Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:32 | Report Abuse

Thats like saying "how can the Natzi be committing genocide against the Jews when the jews are very well accomplished scientist in Germany". In the end, millions of jews were killed. Same as millions of Uyghurs and other muslim minorities are detained in camps in Xinjiang.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-11 23:47 | Report Abuse

https://waveneyeconomics.com/2020/07/18/doing-a-coca-cola-in-the-south-china-seas/

Just wonder why British (Malaya) and US(Philipine) did not claim all those islands for Borneo and Philipine?

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-11 23:57 | Report Abuse

This is not China, we have access to both state controlled Chinese news media and non-Chinese news media. Just shouting "Western Lies" or "Western propaganda" doesn't work here. The facts are clear. UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims have stated that China is committing human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:00 | Report Abuse

And the UN human rights committee is not a washington funded entity. The UN committee CERD, who said that more than 1 million Uyhhurs and other muslim minorities are detained in so called "education camps", has a Chinese national as chairperson.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:04 | Report Abuse

All information is freely available online. I know you love China and is blinded by their propaganda. But at this very moment, there are Uyghur women in those camps being sterilised and raped. You spouting "western lies, western propaganda" won't magically make that untrue. Facts are facts.

Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-12 00:09 | Report Abuse

What China does to its minorities, Malaysia can follow
And the local Chinese here will surely support wholeheartedly.
Asalkan done in China, we can follow

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:15 | Report Abuse

No ones being silly. The UN Committees' report that said more than 1 million Uyghur and muslim minorities are detained in Xinjiang "education camps" is available online in their website. Anyone can read it. As I said, we're not in China. We have access to these information.

Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-12 00:16 | Report Abuse

Sure, problem is our local politicians say, and have no balls to follow through. They are too accommodating

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:17 | Report Abuse

No China doesn't say what it means and means what it says. It said its foreign policy is mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit and peaceful coexistence. And yet, Filipino fisherman, and Malaysian O&G vessels were harassed by chinese vessel because of China's 9 dash line claim.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:20 | Report Abuse

Nope, it's the UN human rights committee under the OHCHR. The chairperson of the committee is even a chinese national. These information is available online in the OHCHR website. You are clearly resorting to obvious lying.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:22 | Report Abuse

Xijinping who at this moment is committing genocide.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:23 | Report Abuse

Nope, the committee existed waaaaaay before Biden even became president. You are being a lier.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 00:35 | Report Abuse

The committee is called the "COMMITTEE ON THE ELIMINATION OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION"

Anyone could google what it is, and read its latest report on China, which says that more than 1 million Uyghur and muslim minorities are detained in China.

So don't bother lying.

Posted by Up_again > 2022-03-12 00:46 | Report Abuse

So when North Korea conquered south till they are left with Busan area at sept 1950 also US fault ka lmao
If the north won all, we don’t have Oppa today

The new South Korean president knows better, who is the real foe that needs to be crushed

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/South-Korea-election/How-Yoon-may-shift-South-Korean-foreign-policy-5-things-to-know
Looks like Quad is going to add a new member

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 08:38 | Report Abuse

Ambassador Zhang emphasized that the accusations by the US and a few other countries are totally unfounded. China has introduced many times the real situation in Xinjiang. Right before the start of the Third Committee, the Chinese Mission and the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region together hosted a virtual event titled "Xinjiang is a Wonderful Land", and invited representatives of ordinary people from Xinjiang and foreign friend living there to tell their real stories. Xinjiang's door is always open. More than 1,600 diplomats, journalists and religious figures from over 100 countries have visited the region. What they saw, heard and told have shattered the lies by those western countries. The Chinese people's life is getting better day by day. The Chinese people are satisfied with and proud of such achievements, and those achievements are widely recognized and praised by people around the world. The happy lives and smiles of the Chinese people are the best manifestation of China's human rights situation. Those western countries may fool themselves, but they cannot fool the world.

