NOTION VTEC BHD

KLSE (MYR): NOTION (0083)

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Last Price

0.92

Today's Change

0.00 (0.00%)

Day's Change

0.89 - 0.945

Trading Volume

11,245,200


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16,539 comment(s). Last comment by titan3322 6 hours ago

ilovehits

3,955 posts

Posted by ilovehits > 2017-10-21 22:02 | Report Abuse

I see so many people if NOTION limit down.

ilovehits

3,955 posts

Posted by ilovehits > 2017-10-21 22:03 | Report Abuse

Don't like that. People cry no tears already.

bear_hunt

39 posts

Posted by bear_hunt > 2017-10-21 22:03 | Report Abuse

30 sen safest?

ttgipoh

262 posts

Posted by ttgipoh > 2017-10-21 22:04 | Report Abuse

flood in thailand few yrs ago, now fire, claims insurance better than
business.
bad lucker or lousy mgt?

ttgipoh

262 posts

Posted by ttgipoh > 2017-10-21 22:10 | Report Abuse

who are the smart cookies to sell down in millions b4 suspension?
insiders?
who knows the damage of 500 cnc b4 suspension?
who knows lost of 9 mths or longer productions earlier?

ttgipoh

262 posts

Posted by ttgipoh > 2017-10-21 22:15 | Report Abuse

ppl holds at 1.20 level i pity, feeling naked now and cheated.

mancingbursa

4,268 posts

Posted by mancingbursa > 2017-10-21 22:24 | Report Abuse

A fire broke out at Notion VTec Bhd's main manufacturing plant in Klang at about 2pm today, which has affected its wholly-owned subsidiaries — Kaiten Precision Sdn Bhd, Notion Venture Sdn Bhd, and Autic Mekki Sdn Bhd.

The company has assured that all assets “are adequately covered by insurance”, and that sufficient insurance coverage has been taken for consequential business loss. The full financial and operational impact as well as consequences of the incident will be announced later, it added.

alibabacoming

3,466 posts

Posted by alibabacoming > 2017-10-21 22:29 | Report Abuse

seems like good management, do the best for shareholders.

newbie92

418 posts

Posted by newbie92 > 2017-10-21 22:30 | Report Abuse

Big boy alr run on friday, monday is retailer turn?

Stock Kingdom

1,005 posts

Posted by Stock Kingdom > 2017-10-21 22:32 | Report Abuse

Top gloves has 29 factories.....

alibabacoming

3,466 posts

Posted by alibabacoming > 2017-10-21 22:32 | Report Abuse

Big boy how to run if drop sharply?

Uncle_Lim

1,755 posts

Posted by Uncle_Lim > 2017-10-21 22:52 | Report Abuse

monday sure up liao..insurance covers double amount 300millions

Alex Foo

12,594 posts

Posted by Alex Foo > 2017-10-21 23:01 | Report Abuse

don't be a hero. you want burn money also got other ways. why must throw into fire?

Syndicates

877 posts

Posted by Syndicates > 2017-10-21 23:16 | Report Abuse

PDT will buy back share in the morning as the trading is halted half way.

Roxyman

9 posts

Posted by Roxyman > 2017-10-21 23:24 | Report Abuse

No one can guess the stock market, miracles often appear

Victory99

405 posts

Posted by Victory99 > 2017-10-21 23:32 | Report Abuse

Two ways to stabilise the share price.First company buy back their own shares heavily. Second, privatise it. Small fish won't throw their shares on Monday because their cost is high. Big fish had thrown their shares on Friday at higher price. Monday possibly will be technically rebound. I guess can be close at 83 cents.

juinming0304

1,161 posts

Posted by juinming0304 > 2017-10-21 23:36 | Report Abuse

victory view is very silly and unthinkable.

juinming0304

1,161 posts

Posted by juinming0304 > 2017-10-21 23:37 | Report Abuse

key in buy 100 lot @50c

Sultan763

74 posts

Posted by Sultan763 > 2017-10-22 00:25 | Report Abuse

Juin, I feel your idea is the silly one...victor explained a way of thinking....he said ways to stabilize, he didn’t say what will happen...the silly part you q to buy 50c , if drop more then better wait till stabilized then buy... very silly to predict the future and choose price...might drop to 10c then how...you loose simply?

einvest88

416 posts

Posted by einvest88 > 2017-10-22 00:59 | Report Abuse

friend work in top ins co estimate 2nd time cover max is only 50%...gd luck everyone.

