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Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-03-10 13:20 | Report Abuse

Qqq! Yeah, US indeed is to blame for Ukraine! But the president f Ukraine, is not so bright! He is like Syed Saddiq, enjoy been popular! Due to his short sightedness was so excited to join NATO! Even during this conflict, he ask EU to place no fly zone over Ukraine, that's as good as declaration of war from EU!
So yeah, Zelensky is indeed a true comedian! I am beginning to see why this civil war has taken place! I mean, we already know how shortfused Putin is lately! On Russia side, you have this short circuted dictator! On Ukraine side, you have a comedian trying hard to make himself laugh! Then you have senile US president who enjoy intervening others backyard! Then you have EU who basically do opposite to everything they vow to do! I mean, how dumbass Germany can be! They have 17 nucklear power plant and was energy dependent! Then they demolish them for coal which is totally against climate change they are preaching! And worst still get half of their oil from Russia!
The only smart one is Donald Trump! He repeatedly told all this world leaders to be careful! Instead they mock and insult Donald Trump!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-03-10 13:32 | Report Abuse

And now Donald Trump already foresee WW3 developing! He said that if Germany and Japan expand their military capabilities, it's as sure as WW3! I mean, judging from how many times Donald has accurately predicted things that have unfold today, i say we are doomed!

Posted by AlsvinChangan > 2022-03-10 13:49 | Report Abuse

The economic sanctions will last alot longer than the war

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-03-10 13:51 | Report Abuse

Yeah, the economic sanctions will be in place as long as Putin in charge! This is the perfect opportunity for US and EU leaders to take him down!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-03-10 13:51 | Report Abuse

Unfortunately Germany as usually will indirectly help Putin! Germany can't even ban crude oil from Russia!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-10 13:53 | Report Abuse

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3169900/australia-injects-us27-billion-military-expansion-indo

The western sphere will one by one ramp up weapons, sleeping too long especially Germany

Posted by AlsvinChangan > 2022-03-10 14:01 | Report Abuse

wondering are all Major NATO countries like France and United Germany wanted war with russian

IF France and United Germany have no choice but follow warmonger USA, these countries are not independent and free to decide own destiny

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2022-03-10 14:02 | Report Abuse

Well, Putin seems to enjoy war very much!

Posted by Unonono999 > 2022-03-10 14:08 | Report Abuse

Oil non stop rising. It will follow by financial crisis. Commodities too high now. Companies too weak to buy after battered down by covid.

Posted by Apanamaitu > 2022-03-10 17:51 | Report Abuse

Would it be far fetched to say that China's the target? There are insidious plans to stop China any which way, that might include wiping out huge chunks of the population. That's what evil people do. Think NaziXXX.
https://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc

Posted by Unonono999 > 2022-03-11 09:54 | Report Abuse

Gold price will go mad because the war is extended!

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-11 11:11 | Report Abuse

Well since China is behind this invasion, there wouldn’t be much tears when the same medicine on Ukraine is applied

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 13:47 | Report Abuse

It's actually Xi Jinping's that is responsible. He wants the west to be at war so that the US will be too busy when China finally use military force to takeover Taiwan. But it failed when the NATO refused to send troops to fight Russia directly. Now that Ukraine is proving to be stronger against Russia as previously thought, and that Russia is becoming increasingly isolated from the world due to sanctions, Xi Jinping is having second thoughts about supporting Putin. Ultimately, Xi Jinping lied when he pledged that there will be no limits to the Russia-China partnership. Putin should have never trusted him. Xi can't even back him up during the UN vote. Belarus, North Korea, and Syria make for better friends than China.

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-11 13:48 | Report Abuse

Well Putin did fly all the way to Beijing to get approval and support for the invasion. But logistics is the big issue now. Russia’s main export channel is to west Europe so even if north Asia decides to purchase, there would be massive congestion also. That’s why Aus coal is at USd 400/tonne, regardless of any announcements by China to boycott Aus.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 19:07 | Report Abuse

China intended to use Uyghurs slaves to give it an unfair economic advantage, but the world found out, which caused serious damage to China's reputation. It's possible China also instigated the war in Ukraine to distract people from its current human rights abuses.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 19:47 | Report Abuse

At this point, what proof do you have that they're not using Uyghurs as forced labour. UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims themselves, have called out on China's human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

But let me guess, all these people and organizations are in cahoots with the US to undermine China? The US can't even get their own people to take vaccines, or even stop their own news organization (CNN, New York Times, Associated Press, etc.) from talking crap about their government.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 19:50 | Report Abuse

Yeah, definitely harmony. Because the CCP prevents the Uyghurs from fighting against oppression by sending them to camps. The US gives their minorities rights to protest and speak out.

