Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-07 08:29 |

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Posted by BoomBerg > 2022-09-07 08:29 | Report Abuse

Yessss

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Posted by BoomBerg > 2022-09-07 08:30 | Report Abuse

Already done and Fowarded most malicious comments to them

Posted by BoomBerg > 2022-09-07 08:32 | Report Abuse

Management beginning to take further action soon

Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-09-07 08:32 | Report Abuse

Ya! HY’s bosses must take action against the attackers who spread disinformation and worst insulting the integrity of the management.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 08:37 | Report Abuse

Interest rate swap contracts
The Company enters into interest rate swap contracts to hedge cash flow interest rate risk arising from floating rate term loans (Note 26). This interest rate swap receives floating interest equal to LIBOR, pays a fixed rate of between 2.96% to 3.03% and has the same maturity terms as the term loans.

That mean you lock in you term loan at interest payment LIBOR 2.96% to 3.03% during the duration of term loan.

If your interest payment is monthly, thus if this month LIBOR interest hike to 4%. You phisically pay interest rate to bank at interest at LIBOR + 1.60% per annum.

Your cash settlement monthly interest swap contract will earned you [ 4% - (2.96% to 3.03%)]

Posted by tehka > 2022-09-07 08:39 | Report Abuse

Civil suit coming your way for wrongful allegations. Might want to prepare a lawyer

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 08:41 | Report Abuse

By the way my idol is i3lurker aka Robert De Niro.

Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-09-07 08:41 | Report Abuse

Zhuge,
I think every concerned investors should do so . Let’s do the same .
The culture of spreading disinformations, half baked stories and making comments out of evil intentions must be controlled.

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 6 minutes ago | Report Abuse

@BoomBerg,
Please do us a favour, please report all lies and malicious allegations to the BOD of Hengyuan.
Thank you for your help.

Posted by BoomBerg > 2022-09-07 08:58 | Report Abuse

Kajang and Bamboo River Resort welcome naysayers

Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-09-07 09:16 | Report Abuse

There is nothing wrong with the company and stock price. It went from 3 to 7 due to superb forecast but many becoming over greedy and small little men tried scamming and spamming during the peak consolidation for crazy return without fundamental knowing Bursa overall value was already declining fast. As a result, many stranded and started pointing fingers. Learn the stock market flow and retail participation. Those who pumped silly self claimed facts to support at the few peaks and desperate move should be bashed to the max ! But again if you dont buy and how are we going to SELL? Thanks for your contribution. It's pure business transaction.

Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-07 09:21 |

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-09-07 09:25 | Report Abuse

No problem my friend. The comment is strictly for the newbies who might come in for a look. To share our stock market profits don't fall from the SKY but from the unfortunates. Ironically a few senior and self claimed what stocks masters also gradually fall under that category.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:25 | Report Abuse

Dont sue Ular suey hor. Can sue internet cafe boss or not. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:26 | Report Abuse

Newbie dont judi lah. Judi nanti lose more than win leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

sharemarket21

No problem my friend. The comment is strictly for the newbies who might come in for a look. To share our stock market profits don't fall from the SKY but from the unfortunates. Ironically a few senior and self claimed what stocks masters also gradually fall under that category.

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-09-07 09:31 | Report Abuse

Growing up boys must learn through the process or else go fishing.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:36 | Report Abuse

today VWap 4.77 is the lowest of last 4 days.au careful sikit leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 09:38 | Report Abuse

“Be a reflection of what you’d like to receive. If you want love, give love. If you want respect give respect. If you want insult give insult. If you want curse give curse. What you give out will return to you.” - Author unknown

The word ‘karma’ has originated from the Sanskrit root ‘kri’ which means ‘to do’ or ‘to ‘act’
"Karma" although literally means "action," but more broadly names the universal principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, which Hindus believe governs all consciousness.

The Great Law (Karmic Cycle)
Sometimes called “the Law of Cause and Effect”, the Great Law tells us whatever you give; you shall receive; whether it is positive or negative. Life is an endless knots interlinking of cause and effect, a Karmic cycle that continues eternally.

The Law of Change
History repeats itself until we learn from it and change our path.
The endless knots can only be unknotted unless and until you’ve learned what you need to in order to create a different future.
The future is still in your hand, if only you addressed something fundamental that need changing.

Michelle Obama’s dignified restraint: “When they go low, we go high”. No need to lower ourselves to their level of rudeness and indecency.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-07 09:42 | Report Abuse

To cover up, spew untruth, white lies and to look at it from another angle......is shielded from karma too??? No not talking about those outright lies, deceits and obscenities.

No hard feeling......just being frank. We don't like to obscure in our words.

