One thing for sure, yeoh tiong lay held a big share in ytl and kept it at 50% which let's you know how to build generational wealth.
>>>>> xiaoeh
Dear Philip i'm curious to know how value investors react to big cap counters like YTL/YTLP from its IPO till today? does value investor bought YTL/YTLP from its IPO price and hold until today?
I think I would rather characterize myself as a businessman. You buy something with the expectation of long term growth runway in a company and you hold on for the ride until the company dynamics changes(serba) or until it hits terminal value (speedmart, diy). Take for example SDS, I am buying for their long term growth into peninsular and plan to sell out once they start expanding to east Malaysia. For pchem the question I asked myself was is the revenue reduced due to company fundamentals? No. Is the earnings reduced due to temporary factors? Yes. So once market recovers and price go up I will still have a company that has 9 billion in cash, and running well and worth every penny. Three difference between me and contrarian and sslee is that majority of my networth is in stocks. Unlike them I no longer have a day job. So the big question is first how safe is the stock where I put my money in firstly, and secondly if I sell pchem how much fees do I pay, and what can I buy with the money? More important how much risk do I have to bear if I buy another stock for the long term.
There is no such thing as value investor, as everyone is looking for value. The most important thing is risk control and how safe your money is and how safe the investment is when you add margin into the mix. Fyi, a lot of my investments turned around when I added margin which is extra risk if the stock goes south. >>>>> xiaoeh
i would use pure value investor and not so pure value investor to name TheContrarian sifu and Philip sifu
TheContrarian sifu to be categorize to not so pure value investor where he buys value company and sell when mkt not in his favor and buy back
Philip sifu to be categorize pure value investor where he buys value company and hold never sell when mkt not in his favor instead, he buys more when mkt not in his favor.
Hoho PureBullShittt ke … as he said posted a Top Glove thread on 7/12/2020 that he warned ppl on Glove rally , but I read the thread is Opposite ( promoting Glove rally) !🤔
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Posted by PureBULL ... > 17 hours ago | Report Abuse msia is poor on GWS = warren B will fail too n badly. 2 choices: continue ur only way to hold ur choice stocks that u know best or to Play what mr mkt wants to play UP,,,
Hoho as usual Konartist sslleee like to recycled my facts n figures and words …
I am calling him half past 6 Guru after he owned claimed FA n TA Guru :
1.) said going to see 5 waves but didn’t know the waves name is EW .
Konartist sslleee shouting Waves 2 is coming so happily, thinking that is going Up trend but instead Waves 2 is going Downtrend!🤔
2.) even did not understand Labour Expenses n Capex ..
3.) What is Current Ratio ? ( to gauge working capital ratio within a year ).
4.) What is Corporate Structure ? ( To understand the Corporate group of companies, including subsidiary n associates… and to plan corporate taxes ) .
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PS: Don't be like Mike-tikus not even know jaks got cash flow problems and die die also must promote jak with his half past six facts and figures every forum he go for the past one and a half year.
@YY, My carrer path: 1986-1991 SAB Production Executive - Production Engineer 1991-1996 Tioxide Shift Manager 1996-2001 SAB Engineering Manager - Business Development Manager 2001- now PT MM General Manager
For me do not stay too long at your comfort zone, dare to venture outside your comfort zone and never ending life long learning to be successful. You can learn all the technical knowledge from the book or hand on. But on how to managed people and how to handle owner boss you need to learn hand on.
As of palm oil mill most likely Philip can tell you something as if I am not mistaken Philip work in palm oil mill before and he met the QL boss while working in palm oil mill.
This is one of the few good advise that I agree on with you. In terms of investing/trading, exciting does not necessarily equal profitable.
>>>>>> For me do not stay too long at your comfort zone, dare to venture outside your comfort zone and never ending life long learning to be successful. You can learn all the technical knowledge from the book or hand on. But on how to managed people and how to handle owner boss you need to learn hand on.
Hoho really laugh live me le , Konartist sslleee said want to challenge ethical Sifu 3iii le :
A) I asked Konartist sslleee during he is promoting Jtiasa :
1.) What is Indonesia CPO export ban status?
2.) What is Indonesia Biodiesel program progress n status?
His reply is just want to make money !🤣👍👏
I asked him also what is his selection criteria for Growth n Dividend stock ? He just bla bla bla showing his half past 6 same as Corporate Structure in Insas forum !🤣🤔
Thanks SsLee for your kind guidance. I'm just perplexed as to why managing staff has to be by means of scolding when a more courteous way is deemed inadequate - on the other hand you've to learn from these old timers (operators/supervisors) when you first join in. Now that you are few months into the job, it doesn;t feel right to shout/scold or demand these very people to do things u want immediately. Granted some RSPO/MSPO requirements may be urgent, at least give them time to do the needful or remind them in a day or two. Wondering if it is my problem or my superior's impatience. Always thought that respect got to be earned rather than demanded. Only 7 months in this work already wondering if it is wrong line for me!
Hoho another Konartist sslleee gang surfaced … blower Pang7 younger siblings.. Pang7 argued with OTB whom promoted YTLpower 1st …. YTLpower in OTB i3 competition list 2024 n promoted at RM 1.10 …
> 👉 No Income No Money No Issue , No Dignity No Integrity No responsibility until Income posted Wifey ran away with DeMusang, what a Shameless 👉 Lapsap Pokkai KonIncome…
MCyc Tikus JohnChee,u shameless liar. Why u No explain your point 1, point 2, point3, & point 4 & point 5? Hahaha Liar like Orangtua shamless kiddy brain or brainlesz? Don't involve my bro pang , he is sinless here.
