TOP GLOVE CORPORATION BHD

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Last Price

1.00

Today's Change

0.00 (0.00%)

Day's Change

0.995 - 1.02

Trading Volume

21,005,000


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203,024 comment(s). Last comment by KingKKK 3 hours ago

Johnchew5

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Posted by Johnchew5 > 2021-12-11 11:59 |

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i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:00 | Report Abuse

hahaha

:)


Posted by GlovesOff > Dec 11, 2021 11:54 AM | Report Abuse

The more ular promote price kongkam more

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:00 | Report Abuse

Still ada cash 1 bil leh. Many companies also dont have 100mil cash leh. Why bother as future dividend and tax payout not as high as last Qtr lah. Operating profit can generate more cash flow lah. Must know why cash depleting pasal high dividend and tax payout last QR lah. Taikor still solvent lah. Takut apa lah. profit margin still ada 13% leh. How many company ada double digit profit margin one. Taikor still can generate more money moving forward lah. Correct?



Posted by mlike > Dec 11, 2021 10:16 AM | Report Abuse

Cash rich become fund tight…….


mlike
873 posts
Posted by mlike > Dec 11, 2021 10:17 AM | Report Abuse

How fast to burn money….

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:03 | Report Abuse

Top Glove must immediately implement heavy cost cutting exercise, then got some hope of survival.

Johnchew5

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Posted by Johnchew5 > 2021-12-11 12:03 |

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Johnchew5

11,339 posts

Posted by Johnchew5 > 2021-12-11 12:05 |

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i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:05 | Report Abuse

can start by taking away Ular punya 4 inch mattress and order "it" to sleep at the car park

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:05 |

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UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:09 | Report Abuse

Ular is Red Trooper leh. Swimming to Holland also can take flight back leh. Why so bother Ular like to drink Tulip Essence one leh. Ular sharing only leh. Important myst know ti renew fD at higher interest rate leh. Thats what Ular sharing mah. You dunno what is renewing FD at higher interest rate kah. Then you rrwind Ular punya DVD and watch lah. Correct?



Posted by SunnySunshine > Dec 11, 2021 1:41 AM | Report Abuse

This UlarSawa is swimming hard to Netherlands, he is asking people to join him.

Seem he managed to get some

skcm2017

569 posts

Posted by skcm2017 > 2021-12-11 12:12 | Report Abuse

SBB 1.4b, They know what we dont know... we all are just barking here, no analysis at all.. at the end.. we are just shouting..PNL, China, Covid,.. small anak ikan bilis and most of ppl are even just grandson of ikan bilis..hahahaha..

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:13 | Report Abuse

Dont talk ayam lah. You dare to say that then why you still in this forum leh. To show you very panlai didnt bet Taikor kah. when price up you also say good leh. Now price down you talk ayam again kah. Haiyah Talk ayam panlai only lah. Ular screenshot your post ok. Dobtvever buy Taikor anymore ok. Correct?


Posted by CharlesT > Dec 11, 2021 9:07 AM | Report Abuse

One thing for sure, i dare not put my money even rm1 in glove co for many many years to come

Posted by weisheng1998 > 2021-12-11 12:14 | Report Abuse

pecah gg bankrupt

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:17 | Report Abuse

You cakap very long liao leh. When can kick out Taikor from index stock leh. Taikor is healthcare largest cap stock leh. Want to replace with what stock leh. If later successfully listed in HK lagi bigger exposure leh. Will taikor cap lower than top 30 largest stocks in Bursa kah.
Belum tau lagi lah.Correctt?



Posted by GlovesOff > Dec 11, 2021 7:42 AM | Report Abuse

Kick tg out of klci only la ..... really toh sui ka

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-11 12:21 | Report Abuse

Standby!

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:22 | Report Abuse

No need keep telling you want to buy at lelong price everyday lah. When price hit you then come and tell you dapat lelonng price lah. Belum dapat keep cakap pun useless mah. Macam dreaming only leh. Correct?


Posted by NatsukoMishima > Dec 11, 2021 10:27 AM | Report Abuse

0.82 - 1.20 only will consider this company !

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:25 | Report Abuse

China quality how to compare with Msia branded one leh. Even is cheap why US order more from Msia not from China in Oct leh.
Cheap mah. Why vol drop so drastic for China gloves to US leh. You got check data or not or you just blow water only. Must show data leh. Correct?



Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 9:33 AM | Report Abuse

China gloves can sell off at less than half the price of Malaysian gloves .... ex-factory selling prices

thats if a price war happens

GlovesOff

2,499 posts

Posted by GlovesOff > 2021-12-11 12:26 | Report Abuse

Can smell air of desperation from ular ...

Kasi screenshot tg at 2 first... last historical moment

GlovesOff

2,499 posts

Posted by GlovesOff > 2021-12-11 12:27 | Report Abuse

Looking forward to slew of IB downgrades woohoo

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-11 12:27 | Report Abuse

Not true mah!

China got technology to send people to MARS...surely better quality sup sup sui mah!

China can produce very good quality for better price loh!


Posted by UlarSawa > Dec 11, 2021 12:25 PM | Report Abuse

China quality how to compare with Msia branded one leh. Even is cheap why US order more from Msia not from China in Oct leh.
Cheap mah. Why vol drop so drastic for China gloves to US leh. You got check data or not or you just blow water only. Must show data leh. Correct?



Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 9:33 AM | Report Abuse

China gloves can sell off at less than half the price of Malaysian gloves .... ex-factory selling prices

thats if a price war happens

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:27 | Report Abuse

Omicr8n is non event lagi lah. Not much casulties reported yet. Only higher transmission rate than Delta. Delta still killing more ppl lagiblah. Omicron can replace Delta baru cakap lah. Too early talking about Omicron lah. Correct?


Posted by razifffff82 > Dec 11, 2021 9:40 AM | Report Abuse

This new qr reflects mostly of pre omicron and before the covid rise in europe

bsinvestor

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Posted by bsinvestor > 2021-12-11 12:28 | Report Abuse

As I mentioned before, the future really depend on whether got price war or dumping? It will be sad if malaysia gloves end up like steel industry. slumps for many years. i hope not.

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:32 | Report Abuse

Sudah jual dont pijak Taikor leh. Who know later you itchy hand will buy again leh. You never know leh. Sudah jual move on lah. Why pijak Tan Sri which make Taikor proud to be the largest Glove maker in the world leh. Without Tan Sri you think you will buy Taikor share in the past lah. Must show some respect sikit leh. Anyway Taikor is doing National Sevice reducing unemployment rate in Msia leh. Paying 2 billion tax last FY leh. Correct?



Posted by UPlanet > Dec 11, 2021 9:40 AM | Report Abuse

Luckily sold fast.. Really upset and unexpected Topglove QR!!! Really can’t understand in this trend how TG going to list in HKex??? Who will apply for the IPO??? Really silly TSLWC!!!!

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:50 |

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UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:53 | Report Abuse

I3lurker Lagi cakap you are accountant doing acct for other ppl one kah. Taikor Cash only 892mil kah. Wei money market and debt securities not cash kah. Haiyah. Last Qtr withdrawn alot from money market already leh. That one also cash leh. Correct?

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 12:56 | Report Abuse

Investment securities:

Money market funds 605,848 1,323,297

Debt securities 316,282 306,622

Cash and bank balances 894,949

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:57 | Report Abuse

ular

so u answered the question....

:)

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 12:59 | Report Abuse

but anyhow TG could be insolvent in 1 year's time

and that is not too far off...............

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2021-12-11 12:59 | Report Abuse

Cash and bank balances 894,949??

Only RM 894,949??

How long will it last?

Bayar gaji pun tak cukup mah.

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:00 | Report Abuse

Ular not accoutant by training leh. only hisab passed tingkatvlima only. Ular only kakilima punya newbie watching Youtube and FB sifu sifu sharing one leh. Ular tak tau corrrct or not leh. Correct?




Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 12:57 PM | Report Abuse

ular

so u answered the question....

:)

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:04 | Report Abuse

TG is insolvent in 1 years' time is ONLY based on current pattern continuing as is.

from historical experience, the time pattern is usually 6 months with further deterioration of financials.

China is expected to give away more gloves for free...... or at cost....

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:05 | Report Abuse

Use common sense sikit leh. Taikor never lose money in any Qtr since IPo leh. Berapa company like Taikor one in Bursa can achieve such record. Not even 1% leh. So Taikor will be insolvent in next 1 year kah. Dont talk ayam lah. Tan Sri will not let it happen lah. Correct?


Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 12:59 PM | Report Abuse

but anyhow TG could be insolvent in 1 year's time

and that is not too far off...............

mita29

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Posted by mita29 > 2021-12-11 13:05 | Report Abuse

i3lucker you don't scare ppl again lah until all throw below RM 1, current assets of Top glove is 3.4b, current liabilities is 1.7b, it's ok lah can cover one.... cough cough ...