einvest88

416 posts

Posted by einvest88 > 2017-10-22 01:00 | Report Abuse

AKNTECH kaput also because of fire decade ago

windcloud

1,393 posts

Posted by windcloud > 2017-10-22 01:57 | Report Abuse

2012 Dec fire incident damaged 100 CNC machines with insurance compensation more than 30 m. Within year 2013 or even after results turn bad except insurance claimed ...... 2017 last few days ago fire incident damaged 500 CNC machines this time really serious this might affect more than 50% revenue and customer might cancel orders and switch to other vendors customer relationship might be affected and time to regain confidence .... restore the operation might even takes time and cost including order and import machine .... go thru all necessary audit and certificate process ..... even fire consequential loss insurance can only cover 60 to 70 percent of gross profit as 2nd time claim and this might ended up with net losses in following qtrs
...

For share price .... this might be continue downward trend until stabilise at certain price level .... low can be lower again .... might have a rebound during this downtrend ...... dont want to say how long it will go ..... anyway ..... 500 machines damages is not a small issues in terms with customer relationship in delivery schedule, re arrange with other subcon to cover work also increase costs 9 months time and costs for reinstate back to original condition

Just nonsense sharing ......

Uncle_Lim

1,755 posts

Posted by Uncle_Lim > 2017-10-22 02:18 | Report Abuse

monday 0.83

Posted by shareinvestor88 > 2017-10-22 02:55 | Report Abuse

Sell sell gap down 30-40c

kakijudi

1,086 posts

Posted by kakijudi > 2017-10-22 03:45 | Report Abuse

I remember akntech. Previously broker keep promoting. Promote until die. Lol

kakijudi

1,086 posts

Posted by kakijudi > 2017-10-22 03:47 | Report Abuse

Sorry uncle lim. rip. See u at 50c or lower

ming

2,081 posts

Posted by ming > 2017-10-22 05:49 | Report Abuse

Buy 70 cent, 1 year later up back 1.00 = 43% p.a
Buy 60 cent, 1 year later up back 1.00 = 67% p.a
Buy 50 cent, 1 year later up back 1.00 = 100% p.a

Buy 70 cent, 2 year later up back 1.00 = 21% p.a
Buy 60 cent, 2 year later up back 1.00 = 33% p.a
Buy 50 cent, 2 year later up back 1.00 = 50% p.a

Net cash company; dividend payable; got insurance cover; other factory still running

What u need jz the time..

Apa lu mau lagi

leechen88

292 posts

Posted by leechen88 > 2017-10-22 06:34 | Report Abuse

Q 41 sen loh / 1 sen b4 limit down

Ivan10

71 posts

Posted by Ivan10 > 2017-10-22 06:42 | Report Abuse

i read someone posted at fb saying that : " bad news are good news"...
it just such a joke...although the company can claim for insurance on machinery, so what about production>??
when there is no production, where is the revenue come from?
I personally think that Notion will drop to RM0.3- RM0.4 range....

Skng Keong

1,256 posts

Posted by Skng Keong > 2017-10-22 06:59 | Report Abuse

Look c frist wait until Nov if want to buy...

Posted by Investor 9999 > 2017-10-22 07:33 | Report Abuse

The Co had announced that it is adequately insured for the building, and plant and equipment, and consequential loss, it mean :

Under consequential loss coverage you can insure for a determined period (6 to 18 or longer per industry specific) for protection of:

Loss in gross profit for no production due to disruption and no sales arising after fire (sales would depend on your historical sales and budgeted or forecast sales). Loss in gross profit (sales minus all direct cost)

Payment of salaries and wages on Co's payroll basis ( rational being if u are not manufacturing or doing business, u still need to maintain ur workforce while rebuilding ur building and getting plant ready)

The consequential loss is to protect and maintain the profit as if the Co is operating as like there is no fire. The the objective is to maintain similar profit even if u are not doing business. However the Co has to endeavour to restore back its operation at earliest possible time.

Even if u do rent a new premises, u are covered for the increase in cost of doing business. It is too details for me to elaborate.

The Co got to endeavour to take actions to minimise the claim. Example by sub contracting it out (provided the Contractor is a approved qualified vendor by Notion customers) in this case Notion is transferring it to other subsidiaries. The higher cost of sub con is also covered in the gross profit protection. Provided by the action of sub con does not result in Insurance Co paying more. If more Insurance Co will say u may as well do nothing.

