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10 comment(s). Last comment by alenac 2023-08-14 11:26

Income

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Posted by Income > 2023-08-13 11:47 | Report Abuse

PN made inroads in the elections, with the coalition winning 11 seats in Penang, 22 in Selangor, and five in Negeri Sembilan. The coalition also denied PH-BN a two-thirds majority in Selangor.

How in GE16 Green Wave coming???

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2023-08-14 09:12 | Report Abuse

to me green wave is everybody planting a tree to make mother earth more green

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-08-14 09:31 | Report Abuse

The green wave is different. It drives red to Bursa, red eye for jealousy and handout demand, as well as red to the soil with bauxite and deforestation.

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2023-08-14 09:49 | Report Abuse

I feel that argument that voting went on racial lines need to analysised in detail..Let us not overlook the fact that the population of just selangor is much, much more than the population of the 3 states that PN had won combined..... If you look at the population make-up, you will be surprised to note that most of the state constituencies in Selangor has a majority malay population. In NS, almost all the constituencies have a Malay majority. Even in Penang, there are a few constituencies with majority Malay population. The point is unless we know how the voting went through out the six states, it may not be statistically proper to make sweeping statements of how a particular community voted. My own gut feeling is there are differences in perception towards the govt based on regions and political/religious influence with states. A factor in the PM's favour he is very new in office and the impact of his policies may take some time to seriously impact the voting pattern.. We have to wait and see..

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2023-08-14 09:51 | Report Abuse

...the political/religious influence within states....

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2023-08-14 10:16 | Report Abuse

I feel in a democratic country we should not overly "demonize" the political choices of certain groups.. The challengue is to convince and win them over... The PM has been in office for less than a year..and being new, I am sure the govt would have taken time to settle in as well. Let us see what he can do... Let us also not overlook the fact the voter turnout was low..So the people who actually voted relative to the population must be very low.... especially in the PN states...Another point, the combined population of the three PH won states is roughly 10.2 mil while that of the other three is 5.25 mil...Selangor alone has a population of roughly 7.21 mil....Do you see the diparity and the difficulty in making comparisons?

alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2023-08-14 10:19 | Report Abuse

The reason why positive issues based on integrity, transparency and good governance are ignored and voters choose populism instead. We had seen that before during the incarceration of Najib and his court cases, despite their negativity, where his popularity bought Bersatu losses in Malacca & Johor state elections.
However, any pronounced shift in voters' sentiments toward good governance and positive values can only happen if there are significant shifts in what voters perceived as "discriminative values" whether real or not that led them to vote for populism.

“The continued rise of the green wave is an expected push-back against multiracialism and multiculturalism.

“This push-back will continue until the majority of Malaysians learn that ethno-nationalism is dangerous and leads to fragmentation of our society.

“The same issue is faced in many parts of the world as people seek quick answers to problems of inequality and marginalisation,” said Leong.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/08/14/green-wave-will-lead-to-more-racial-divisions-in-the-nation

alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2023-08-14 10:28 | Report Abuse


Let us wait and observe how the PHBN-led government is going to resolve the issue of a certain section of voters dissatisfied with them. Anwar has 2 years to do that before another state election is due.
Posted by Starship2 > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse

I feel in a democratic country we should not overly "demonize" the political choices of certain groups.. The challengue is to convince and win them over... The PM has been in office for less than a year..and being new, I am sure the govt would have taken time to settle in as well. Let us see what he can do... Let us also not overlook the fact the voter turnout was low..So the people who actually voted relative to the population must be very low.... especially in the PN states...Another point, the combined population of the three PH-won states is roughly 10.2 mil while that of the other three is 5.25 mil...Selangor alone has a population of roughly 7.21 mil....Do you see the diparity and the difficulty in making comparisons?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2023-08-14 10:39 | Report Abuse

Moo is just trying to save his own skin from the corruption cases he is charged with in court.

He has nothing to offer except playing up race and religion divisive issue to pull down unity government.

alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2023-08-14 11:26 | Report Abuse

Precisely the point, Moo will play the victim of political persecution by the Anwar government because he is leading the opposition. Sympathy will be with him. The Malay support for underdogs has always been recorded since Anwar's reformasi days. Populism not withstanding.

Posted by Sslee > 41 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Moo is just trying to save his own skin from the corruption cases he is charged with in court.

He has nothing to offer except playing up race and religion divisive issue to pull down unity government.

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