Posted by brian3381 > 2022-05-28 22:01 | Report Abuse

If a company's profit so easy for u to predict. Wat is the use of an acountant? Then all those call sifu oredi richer than waren. No need to write story here.

Posted by brian3381 > 2022-05-28 22:02 | Report Abuse

Yup. Tis zzzz can suck probabilty's diiick oredi. Yummy right?

Posted by OTB > 2022-05-28 22:02 | Report Abuse

brian3381 = gemfinder

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Posted by OTB > 2022-05-28 22:05 | Report Abuse

All above information is for sharing only.
Do your homework and try to project PAT yourself.
I am also not sure that my calculation is accurate.

But I am very sure that I am richer than brian3381 or gemfinder.
I made more money than him in share investment in KLSE.
Thank you.

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Posted by brian3381 > 2022-05-28 22:12 | Report Abuse

Wat good report? I din even wan to waste time to read

Posted by brian3381 > 2022-05-28 22:14 | Report Abuse

How is ur dps jaks? Ur recomemdation?

Posted by OTB > 2022-05-28 22:15 | Report Abuse

I conduct my training course.
Many of my students are qualified accountants, doctors, lawyers and company directors.
I told them I feel very shy to teach them.
They still respect me as their teachers.

Posted by brian3381 > 2022-05-28 22:15 | Report Abuse

Yala. Ask waren bufet b yuor sudent

Posted by OTB > 2022-05-28 22:21 | Report Abuse

brian3381 = gemfinder
gemfinder's account in I3 is suspended because of his uncalled personal attack remarks.

A good person, his account in I3 cannot be suspended.

Posted by subwayzzz > 2022-05-28 22:28 | Report Abuse

Good

Posted by subwayzzz > 2022-05-28 22:28 | Report Abuse

More accounts suspended the better

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-28 22:34 | Report Abuse

Probability seem very confident on Q2 and may be Q3 result.
I will top up C24.

Type:CALL WARRANTS
Sector:ENERGY
Listing Date:Apr 11, 2022
Maturity Date:Jan 27, 2023
Issue Size:40,000,000
Exercise Price:MYR 4.15
Ratio:10:1
Underlying Stock:HENGYUAN
Avg Volume (4 weeks):7,198,306
4 Weeks Range:0.215 - 0.375
52 Weeks Range:0.075 - 0.375

Posted by klsejeff88 > 2022-05-28 23:12 | Report Abuse

SSLEE - good choice , better than buying the lousy Insas

Posted by blackgold77 > 2022-05-28 23:40 | Report Abuse

Monday the final day for vwap settlement C22, looking forward to add if red

Posted by GrowthCapitalist > 2022-05-29 00:10 | Report Abuse

Thanks OTB for the clarification and totally appreciate it very much!

Well, Brian, it's not about you are holding CFA, FRM or an accountant. This is what we call doing research before buying something. I have no idea what up between both of you but i appreciate every details from this forum.

Well, as for this stock, crack spread is very important. As investor in refining stock, if you don't know crack spread means then you are out of game. It's no longer a crude oil game but knowing the margin of crack spread. Sometime, crude oil maybe pricy but if the demand in gasoline and fuel oil isn't there the margin will not good at all. That's why we need to know the collateral of 3:2:1 calculation.

On the other hand, now is the best time of all as we are shortage of refined gas so it's a good thing. Next, due to the Ukraine and Russian tension everything is favorable to this stock. Take a look on XLE etf soaring high as if no next day! Plus, soon there gonna be hurricane and another shortage coming by.

Ultimately, it is the most important yardsticks through which refinery companies are evaluated. Let's have more knowledge spread among our community. I'm sure you do a simple EPS calculation and check the fair value every quater to ensure you don't fall back or get losses from your investment.

Cheers guy! Really looking forward for another one more run at least!

Posted by smartly > 2022-05-29 00:39 | Report Abuse

Posted by blackgold77 > 44 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Monday the final day for vwap settlement C22, looking forward to add if red
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you sure Monday is final day for c22 ?

Posted by smartly > 2022-05-29 00:42 | Report Abuse

@sslee, good choice for c24

Posted by blackgold77 > 2022-05-29 00:50 | Report Abuse

@smartly
prove me wrong.

Posted by harold8990 > 2022-05-29 03:03 | Report Abuse

How about the new c27?

Posted by VTrade > 2022-05-29 03:17 | Report Abuse

Blackgold no wrong
Just not so correct.
Yes final suspension is 30May

Posted by VTrade > 2022-05-29 03:32 | Report Abuse

C27 panjang lagi
execise pun kena 发发灵

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 07:03 | Report Abuse

If you are damn sure of explosive Q2 result then C25 is the one for you.