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-07 09:43 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:45 | Report Abuse

Dont talk karma at here leh. Karma decided by you kah. Sometime overly used karma is like lose the war in stock market and start to intimidate other with karma. Mau judi lagi mau talk karma lagi kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 09:47 | Report Abuse

The Law of Change
History repeats itself until we learn from it and change our path.
The endless knots can only be unknotted unless and until you’ve learned what you need to in order to create a different future.
The future is still in your hand, if only you addressed something fundamental that need changing and thus create a new Karmic Cycle

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:48 | Report Abuse

Very often when ppl kalah judi are those like to talk karma one leh. Dunno why leh. When you win judi you go happy hour already. Lagi ada talk karma kah. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-07 09:48 |

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-07 09:50 | Report Abuse

All know to blame others are the real losers in the stock market.
They are permanently poor.
Always blame others, who wants to provide you information.
Use the information here for reference, any buy decision is always yours.
Grow up lah, no more small kid.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:51 | Report Abuse

Whatever calculation is just assumptions only lah. Bcos you are not the one in HY perform the hedging lah. Talk until cow come home dont think you are right bcos you takda perform the Hedging mah. Only harga saham telling you mah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:53 | Report Abuse

Those blame those kritik also not correct lah. Why insist your calculation is correct but not penkritik leh. If even your calculation is correct doesnt mean the share price will limit up also mah. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-07 09:53 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:55 | Report Abuse

Look at bungaraya MM so insist the QR is explosive one. Pasti limit up after QR pun same mah. Ada explosive QR result tapi Takda limit up lagi mah. Semua pun sama sama also mah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 09:57 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 10:00 | Report Abuse

Sllow me to repeat again:
I do not have information on HRC hedge position nor the duration of hedged nor whether HRC overhedged or underhedged. But be objective and look into Q2 result.

For Q2 2022, the RM897.257M profits before tax already included the realised derivaties loss matured on April, May and June of RM 438,758,000.

For H1 2022, the RM 982,535,000 profit before tax already included the realised derivaties loss matured on Jan, Feb, March, April, May and June of RM 870,964,000.

Hence if HRC do not do the hedging the profit before tax should be RM 870,964,000 + RM 982,535,000. On volume of about 21 million barrel
Or profit before tax of about USD 20 per barrel

And from above figures I derived the facts as most likely HRC already hedged their refining margin for H2:

H1 2022, RM 982,535,000 profit before tax with volume of 21 million barrel.
Per barrel PBT is USD 982,535,000/(21,000,000 × 4.4) = USD 10.63 per barrel which I think is acheivabled for H2.
So H2 at least another PBT of RM 982,535,000

It is up to you to believe or not?

I know many disputed my facts with another figure in Q2 on marked to market (30/06/2022) unrealised derivatives losses of more than RM 1 billion. But the figures in H1 already show you despite the realised derivatives losses of RM 870,964,000 HRC still manage a PBT of RM 982,355,000 after included this realised derivative loss.

Posted by Ali123456 > 2022-09-07 10:02 | Report Abuse

The Management can not prevent or sue anybody for saying anything bad about the business, market or share price.
The Management can certainly sue the people who maliciously defame the Company and Management with allegations like hanky panky account windowdressing , management deliberately disguise hedging loss , siphon of money , accusation of mis-reporting $1.0 bil hedging loss etc etc.
Let's just wait!

Posted by Income > 52 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Wow. Last tactic. Bring Bod to sue people? This forum can’t speak positive as well as negative kah? If speaking one sided, go to North Korea. Communist only listen party praising comments.
Ok. Now I praise HRC limit up to Rm10, you all sure very happy.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-07 10:08 |

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Posted by steven223838 > 2022-09-07 10:19 | Report Abuse

buy at RM3.5-RM4.5

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 10:20 | Report Abuse

Ular punya sifu pun ada tossed coin already leh. More or less ppl pun lebih kurang macam Ular punya TP tapi rendah 10% lagi leh. Pasal Sifu very kiamsiap one half sen pun dont give one leh. Cham lor. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by mf > 2022-09-07 10:21 | Report Abuse

run

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Posted by SinGor > 2022-09-07 10:24 | Report Abuse

shorties and IDSS having a good-time, just like TopGlove......a disease spread by Ular where-ever he goes

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 10:25 | Report Abuse

Ular TP PE 1.5 to 2.0 only leh. Like this pun can kenot cakap very bad leh. Ada yang TP lebih rendah sampai 3.00 ex divvy date leh. Why no issue lawyer letter to the one leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-07 10:25 | Report Abuse

BodAxelrod,
I can only say if HRC take a hit of RM RM 870,964,000 derivatives loss in H1 and still come out with PBT of RM 982,355,000. I am not overly concerned with the marked to market (30/06/2022) unrealised derivatives losses of more than RM 1 billion for the outstanding derivatives.

Because whatever loss in derivatives will be offset by physical better refinning margin.

I wish I have informations what are HRC hedged volume for each month till 2024 and hedged refining margin (diesel or petrol crack spread). But I am sorry to say I do not have these informations.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 10:26 | Report Abuse

If Ular is an indicator then many should thank ular instead of condemn ular like you leh. Those see ular should know what to do mah. You cakap correct or not. Haiyoh. Correct?


SinGor

shorties and IDSS having a good-time, just like TopGlove......a disease spread by Ular where-ever he goes

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-07 10:28 | Report Abuse

Haiyoh 4.61 pin ada leh. Cham lor. Very fast it move to 4.49 the suey one prediction leh. Sudah 3x kena jackpot. 4th time kambing leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by The St. Goreng > 2022-09-07 10:30 | Report Abuse

Talk nonsense more than action. Buy lah offer price since so confident and done so much homework doing junk calculations.

Posted by CharlesT > 2022-09-07 10:30 | Report Abuse

Walau A,......sues more drops more ah?