Thus do not panic and throw your shares, just look at Comfort, Karyon, CCK and other Co that had fire and ultimately claim back the sum covered. The claim may take 6 to 9 months to resolve.

The Co could also use this claim amount to revamp its operation and production process to buy newer CNC and LATH machines to improve its efficiencies. To me it is a short term pain and long term gain.

cooling

1,676 posts

Posted by cooling > 2017-10-22 07:40 | Report Abuse

customers cannot wait to get parts.....loss of business and customers can never be insured....also insurance have many hidden clauses and will not be able to claim in full amount....only equipments can be claimed in full.....prospects all gone....9 months is a long time and during commissioning period...customers all gone to other competitors

cooling

1,676 posts

Posted by cooling > 2017-10-22 07:42 | Report Abuse

only asset is adequately covered by insurance...read carefully...

Skng Keong

1,256 posts

Posted by Skng Keong > 2017-10-22 07:54 | Report Abuse

Malaysia market is not good, once the company is in bad time is very hard to recover. US market is over bought anytime heavy profit taking might happen.. Just be careful not only this counter..

Posted by shareinvestor88 > 2017-10-22 08:36 | Report Abuse

Dear investor 9999 , the short term pain can be painful. I think will drop next week asx more sellers emerged. Looking at 30-40c range.
My 2c opinion. TAYOR.

Posted by shareinvestor88 > 2017-10-22 08:51 | Report Abuse

Dear Ming the fire n damage has crippled the production n revenue. Yes the company can build again. But mean time many will sell the stock.
Iexpect gap down to 30-40c next week

Roxyman

9 posts

Posted by Roxyman > 2017-10-22 11:04 | Report Abuse

The time is near,tomorrow will know the answer

kevinchong

646 posts

Posted by kevinchong > 2017-10-22 11:31 | Report Abuse

I say tomorrow will back 0.800

Ahead1268

768 posts

Posted by Ahead1268 > 2017-10-22 11:38 | Report Abuse

The safer to bet if morning limit down at 0.40 then look for afternoon session to catch the lowest point possible. I see the forum many say 0.30 then probably oversold position so chance will bouncing back right!

jack2

1,359 posts

Posted by jack2 > 2017-10-22 11:41 | Report Abuse

so much speculation on the downside of the business and price
the company if have any PR shud clarify instead of let speculation went wild
one poor PR job

ttgipoh

262 posts

Posted by ttgipoh > 2017-10-22 11:47 | Report Abuse

right poor PR like Lctitan

Traderkkk

148 posts

Posted by Traderkkk > 2017-10-22 12:01 | Report Abuse

It's down trend gonna b long term ... unless any good news or factor .

Or this is the song "killing me softly"

Uncle_Lim

1,755 posts

Posted by Uncle_Lim > 2017-10-22 12:58 | Report Abuse

talk so much here no use. you all intraday and contra player can avoid this counter.

WVB 68

163 posts

Posted by WVB 68 > 2017-10-22 14:07 | Report Abuse

Buy buy buy ! Internal ppl said only 150 units CNC destroyed . But they need move others plant and hv to stop production 2 months

WM Niaga

1,406 posts

Posted by WM Niaga > 2017-10-22 14:14 | Report Abuse

ok2 bro wvb....will buy tomoro. tq

yorkyork

2,770 posts

Posted by yorkyork > 2017-10-22 14:16 | Report Abuse

Remaining machines 24hours operate.

yorkyork

2,770 posts

Posted by yorkyork > 2017-10-22 14:17 | Report Abuse

WVB 68 150units, company want claim 500units?

WVB 68

163 posts

Posted by WVB 68 > 2017-10-22 14:23 | Report Abuse

500units in d building , only 150 units serious damaged . News from machine supplier . Many machine supplier already standby supply machine to Nvtec , machine not a big issue , and they hv 2 months stock , enough time set up new line for new production in 2 months

WVB 68

163 posts

Posted by WVB 68 > 2017-10-22 14:25 | Report Abuse

And internal ppl said 500 units machine only 40% machine use , d rest sleeping. So dun panic their output all from 500 units machine

noorgreen

660 posts

Posted by noorgreen > 2017-10-22 15:01 | Report Abuse

WVB 68 thank you for the positive news :)

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