Ambassador Zhang said that the attempt by the US and a few other countries to obstruct China's development is doomed to fail. China's development path is chosen by the Chinese people. Those countries are in no position to make choice for the Chinese people, let alone lecture China. China's progress is unstoppable. No one can deprive the Chinese people of their rights to live a happy life. The days when western countries could bully and oppress developing countries are long gone.

Ambassador Zhang pointed out that the US and a few other countries are desperately trying to cover up their own terrible human rights record. But the world sees it clearly. The US conducted genocide against American Indians. The US suppressed its own people to the point they have to yell "I can't breathe". The US ignored the deaths of over 700,000 nationals due to the pandemic. And the US stained its hands with the blood of hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians in the Middle East and Central Asia. The list of human rights violation by those countries goes on. Human rights are their cover-ups. Blaming other countries will not wipe off their own misdeeds, but only reveal their evil and hypocrisy.

Ambassador Zhang emphasized that the US and a few other countries, in the name of democracy, have been trying to get rid of those who dare to hold different views. But all their attempts will end in vain. Democracy is not a few countries' privilege, but a right enjoyed by people of all countries. The best democracy is to let people be the real master of the country, instead of making them the cannon fodder in political manipulation. The world is diverse. So are the approaches to realize democracy. Whether a country is democratic or not should be judged by its own people, not some individuals outside the country, let alone some individual western countries. Tragedies in countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have proven time and again that military intervention from the outside and the so-called democratic transformation entail nothing but harm to those countries affected, and to the ideal of democracy itself.

Ambassador Zhang said that the attempts by the US and a few other countries to politicize and manipulate human rights issues will find no support. People around the world are clear-eyed about the truth. More than 80 countries have made statements to support China. They opposed interference in other countries' internal affairs in the name of human rights, and called for following the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. History and reality have proven time and again that the finger-pointing, pressuring and bullying by countries like the US have lost them all the support from people around the world. They are on the opposite side of the international community.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 08:55 | Report Abuse

May I ask the Western countries are abandoning the afghanistan people to Taliban a genocide act and non returing of $7bn of Afghan funds held in US banks a human rights violation and day light robbery?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 09:42 | Report Abuse

By the way why UN human rights committee never raise a figure on genocide accusation commited by India in Jammu and Kashmir and human rights violation against lower caste.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 09:48 | Report Abuse

So Western free press and free country are free to tell lies and a democratic country is free to oppressed their minority like what happen in East Ukraine (war with Russia speaking ukraines since 2014)

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 11:28 | Report Abuse

Crimes of genocide have been defined by the 1951 UN Genocide Convention, which said that:

"
Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

1)Killing members of the group;
2)Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
3)Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
4)Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
5)Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

"
Under these definition, no, US abandoning the Afghan people to the Taliban is not considered genocide. Otherwise, even Malaysia would be committing genocide for not doing much to stop Myanmar's genocide of the Rohingya.

Previous US practices against the Native Americans (such as stealing the children of natives americans and giving them to white familly) are genocide because there was intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a particular ethnic group.

Similarly, China is also committing genocide for targeting people from specific ethnic and religious groups (the Uyghurs and other muslim minotiries), and causing all of the 5 crimes above towards them.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 11:41 | Report Abuse

And no, the non-returing of $7bn of Afghan funds held in US banks is not a human rights violation and day light robbery because:

1) They were initially restricted to prevent the Taliban's access to those funds. No one in the right mind would want the Taliban to have $7 billion. The Biden administration has already signed an executive order to get some of the funds released for humanitarion aid, but it's going to take some time design a path for the funds to reach the people of Afghanistan, while keeping them out of the hands of the Taliban.

2) Those funds belong to the ousted Afghan government. The Taliban have yet to be recognized as the new Afghan Government. The Taliban cannot just takeover a government by force and get access to the central bank's money.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 11:44 | Report Abuse

So is Western countries forced assimillation of minority a genocide?

