps me to make money, improve my results.....that is why I write.....not to make u rich ( or poor)

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-27 22:55 | Report Abuse

lurk...if u lose money after reading my stuffs.......that is your problem....not my problem...........

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 22:59 |

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qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-27 23:07 | Report Abuse

u didn't lose money? then what is your problem?

Posted by Philip ( Random Walk Theorist) > 2020-04-27 23:11 | Report Abuse

Qqq, please don't feed the trolls. Just ignore idiots.

Better use of your time. Trolls don't use logic or common sense.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:12 |

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:17 | Report Abuse

logic and common sense is to make money and fook millions in the process by investing in "certain" companies.

If that is the case, then I welcome uncommon sense.

again, money is not important.

Invest responsibly is.

but actually such money making companies, by historical records are just waiting to fail.

Investing responsibly by ignoring gold mines selling banned products are actually in the long run making more money.

Posted by Philip ( Random Walk Theorist) > 2020-04-27 23:22 | Report Abuse

He has already been proven to be a troll with no results and the stock recommendation that he has made in GDEX had already down the level of his stock analysis. There is no point in asking him anything further. All he will do is fool you with smoke and mirrors. Nothing further to learn here.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:25 | Report Abuse

Lesson learned here is NOT to invest in companies selling banned products.

All who came here
and "Most" learned this
except for the person buying based on stock tip
and eyes full of "$" only.

Rwkl

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Posted by Rwkl > 2020-04-27 23:28 | Report Abuse

Wow,! The locals got wind of your position and pushed it up by 20 pct!
Anyway, Philip, mind to share what other salient points you noted which prompted this almost immeadiate action was to the first as you normally do a much through research?
It would be great if teoct can chip in too.
Thanks

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:29 | Report Abuse

WoW!!! another "$" feller willing to destroy China just to make money.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:32 | Report Abuse

to most reasonable people it would be just a matter of time before China bans the product and then share price will just jump off the cliff.

When you invest responsibly, you can sleep well at night and dun have all this sort of worries, like banned products.

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-27 23:43 |

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qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 00:55 | Report Abuse

lurk...its rather funny that you and so many others prefer to write about me than to address what I write. However, if people address what I write eg.............WHAT SO BRILLIANT. Everybody knows gloves in demand

then I can respond such as....................the brilliance is seldom in the knowledge... the brilliance is in the decision making...

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/qqq33333333/2020-04-23-story-h150608...

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 00:57 | Report Abuse

also this..........what's your problem, lurk?


the passport to success is written with words PROACTIVE, CONSISTENT AND CONFIDENCE

so what does proactive mean?

does it mean u must act very fast? faster than the next guy?

I would say, most of the time , that would be a mistake. Haste is not always best. I think it is ok to relax, most of time....

Proactive does not mean u have to react to every thing that happens....That would be called reactive which is a bad habit.

Proactive means u think through a problem and stay ahead of others, but do not react too often.....

Its like the virus....if u are proactive, u see it coming and u do some thing about it.

If are the reactive types, u only react to it when it hits u and reacts to every little signals.

Proactive means, u take a more medium term approach. And act only after u have think things through............

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 01:12 | Report Abuse

its financial market vs realists

financial markets bullish, realist bearish.....

so if you are realist like me, what are u going to do?

u can stay out of the market

or u can buy QL which after all is stable food and unaffected by the virus/ lockdowns.

or u can buy gloves, which logically is the only game in town. And,so if money is being poured into this sector and out of other sectors....the shear weight of money means u will potentially make money..................see..........stock market not so hard one.

Posted by Philip ( Random Walk Theorist) > 2020-04-28 05:45 | Report Abuse

Much kudos to teoct. I'll try to write an article explanation what I saw on it as a business.

To be honest, ever since I retired I have a lot more time to read and do valuation these days. The recent MCO had only compounded my time that I spend reading. I think I have been far more prolific recently on being able to look up stocks and buying stocks during this period.

Also, since I have been shooting fish in a barrel recently, it really wasn't that a hard a decision to make. The stock market has fallen to a very decent valuation recently, a lot of things are a screaming buy nowadays.

>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by Rwkl > Apr 27, 2020 11:28 PM | Report Abuse

Wow,! The locals got wind of your position and pushed it up by 20 pct!
Anyway, Philip, mind to share what other salient points you noted which prompted this almost immeadiate action was to the first as you normally do a much through research?
It would be great if teoct can chip in too.
Thanks

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 07:39 | Report Abuse

Good morning qqq3,
The problem with you is you talk the talk but never walk the talk. That is why your result is very poor.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 07:57 | Report Abuse

Interesting moral Question

Would you buy shares in a company selling Opium to China?

