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77huat77, stockraider: Shouldn't make generalized comments without perspective of rational basis. How can there be collection problem when loan payments are automatically deducted from civil servants monthly pay through ANGKASA? Do you mean the borrowers can default on their loan payments anyway they like?
Revenue should be stable from recurring income as loans take some years to pay. Press release of 2QR ending 30 Sept quoted the management as saying will be more focused on the personal loan financing segment as it is a dominant income earner resulting from higher fee income and growing loan base.
Of course there will be collection problem....like the civil servant lose his jobs bcos of over financial commitment....such as over borrowing and high cost of living...!!
Also don forget pay deduction is not full proof bcos....other creditors still can sue and make him a bankrupt thus his pay deduction not longer valid as it will be vested with the official assignee mah..!!
Creditors who obtain legal judgement....can also injunct the salary deduction too...!!
So friends....pls aware these borrowers not only borrow from RCE, but borrow every way and their spendthrift approach is a big threat to lenders in term of collection loh....!!
Stockraider. Tek seng share price tumbled was due to uncertainty of solar business. Retrenchment is a sign to show its growth potentially dented . This is the risks of buying a growth stock.
The risks associated within RCECap is much lower as the borrowers are mainly government staffs. The revenue and profit won't suddenly plunge unless the growth turn into weakeness in next 2 quarters.
RCECap is traded at lowest PER of 8.2x in finance banking and finance sector. What important is the high growth rate seen to be continued judging from the past track records. High growth company is getting scarce nowadays so I would expect more investors to chase this stock. You would understand more once you make a comparison its financial performance with it peers.
Tekseng was traded at PE 8x...with earnings growth too....!! Even now officially tekseng is still showing better earnings....mkt reacting to the future indications mah.....!!
RCE market may also react too...raider say cautious....be wary mah...lending...to spendthrift people cannot sustain bcos of living going up and too much commitment mah...!!
Beside MBSB and Bank rakyat the lenders thru angkasa salary deduction are slowing down too mah...!!
Surely tsunami is coming with collapse of Ringgit....huge increase price in many many things...it cannot sustain mah...!!
RCECap is certainly benefited from the civil servant pay hike started in Jul 2016. It has reported maintaining loan growth rate of 4% Qtr on Qtr in Sep 2016. No banks and finance companies are able to achieve such growth in this difficult period except AeoCr.
Up_down, I share the same views as you. RCECAP sterling performance is based on loan base of about 1% of the 1.6 million-strong civil servants. Where most competitors have shifted focus, there is still room for RCE growth. Owing to its unique size, RCE, as an investment bank put in, is SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE despite the risks of loan impairments.
Hi guys, can't compare TEK Seng vs Rcecap. This is different industry and TEK Seng is facing challenges where solar industry is facing supply/ demand imbalance and price erosion ion.
how high the risk could be when most loans given to civil servants are using direct salary deduction scheme? RCE had finished cleaning accounts book doing impairment of potential bad loans. when economy down turn, rising cost of living, those civil servants no need to work? won't right. so as well they work and have salary, there will be no impairment. they can't say "oh well, i don't wanna pay for this month instalment with direct salary deduction"
MBSB, its a good company but the management is not that good (EPF). who knows whom they lend their money to and their aggresive behavior in growing the loans leads to massive impairment today.
Noah, this is precisely the point I'm trying to make. Someone earlier in the forum rebutted with a worst-case scenario of overborrowing by RCE borrowers who borrow from other sources as well which result in they being unable to service their debt burden.
This sort of 'worst-case scenario' seems too far-fetched and overstretch one's imagination. Remember: 1. Loan approvals are based on the civil servants job categories, the amount they qualify, their basic livelihood commitments and their ability to pay their loans.
2. RCE has been steadily clearing 'bad loan impairments' especially the 2013-2014 period right until 2016.
3. The prudent RCE management has successfully solidified its financial fundamentals through the cash repayment and share consolidation exercise.
4. RCE is focused on loan quality with implementation of CCRIS which screens the financial integrity of its borrowers.
5. Is it logical for the majority of RCE civil servants to risk their job and livelihood (grave disciplinary implications) through reckless borrowings that can impact seriously on RCE revenue?
yuanlong57 agreed... the only risk of impairment is of the following situation:
the civil servant resign and so no automatic salary deduction. as the edge weekly latest coverage, they did interview MBSB CEO about this. he say there are numbers of civil servant , mostly in the 21-30 years old resigning from gov sector and finding jobs in private sector. and some refused or unable to service their loan borrowed before and leads to impaired loan.
so, the risk only arose when, the civil servant resign AND followed by refuse or unable to pay. the 2nd scenario cannot occur without the occurance of the 1st.
but RCE is addressing this issue by linking into CCRIS system. so those that refuse to pay will have their name in CCRIS system which make it impossible for them to deal with any credit facilitiy, not even apply a credit card from any malaysian bank.
so, personal loan sector dealing with gov servent is still relatively safe. the problem of personal loan rising gross impaired loan (GIL) only involve the private sector.
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Whoever participates in this forum are supporters of RCECAP who directly or indirectly contribute to the strength of the stock. My personal view is, the more experienced and knowledgeable ones should gently and humbly guide the weaker ones to invest well. Words tactfully worded can be excellent encouragement to help others excel too.