By the way Malaysia got nothing to do on what happen in Myanmar and US has everything to do on what happen in Afghan

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 11:50 | Report Abuse

So is Western countries hate crime assault on minority because of race and religion a genocide?

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 11:50 | Report Abuse

With regard to India,

the OHCHR (the body that oversees all the UN human rights committee) released a report in 2019 decrying the lack of justice for past abuses such as killing and forced displacement of Hindu Kashmiri Pandits, enforced or involuntary disappearances, and alleged sexual violence by Indian security forces personnel. It expressed concern over excessive use of force during cordon and search operations, resulting in civilian deaths as well as new allegations of torture and deaths in custody.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 11:53 | Report Abuse

UN Human Rights committees have also criticized the US for war crime its military committed in the middle-east. It has also criticized the US for institutional racism in the US. There is no bias, they criticized the US because there was evidence of human rights abuses. The same way they criticize China because there is evidence of its abuses against the Uyghurs.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 11:55 | Report Abuse

Those funds belong to the Afghan people and should be return to Afghan people in humanitarian aid to feed the Afghan people that face starvation.

WFP is committed to stay and deliver food in Afghanistan


The Afghan people need our support now more than ever. Currently, 1 in 3 people are hungry and 2 million children are malnourished.

With drought, pandemic, and conflict, the food security situation will continue to worsen; and hunger will rise. 

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:02 | Report Abuse

The US made a lot of military decision that resulted in the death of innocent civilians. But dont forget they did it to eliminate the Talibans.

Also don't forget that the US helped established the Afghan government, paid for Afghanistan civil servants salary, paid for the schools, etc., all in an effort to help the Afghan build their country and defend themselves from the Taliban. Because of the US, Afghan women and girls can have jobs, go to school, and one even became a member of parliament. That's not genocide.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:05 | Report Abuse

Yes, those funds do belong to the Afghan people. That's why the US had to freeze it to make sure it doesn't fall to the Taliban. Do you want the Taliban to have $7 billion?

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:07 | Report Abuse

Forced assimilation like how they stole children from the natives and gave them to white families, yes that was genocide. The US even admitted to that. They've also stopped and apologized.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 12:23 | Report Abuse

The PRC officially recognizes 55 ethnic minority groups within China in addition to the Han majority.[1] As of 2010, the combined population of officially-recognized minority groups comprised 8.49% of the population of mainland China.

China give recognation and culture/language/religion rights to all 55 ethnic minority groups and stress homonies living together. That one up against Western forced assimilation.

By the way what US failed to acheive in Afghan, China success in rehabilitating the religion extremist in Xinjiang and etc.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:23 | Report Abuse

"is Western countries hate crime assault on minority because of race and religion a genocide?"

Depends, are their government and institutions actively allowing for the destruction of the minorities by actively supporting for the

1)Killing members of the group;
2)Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
3)Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
4)Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
5)Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The minorities in the US face a lot of discrimination. But discrimination alone does not mean genocide.

China's government on the hand take millions of Uyghurs and muslim minorites, put them into camps, sterilize them, beat them, rape them, take away their children, used them as forced labour, etc. That's obviously genocide.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 12:25 | Report Abuse

Forced assimilation is an involuntary process of cultural assimilation of religious or ethnic minority groups during which they are forced to adopt language, identity, norms, mores, customs, traditions, values, mentality, perceptions, way of life, and often religion and ideology of established and generally larger community belonging to dominant culture by government. Also enforcement of a new language in legislation, education, literature, worshiping counts as forced assimilation

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:29 | Report Abuse

UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims have stated that the CCP is committing human rights abuses against the Uyghurs. Sending millions of people of particular ethnic and religious groups into camps where they're abused is not harmony. Peace through oppression, that's what the CCP is all about.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:34 | Report Abuse

Yes, that is forced assimilation. What's your point? It says there in the UN Genocide convention that "Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group" (a form of forced assimilation) is an act of genocide. But not all form of forced assimilation is genocide.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:36 | Report Abuse

Yes, the US failed in its efforts in Afghanistan. But they did not commit genocide.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 12:40 | Report Abuse

Know what is the root cause of today Ukraine problems?