People without morals definitely would. Or is it integrity? To such people, money is the moral. Have money means have morals and integrity.

Would you buy shares in a company selling Opium to China? if it means you will make a Trillion RM?

Similarly would you buy shares in a Company that sells banned products to China? Again the answer is, have money means have morals and integrity to some people.

To me, the First Criteria is still Responsible Investing. Making money is Not Important at all.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 08:00 | Report Abuse

sslee

Would you buy a company selling banned products to China?

like say goat's milk infant formula had been banned in US, UK and Euro, but China imports it.

Would you buy shares in such a company and just fook China?

Is money more important to you than morals and integrity?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 08:37 | Report Abuse

Good morning i3lurker,
Me, once bitten twice shy. I will never trust any Mainland Chinese again. Philip say I lose 2 million in Xingquan because I hold 3million+ shares that become toilet paper. I learnt my lesson and never again.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/cscsc/2016-12-08-story111267.jsp

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 08:54 | Report Abuse

sslee

fair enough
the spectre of the Ugly Chinese with no morals and no integrity

mainland Chinese have no issues selling banned products to their own motherland country coz they have no morals and no integrity.
Guess we just found out many Malaysians are also just like mainland Chinese

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 09:00 | Report Abuse

sslee
have you noticed that both the cups are empty?
surely that is a sign from God?

A personal message to you. You should have dumped all back then

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 09:05 | Report Abuse

haha i3lurker,
You should encourage Philip to sell his overvalue Malaysia Stocks and buy more international undervalue stocks.

By the way you too can recommend some undervalue international stocks for Philip consideration. Otherwise he will forever holding to his overvalue Malaysia stocks with PE50 and PEG 10 when you can got some very good growth international stocks of PEG below 1 to 2.5

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 09:11 | Report Abuse

sslee

I have no interest in Philip at all.
He not worth my attention.

I tend my own garden
and everyday is a Guinness Stout with Lobster Day.

What Man is a Man who does not make this World a Better Place?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 09:14 | Report Abuse

Haha,
My biggest thanks to uncle Philip again.
My STAR TP of 40 cents reach.
Will hold for another 2 days because by 2th May i3lurker will short STAR to 26 cents again.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 09:46 | Report Abuse

Dear i3lurker,
Don’t be so hard on Philip after all he is human too with his character flaws but basically he is a good man.

As engineer he had contribute his fair share in building up company that benefited many people and society.

By the way no one is perfect.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 10:10 | Report Abuse

sslee..........I could have done better if I did not catch the falling knife too early...............but, no harm done............the market rebounded promptly since. ...........and that experience prompted me to write...........

the passport to success is written with words PROACTIVE, CONSISTENT AND CONFIDENCE

so what does proactive mean?

does it mean u must act very fast? faster than the next guy?

I would say, most of the time , that would be a mistake. Haste is not always best. I think it is ok to relax, most of time....

Proactive does not mean u have to react to every thing that happens....That would be called reactive which is a bad habit.

Proactive means u think through a problem and stay ahead of others, but do not react too often.....

Its like the virus....if u are proactive, u see it coming and u do some thing about it.

If are the reactive types, u only react to it when it hits u and reacts to every little signals.

Proactive means, u take a more medium term approach. And act only after u have think things through............

teoct

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Posted by teoct > 2020-04-28 10:22 | Report Abuse

i3lurker, I do not know whether to cry or laugh.

you said - "I dun buy on stock tips, definitely not from qqq3 or some other people who buy companies selling banned products"

Appreciate if you will illustrate more on why these products are banned (or rejected). Are you referring to infant formula milk (IFM) either from cow or goat or both that is banned in EU, UK & USA being sold in China. These products are formulated and blended with milk from the same sources in Netherlands (& Australia plus New Zealand) that a lot of other multinational companies procure their milk from.

The auditor, Ernst & Young i trust would not audit such a company knowingly importing banned products for sale. Also the many millions of Chinese (mother), that I don't think are so stupid after the 2008 melamine in milk incident to buy products that are banned in EU/UK/USA. And China's approving authorities allowing them to be sold is mind boggling.

Please, do point to the source(s) of information that led you to such conclusion. I would appreciate it very much as indeed I shared (construed as tips in your view) the company selling banned products (I and my family owned shares in the company).

You will be doing civic duty to correct my misguided morally reprehensible investment.