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:09 | Report Abuse

in just 6 months time TG liquid liabilities will exceed TG liquid assets => Technically insolvent.

what this means ?

=> NO MORE DIVIDENDS

all FD habis pecah



=> of course all this can be prevented by taking away ular punya 4 inch mattress

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:09 | Report Abuse

All talking China is very tai sai just bcos you blood ada chunese chinese origin blood ini macam. Now angmoh gang up to challenge China dominant leh. Who win who lose pun dunno yet leh. One angmoh cannot win China how about 30 angmohs fight china can win or not. Cannot rule out this leh. They all ban china products then who buy their products. Correct?



Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 1:04 PM | Report Abuse

TG is insolvent in 1 years' time is ONLY based on current pattern continuing as is.

from historical experience, the time pattern is usually 6 months with further deterioration of financials.

China is expected to give away more gloves for free...... or at cost....

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:10 | Report Abuse

the burn rate for the next 6 months is expected to be RM1.5 billion or more..... maybe much MORE

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-12-11 13:13 | Report Abuse

" China is expected to give away more gloves for free. "

If like that above, then how can our glove makers do their business or

sell their gloves ?

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:13 | Report Abuse

you forgot .......
those RM1 Billion inventories need to write down when selling prices goes down

possibly RM200 million write off

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:16 | Report Abuse

Inventory ada drop lah. prev qtr higher last qtr lower. anyway 1 Qtr sales can clear 1 bil inventory lah. Anyway need this inventory for urgent shpt that Taikor is anticipating comming months customers will replendish their stocks lah. No stock how to sell leh. Correct?


Posted by i3lurker > Dec 11, 2021 1:13 PM | Report Abuse

you forgot .......
those RM1 Billion inventories need to write down when selling prices goes down

possibly RM200 million write off

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:16 | Report Abuse

I did not just say TG going bankrupt just for fun.

Its all inside those financials

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:19 | Report Abuse

Taikor QoQ production dropped from 60% to 55% last qtr. Now anticipating 10% increase coming Qtr sales. Meaning production will up lah. So simple thing lagi mau teach kah. Common sense lah. Correct?

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2021-12-11 13:20 | Report Abuse

Nonsense lah. Taikor banklap in 1 year tine. Dont make Tan Sri laugh lah. Ular laugh nvm. . Correct?


i3lurker I did not just say TG going bankrupt just for fun.

Its all inside those financials
11/12/2021 1:16 PM

i3lurker

13,952 posts

Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:24 | Report Abuse

from hindsight which is backside
there is much less risk of TG bankruptcy if totally no share buyback was done........
will have more cash buffer....

thats why TG HK IPO is actually do or die
TG needs the cash badly so must be fresh "Issue of Shares"

"Issue of Shares" is always diluting
"Issue of Shares" will dilute existing shareholders' earnings further

Panorama1

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Posted by Panorama1 > 2021-12-11 13:26 | Report Abuse

HaHaHa ! I am not a fan of TG but if TG with > RM1b Net Cash (excluding Treasury Shares) and 9 Digit reduced QR PAT at high risks of bankruptcy, what will be the position of other highly indebted PLCs in Malaysia ? Decipher the figures properly. Substantial Cash outflows in QR1 for income tax payments, dividends etc.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:28 |

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mita29

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Posted by mita29 > 2021-12-11 13:29 | Report Abuse

Top glove has an optimal current ratio of 2. Its ok one lah, better than many companies in bursa. worst come to worst pay the creditors with million boxes of gloves loh. Lolol

Panorama1

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Posted by Panorama1 > 2021-12-11 13:34 | Report Abuse

Serba is a different story altogether. No shrewd investor would have stayed invested and harp on their issues. The red flags by the Big4 since early this year and recent bond default are already ominous signs.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:36 | Report Abuse

haha

with Makmur Tax, outgoings are expected to be more and not less
plus
with deferred tax reversing,

August year end
=> Tax payment in March 2022

=> much higher tax payments are expected very soon.

Panorama1

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Posted by Panorama1 > 2021-12-11 13:42 | Report Abuse

If you understand taxation fully, tax payments are paid monthly in advance via tax estimates. Makmur tax will have minimal effect on TG based on their QR 1 FY2022. In any case, I am not going to waste my golden days weekend to argue and support my case.

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2021-12-11 13:44 | Report Abuse

yes
partially correct
balance of tax is always paid later

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