The pro Western Ukranians thought a free democratic elected government is free to oppressed the pro Russia Ukranians and forced assimilation of the minority Russia speaking Ukranians.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 12:43 | Report Abuse

So US sending million of it people to jail is considered as genocide.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 12:56 | Report Abuse

No that's not the root cause of Ukraine problems. The root cause is that Russia doesn't want Ukraine to exercise its sovereign right to join the EU and NATO. Russia wants to maintain its influence over Ukraine.

Forced assimilate into what? Ukrainians can speak Russian too. Russia's allegation that there are the Ukrainian government are neo-natzi that are bent on bullying Russians is ridiculous. The Ukrainian president is jewish.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 13:06 | Report Abuse

More than 1,600 diplomats, journalists and religious figures from over 100 countries have visited the region. What they saw, heard and told have shattered the lies by those western countries. The Chinese people's life is getting better day by day. The Chinese people are satisfied with and proud of such achievements, and those achievements are widely recognized and praised by people around the world. The happy lives and smiles of the Chinese people are the best manifestation of China's human rights situation. Those western countries may fool themselves, but they cannot fool the world

So who to beleive?

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:09 | Report Abuse

Are they sending them to jail without cause, subjecting them to forced sterilization and such? Nope. They're there because they have committed crimes, mainly as a result of their unfavorable circumstances (grew up in poor neighborhood, lack of access to opportunities, not much choice besides resorting to committing crimes, etc.). There is discimination in the US that makes it more likely for minorities to end up in jail. But discrimination alone does not constitute genocide. White people end up in US jail too.

China on the other hand, targets specificially Uyghurs and muslim minorities to send to those camps. And they're there without due cause. The CCP says they're terrorist. more than a million Uyghurs are terrorist? That would mean that China has more terrorist than ISIS, which is ridiculous. In those camps, they're subjected to rape, killing, force sterilization, beating, etc. That's genocide.

You can't just throw the word genocide around. The UN already defined it, don't make your own definition. If China simply did not give the Uyghurs rights such labour rights, rights to housing, rights to the legal system, that would be a human rights violation. But it wouldn't called genocide. But no, the CCP put millions of people of particular ethnic/religious groups into camps and sterilized them, that's obviousy genocide.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:12 | Report Abuse

Diplomatic envoys have their own country's interest to take care of. They wouldn't go to China and shout genocide. Otherwise China will hurt their country's economy. Why would you trust them?

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:12 | Report Abuse

Chinese people life have got better. But not the Uyghurs life.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:13 | Report Abuse

It's not just western countries, but UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims have stated that the CCP is committing human rights abuses against the Uyghurs.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:14 | Report Abuse

Motive? To obtain "harmony" through oppression.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:18 | Report Abuse

Yes, there is love and compassion in all countries. It's not the Chinese people who are conducting genocide. But the CCP dictator government who went so far as to censor information given by UN human rights committee, University researchers, International Tribunals, Amnesty international, Satellite photos, and even hundreds of statements from Uyghur victims, so that the Chinese people will not revolt to fight against this injustice committed by their government.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:20 | Report Abuse

Control and oppress, The CCP decides what the Chinese people can read/write/hear/say so that it will remain in power and have absolute control over the PRC.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:20 | Report Abuse

The OHCHR is not a tiny group.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:20 | Report Abuse

Amnesty international is not a tiny group.

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:24 | Report Abuse

We are not in China. Information is freely available. Shouting western lies/propaganda doesn't work here. The evidence is clear, China is committing genocide.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-03-12 13:32 | Report Abuse

https://youtu.be/-qocmz37_Zo

Posted by Cupcakes69 > 2022-03-12 13:56 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8