While I am in Malaysia, I believe I know among other things to surf the net and access information the world over just like you. Maybe I lack the assistance that you have, I could only access so many web-sites and I have yet to find any evidence that these products are banned in EU/UK/US. Not approved (yet) in US, that I know, as all IFM need to be approved by respective countries authorities on food before being allowed to be sold.

So laugh, the other interpretation to your statement is like a child crying over spilled milk (sorry, no pun intended - yes we are talking about a company selling milk here).

But, i3lurker, I am dead serious about the first part of my assertion and that is bordering on calling my integrity into question that I don't think you are doing. But if you are, please substantiate with facts, thank you very much. I will be the first to apologies to all readers that I knowingly mislead them if your facts are correct.

RWKL - you will need to do your own due diligent and also wait on i3lurker clarification on the banned products (true or false), you do not want to be morally bankrupt do you.

sslee - I am sorry you had such bad experience with the red chips - those were crooks IMHO. But that doesn't mean that this bunch in the milk company is not. However, their professional response to the assertion that their sells was manipulated recently by a hong kong specialist analyst firm that i3lurker pointed to (much) earlier is telling.

And as usual happy investing all.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 11:18 | Report Abuse

Dear Teoct
Thank you for your understanding for my mistrust and bitterness with Mainland Chinese CEO. I did not harbor any ill-will on your stock picked Ausnutria (HKG: 1717) as I have not yet study this company and would like to wish you well and success with your investment.

I am actually learning from all the i3 Sifu and had make back some of my losses doing trading. My biggest holding now is INSAS and I make an effort to attend AGM and getting to know the BOD and external auditor.

Hence I do not understand why Philip insist INSAS core business is helping people buy and sell stocks, so it is easy for INSAS to game the system by setting the accounting up so that it ALWAYS looks nice on paper and his made up INSAS BOD to be crooks without even knowing them.

Thank you

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 11:21 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
May I correct your sentence, “sslee..........I could have done better if I did not catch the falling knife too early...............” You are catching the falling knife too early or actually chasing high on Kpower and SCIB and got yourself trapped?

Remember what you wrote:
the only smart ones are those who sold all several weeks ago...never look back,....do not get tempted.........

I am not among those............

In theory that is what I should have done, told my self that before the mess, even write about it. Told friends I am prepared for all eventualities...........

But 1 or 2 weeks of negligence, all the good work done in last 2 years all gone.
19/03/2020 12:04 PM

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 11:57 | Report Abuse

Dear i3lurker,
They do the same to calf too.
So you better convert to vegan and no more lobster for you anymore.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 12:13 | Report Abuse

sslee
Yes
today will be Guinness Stout with Seaweed

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 12:35 | Report Abuse

There are more than SCIB and Kpower......

I was caught with about 10 counters catching the falling knife too early, even though nothing about the virus surprised me.......


but its ok...........all rebounded 50% to 100% from the lows (that is when I wrote that.)

teoct

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Posted by teoct > 2020-04-28 13:44 | Report Abuse

Hi Choivo Capital - been a while since we last chat.

Management quickly appointed an independent review committee (IRC) (consisting of all independent directors) as well as an independent consultant (Deloitte Advisory (Hong Kong) Limited) reporting to the IRC (only) to carry out investigation on the allegations.

One can find the reports on the allegations https://doc.irasia.com/listco/hk/ausnutria/press/p191029.pdf.

Basically, there is no truth in the allegations made by Orca. Nonetheless, there are some improvement to be made that the company will do.

The quick response by management restored confident in the company. That is what a Chinese saying: 脚正不怕鞋歪 (an upright man is not afraid of gossip).

This quick response, nothing to hide attitude, to me is very important.

Hope that provided some answer - whatever it is you are looking for.

But do be careful, you might be participating in a morally reprehensible investment.

Stay safe.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 13:46 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3,
You give away yourself too much when you like to comment in everything.

Still remember what you wrote in JAKS forum:
Mar 14, 2020 12:51 PM | Report Abuse
I no more bullets, want to buy some thing got to sell some thing already

Mar 14, 2020 12:35 PM | Report Abuse
me? this market crash means I find myself having both Jaks and dayang and several others... my portfolio not been as spread out as now for a long time

Mind telling us are you still looking at many % book losses?

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2020-04-28 13:48 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-04-28 14:02 | Report Abuse

Haha i3lurker,
Many people jump down from the top floor of Genting hotel when they lose all in the Casino.

Then why still got big funds and many people buying Genting shares?

Time for your afternoon nap and later we can go happy hour Guinness Stout with Seaweed.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-04-28 14:06 | Report Abuse

right...that was march 14.........now its April 28.............the rebound was fast and furious..............I am ok now..........

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