Type:CALL WARRANTS
Sector:ENERGY
Listing Date:Apr 22, 2022
Maturity Date:Oct 31, 2022
Issue Size:150,000,000
Exercise Price:MYR 4.30
Ratio:4 : 1
Underlying Stock:HENGYUAN
Avg Volume (4 weeks):2,704,087
4 Weeks Range:0.46 - 0.865
52 Weeks Range:0.145 - 0.865

If q2 explosive result and propel Hengyuan to RM14.30 by Sept then each C25 should worth (14.30- 4.30)/4 = RM 2.50
And C24 should worth (14.30 -4.15)/10 =RM 1.015.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 07:09 | Report Abuse

Eagerly waiting for q1 result to guide me which Call warrants to bet on.

Posted by CharlesT > 2022-05-29 07:37 | Report Abuse

Sslee seems very active in CW now....welcome to the Casino

Posted by cactus81 > 2022-05-29 08:07 | Report Abuse

Can consider w26

Posted by cactus81 > 2022-05-29 08:09 | Report Abuse

Cw26
Exp 3 April 2023
Price 4.88
Ratio 5:1

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 09:14 | Report Abuse

Good morning CharlesT,
When your investment did not give you the desire return hence need to learn how to gamble in Casino Bursa.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 09:19 | Report Abuse

By the way Insas market cap is now below its net cash.

Posted by klee > 2022-05-29 09:35 | Report Abuse

Buy insas how to have desired return?hahaha
Stocks no one wanna push how to rise?

Posted by klee > 2022-05-29 09:38 | Report Abuse

Market cap has always been a nonsense indicator.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 09:51 | Report Abuse

Share market is a voting machine, so I vote for Hengyuan base on Q2 crack spread of USD 26/barrel. How about you?

Posted by CharlesT > 2022-05-29 09:57 | Report Abuse

C24 n c25 r the better bets...good luck

Posted by CharlesT > 2022-05-29 10:00 | Report Abuse

After glove saga n sad endings for many so called long term value investors during 2021/2022, i doubt Heng Yuan 2.0 will be that sexy like Heng Yuan 1.0

Anyway still hv trading opportunity

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 10:05 | Report Abuse

CharlesT,
Not even china can build an oil refinery in 6 months time like how china build a glove factory in 6 months time that produce billions of glove.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-05-29 10:29 | Report Abuse

CharlesT,
I just gamble for my pocket money. Thanks for the advise.
My big holding is still Insas and Bplant.

Posted by blackgold77 > 2022-05-29 11:18 | Report Abuse

the thing about CW is should follow what apple said.. cannot be greedy, once it doubles or so, take profit. because you saw what happens to C22.

otherwise, like myself, i will just hold the mother shares for long term win

Posted by 888STOCK888 > 2022-05-29 11:32 | Report Abuse

Follow apple said will bring you to Holland....
I bought C22 at 0.015 and sold at 0.30.... many sold at 0.005 because what apple said.... KNS...

Now I all in SIALANG C24

Posted by probability > 2022-05-29 12:10 | Report Abuse

precisely the two wrong judgement (prejudice) of market now where if you could somehow see through, you have an edge that will potentially give multi bagger return


we can see the difference between US investors market perception of refinery stocks (from valero share price) and local market who had unique experience of gloves euphoria


Posted by CharlesT > May 29, 2022 10:00 AM | Report Abuse

After glove saga n sad endings for many so called long term value investors during 2021/2022, i doubt Heng Yuan 2.0 will be that sexy like Heng Yuan 1.0

Anyway still hv trading opportunity

Posted by klee > 2022-05-29 12:15 | Report Abuse

sslee has changed his profile to that of 'tou san',btw to your ques,my thinking is there is more upside potential to hrc in the next couple of months,esp now that usa refineries are breaking new highs,n usa inflation may have peaked n mkt have a pretty good reversal last couple of days

Posted by klee > 2022-05-29 12:17 | Report Abuse

Everything in mkt comes down to probabilities.If risks are limited vs potential gains,buy.

Posted by harold8990 > 2022-05-29 12:21 | Report Abuse

I dont know why people are comparing refineries and gloves manufacturing facilities…haha…lots of differences from the commisioning to processes involved..its fine, only time will tell i guess..

Posted by smartly > 2022-05-29 12:53 | Report Abuse

@blackgold77, very simple, did u ever buy CW till settlement before ?
if yes, then you should know the dates.
if no, then go make sure loh.

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