I was facing the same problems when I first start up my career as young production executive and later production engineer where managing people(subordinates and superiors) were the biggest problems rather than solving engineering problems.
Just try to mix in, learnt as much as you can and then teach everyone the tecnical know how, know what and your expectation of what you considered as good performance.
When you have done all these then prepared and ready yourself for a bigger job and job responsibility the market can offer.
Mcyc aka Jong Chee can't work together with anyone。Very obvious in i3 Mcyc Jong Chee likes enemies more than frenz。Bo-do sombong attitude= M cyc Jong chee。
Hoho really laugh live me lo … why yr elder sibling Blower Pang7 shy away from Armada on 2019 , after he asked me twice on September n December 2019 window dressing TP !
Hoho Konartist sslleee gang in Bplant ke .. member since 2018 … as usual directing wayang to setup n trap someone..
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Mine also around same date. Queried with registrar on payment within 10 days, was told bursa don't allow LTAT to access bank details of shareholders. So they are going to courier cheques on 29/12/23
Hoho the funniest clown own claimed FA n TA Guru ( half past 6 Guru ) Konartist sslleee intend to challenge ethical Sifu 3iii , as 3iii posted in Jtiasa preferred KimLoong …. Philip posted Inno …. Konartist sslleee posted Jtiasa .
👉👉Note : Konartist sslleee with gang did setup a ROI Competition Trap on June 2023 ( 1 year period) during Insas price is at Low range ard RM 0.80 n invited Sifu Sifu to participate !
👉 See the 3 stock price chart over 18 years !
> 3 stocks FA n 5 years DY :
1.) Kimloong:
Current Ratio 3.44 Debt-Equity (DE) Ratio 0.32 FCF Yield 8.19 % p Revenue QoQ 4.52 % Revenue YoY 5.27% Profit QoQ -20.22 % Profit YoY -8.88 % Profit Margin (Sector Median: 9.8) 10.06 % ROE (ROIC: 16.4) 17.08 % Dividend Per Share (DPS) 13.0 sen Dividend Yield (DY) 5.46 %
Johnchew5 ??? What have I done to u? Obviously u don't have a life and has a monkey on ur back. If u are lonely do join an organisation to make urself useful. Don't sit in front of ur device/PC and make a fool of urself picking on just anyone. Unlike u I have a future to look forward to after joining the workforce upon mu Uni days.
Aiyoyo Mike-tikus, no friend, no family, no job, no money and everyday lepak in i3 cari gaduh.
Still copy and paste data from some pasar malam source and never check the validity and reliability of data, hence no wonder trapped inside jaks for a year and half already.
By the way when you take small trading position for free bintang beer sometime it misfire then you need to wait long enough for your free bintang beer. No harm done.
SCIB is one of my trading stock and I do not need to go every forum to promote it
Jayatiasa is my main stock and on and off I do promote it at jayatiasa forum.
Hoho as usual Konartist sslleee gang best in Pretending , Twisting , setup Trap .
I had posted Point 1 to Point 4 case study ( posted in Hengyuan n Petronm forum during Konartist sslleee asked me , n latest in YTLpower forum ) ….Income twisted to Point 1 to Point 5 … Beware blower Pang7 sibling Income !
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MCyc Tikus AKA Jongchee, u are talking rubbish。It's better to tell your point 1 to point 5 charting。Boleh?
Hoho finally Konartist sslleee whom directed the Wayang in Netx and Insas with Stockraider is surfaced !
Partially Repost :
Hoho the funniest clown own claimed FA n TA Guru ( half past 6 Guru ) Konartist sslleee intend to challenge ethical Sifu 3iii , as 3iii posted in Jtiasa preferred KimLoong …. Philip posted Inno …. Konartist sslleee posted Jtiasa .
👉👉Note : Konartist sslleee with gang did setup a ROI Competition “ Trap “ on June 2023 ( 1 year period) during Insas price is at Low range ard RM 0.80 n invited Sifu Sifu to participate !
Hoho why Konartist sslleee repeatedly shouting in Jtiasa with TP over 52w H RM 1.53 … and 1st time Konartist sslleee n his gang tried many ways to prevent me posting in Jtiasa forum since he approached me 1st in Netx on 2020 !
Hoho why so desperately promoted SCIB with TP RM 1.00 by early 2025… partner with i3lurkker whom promoting SCIB half way changed name to Balian .. so desperately until said if not made 600 % profit in 12 months ( ard RM 2.60 ) by early 2025 , will become wwooofff wow !🤣🤔
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By the way when you take small trading position for free bintang beer sometime it misfire then you need to wait long enough for your free bintang beer. No harm done.
SCIB is one of my trading stock and I do not need to go every forum to promote it
Jayatiasa is my main stock and on and off I do promote it at jayatiasa forum.
Yet, these major GLICs' top executives often fall within a total remuneration range of MYR 5-10 million per annum, depending on organization size and specific roles. And they go around fly around on company - not paying a single cent on petrol. The majority of B40 & M40 bodoh.
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Posted by Philip ( buy what you understand) > 1 day ago | Report Abuse
One thing for sure, yeoh tiong lay held a big share in ytl and kept it at 50% which let's you know how to build generational wealth.
>>>>>
xiaoeh
Dear Philip
i'm curious to know how value investors react to big cap counters like YTL/YTLP from its IPO till today?
does value investor bought YTL/YTLP from its IPO price and hold until today?