Peace through oppression, that's what the CCP is all about.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 20:07 | Report Abuse

I can understand why the CCP had to create an entire national censorship system to control what Chinese can read/watch/write/say/hear. By preventing Chinese from getting access to free information, The CCP can just say "wEsTerN pRoPaGanDa" at everything it doesn't like and get away with it.

But qqq3333, you know we're not in China right? Saying "wEsTerN pRoPaGanDa" at everything doesn't work here. Unlike the Chinese, we have google. Global times also we can access, MalaysiaKini/New York Times/Washington Post/etc. also can access.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 20:09 | Report Abuse

Yeah, the President of America cannot simply lie. President of China can lie all he wants, he controls the media in China wat.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 20:32 | Report Abuse

The Washington Post suggests President Donald Trump told 30,573 false or misleading statements over 4 years. Based on this number, he is clearly a prolific liar

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-11 20:33 | Report Abuse

That’s why Washington post can post this without fear of the editor being hurried 6 feet underground

Up_again

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Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-11 20:34 | Report Abuse

Burried

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 20:37 | Report Abuse

Through April 29, his 100th day, Biden has made 78 false or misleading statements, according to a Washington Post Fact Checker analysis of every speech, interview, tweet or public statement made by the president. That compares to 511 such statements in Trump’s first 100 days

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 20:42 | Report Abuse

The fact that we know the lies told by US presidents just shows how free newspapers in the US are to expose the wrongdoing of their government. Can we expect the same with Chinese newspapers when in comes to Xijinping's lies. Nope.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 21:03 | Report Abuse

https://spartacus-educational.com/USAswintonJ.htm
John Swinton, former Chief of Staff of the most powerful and prestigious newspaper on earth, The New York Times, when asked to give a toast to the "free press" at the New York Press Club stated:

(1) John Swinton, speech in New York City (1880)
There is no such thing, at this stage of the world’s history in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dare write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my papers, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. *We are intellectual prostitutes*

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 21:14 | Report Abuse

They're not serving anyone by forcing the Chinese to stay ignorant. To say that a country filled with ignorant people is a way to solve problems just defies all logic and evidence. Look at Taiwan (also filled with ethnic Chinese people), they are more prosperous (2x GDP per capita, lower inequality, high standards of living, etc.), and they did it without keeping people in a bubble of ignorance.

Intellectuals in China are definitely informed of world affairs, otherwise they wouldn't be intellectuals. But the problem is, do they have the freedom use their intellects if the CCP doesn't like their ideas? Nope. Just look at what happened to the 1989 student protesters near Tiananman Square, they got shot.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 21:35 | Report Abuse

Of course got freedom. In the US, you can talk crap about the president, CNN does it all the time. Don't like what CNN is saying, you can start your own newspaper or blog to give your opinion. No problem. People in the US can even read Global times and watch the Battle of Lake Changjin. In china, you can't even watch "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings". What nonsense is that?!? Of course their censorship laws are not perfect, but overall, compared to China, the Americans are free to express themselves.

And the CCP is not serving anyone by forcing the Chinese to stay ignorant. To say that a country filled with ignorant people is a way to solve problems just defies all logic and evidence. Look at Taiwan (also filled with ethnic Chinese people), they are more prosperous (2x GDP per capita, lower inequality, high standards of living, etc.), and they did it without keeping people in a bubble of ignorance.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 21:35 | Report Abuse

And also, we're not China, there's mountains of proof about China's crimes in Xinjiang in which we can access, unlike the Chinese. Saying its just "western propaganda" or "western lies" doesn't work here.

And thousands of student protestors died in Tiananman. The fact that they did't run over tank man doesn't make up for the CCP's crimes against the protestors.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 21:58 | Report Abuse

Except that it's not just western newspapers that called out on China's crimes in Xinjiang, but also UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims. To say all these people and organisations are lying and that only China, a dictatorship known for killing it s own people before and has yet to be remorseful of it, is the one telling the truth makes no sense.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:04 | Report Abuse

Work? Definitely work for the CCP. For the chinese people, not so much because they're are less prosperous than the Taiwanese. It's obvious the Chinese who sided with the CCP during the civil war chose the wrong side. They should have sided with the KMT if they wanted prosperity.

Results? China is not even categorised as a high-income developed, unlike Taiwan. The results they got is crap. Chinese work 996, yet earn less than the Taiwanese.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:07 | Report Abuse

They live "harmoniously" because they put minorities in internment camps where they're abused, sterilized, and scared into silence.

Peace through oppresion, that's what the CCP is all about. They will shoot even students, just like they did near Tiananamm Square in 1989.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:20 | Report Abuse

China has lots of natural resources. Taiwan is not even recognized as a country by the UN. The fact that the Taiwanese did better is because they didnt suffer from the CCP's cultural revolution and the great leap forward, along with the CCP's poor ability to allocate resources that continues till this day. Taiwanese have nothing to be jealous about.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:22 | Report Abuse

Uyghurs in China are not happy. You said so yourself, the chinese media role is to serve the government. So it obvious that they wouldn't be truthful with how the Uyghurs are really feeling: Scared.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:31 | Report Abuse

No facts are being distorted. Uyghurs victims who managed to escape Xinjiang have been interviewed and have appeared in person to testify against China. Their statements are available online. I read it, and it's horrifying. Women Uyghurs in those camps
said that they were sterilized, beaten, and raped repeatedly by guards. They said there were some detainees who attempted to commit suicides. The CCP is committing heinous crimes against humanity.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:51 | Report Abuse

Those muslim countries are scared that China will hurt them by restricting their access to the chinese market. Look at Australia, they restricted the purchase of Australian coal just because the Aussies called for an investigation into Covid origin. The US won't sanction countries for petty reasons, only when they feel there's a direct threat to their security or of their allies will they enact sanctions. Look at Malaysia, Mahathir talked crapped about the west, still okay. If we say biden is shyt and america is evil, still okay. If we say China is committing genocide, for sure the CCP will hurt us. Our former PM said so himself, china is too powerful for us to call them out for Xinjiang.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 22:52 | Report Abuse

Just a very simple questions how many Uyghurs are living outside China? Shoundn't many will leave China if there is any genocide?

Now how many Ukraines are living outside Ukraine before the war and how many now become refugees?

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 22:56 | Report Abuse

Not many can get out because they're under constant surveillance. There are cameras in their front doors. And in China, the government can read you private messages, and know when if you bought a bus or plane tickets. Plus you need passport to leave, something the CCP can take away from you. The CCP even send a government official to live with them. No joke, this was even shown in Chinese news. They said it's to teach the Uyghur to be better and that the government officials and the Uyghurs are happy to be living together. Absolute nonsense.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:02 | Report Abuse

Also, one way in which the genocide is being done is through force sterilization. They don't machine gun the Uyghurs or gas them like the natzis.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:07 | Report Abuse

Two wrong dont make a right. The west has definitely made their fair share of human atrocities, but that doesn't automatically make China innocent. The facts are clear, China is committing human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 23:09 | Report Abuse

Masses of refugees from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and elsewhere have faced racially motivated hostility in Europe whereas Ukrainian refugees are being treated with compassion, writes Sonali Kolhatkar.

IT WAS INEVITABLE that when brown-skinned Afghan refugees fleeing war were turned away from European borders over the past few years, the callous actions of these governments would come back to haunt them.

A whopping 1 million people have fled Ukraine from Russia’s violent invasion in the span of only a week. They are being welcomed – as refugees should be – into neighbouring nations, inviting accusations of racist double standards.

Posted by Eamonn6366 > 2022-03-11 23:10 | Report Abuse

Why the west only blame Russia ? What about the real EVIL ? US has been blowing up many countries with multiple bombs a day for decades, killing countless numbers of civilians.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:11 | Report Abuse

Yes, absolutely unfair on the part of the west.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:11 | Report Abuse

But two wrong dont make a right. The west has definitely made their fair share of human atrocities, but that doesn't automatically make China innocent. The facts are clear, China is committing human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 23:15 | Report Abuse

During China one child policy, Han chinese face force sterilization and abortion so is this genocide of Han chinese.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 23:23 | Report Abuse

Any thing to fear China when China foreign policy are: mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit and peaceful coexistence

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:25 | Report Abuse

No they do not. Malaysia talk crap about the US all the time, we called them out for Iraq and said george bush is a war criminal. We are obviously not scared of offending the US. Philippine's Duterte called Obama an SoB, they're obviously not scared either. They even extended their military defence treaty with the US, which requires the US to support the Philippines in case it is attacked. This is especially useful considering that China is bullying the Philippines in the South China Sea because of the 9 dash line claim.

Cupcakes69

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Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:27 | Report Abuse

China bullying of filipino fisherman and its harassement of Malaysian O&G vessels proves that China's foreign policy of "mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit and peaceful coexistence" is a lie.

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