MAS-CG:CW MAS BERHAD (MIBB)

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62 comment(s). Last comment by Mat Cendana 2012-12-13 17:59

chong

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Posted by chong > 2012-05-10 11:11 | Report Abuse

Buy , 8 months to play

garytan88

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Posted by garytan88 > 2012-05-10 11:19 | Report Abuse

Chong, CG exercise price 1.50, CF 1.18.

Pak Lah

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Posted by Pak Lah > 2012-05-10 13:37 | Report Abuse

Mas-CF (strike price 1.18) worths a buy. This shall be followed by MAS-CI (strike price 1.35). Other than these two call warrants are all but rubbish. So, Chong please do your homework before making recommendations.

garytan88

72 posts

Posted by garytan88 > 2012-05-10 13:57 | Report Abuse

Pak Lah, thanks. We are here just to compare notes and opinion only. Chong, no offence...

chong

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Posted by chong > 2012-05-11 03:10 | Report Abuse

I just got my reasons for picking CG & please Pak Lah, if you are not interested in buying, please don't simply condemned people as you buy yours & I buy mine.... I do more homework than you ever do & right now at even at 2.59am I am still doing homework almost all trading days, do you brother Pak Lah???... & I had make a few recommendations and they all are in target & members here make money.

If you Pak Lah is so good at recommendation as you appeared to be, then you take over my place & write & analysis & you do all the recommendation please. You people come here & make plenty of noises & never make any good concrete contributions to all forum members here.

As forumers we are to share & contribute & not to be a hit & criticize kakis....make money you laugh loudly to yourself but as soon as you all lose a few ringgit, you all start pointing fingers. If you don't like what you read, then pass on & no need to open your big mouth Pak Lah.

As I had said Pak Lah, nobody is pointing a gun on your head to force you to buy. Yes, you alone make your own decisions & you let your own fingers do the clicking & not mine. If you don't like my recommendations, please pass & no need to be hard hitting...hope you get this into your thick head.

Cheers.

jtpc2006

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Posted by jtpc2006 > 2012-05-11 08:37 | Report Abuse

to all bros and sis, I put my money on bro Chong's recommendations, he shares his 'homework' with us and we are deeply appreciative of his patience with us dungoos (sometimes, haha) answering questions left, right and centre. You all make up yr own minds to buy or sell, that's all, no need for hasty words.

chippy

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Posted by chippy > 2012-05-11 08:46 | Report Abuse

Bro Pak Lah, Orang Berbudi Kita Berbahasa. I am so sad looking at your comment against Chong. Please reflect, we are here to share and prosper, so no need for those hasty and unnecessary words....if you do not like what you see.....move on. TQ

franksoweto

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Posted by franksoweto > 2012-05-11 08:57 | Report Abuse

Bro Chong, Please keep up your good work eventhough you owe no one anything. I'm sure many here are very appreciative of your advice and recomendations. You're a good man so please don't at times some negative comment keep you distracted. Also need some sleep sometimes to recharge :) Take care of your health,Sir!

Jester

852 posts

Posted by Jester > 2012-05-11 09:02 | Report Abuse

true2.. Bro chong has contributed a lot of knowledge to a lot of people.. He is kind to share a lot of his insighs. Pak Lah, this is not the place for hasty words..

Orang berbudi kita berbahasa.

stncws

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Posted by stncws > 2012-05-11 09:03 | Report Abuse

I believe no one is allowed to scold people, please behave yourself, everyone got his or her view, bro chong, your will or recommendations is not always right, and sometime also misleading,you have to control your temper and keep cool.

Do threathen and make malicious claims, and i do not agree you "pancing ikan" by collecting email from this forum. Actually you against the rules here.

My 2 cents

Posted by tradersam 56 > 2012-05-11 09:43 | Report Abuse

I have observed Bro Chong's recommendations eversince joining this forum. I think he had done a lot of research and good work and has a good record of correct predictions! I believe he is very sincere and wants to help members to "Huat Huat" together although a lot of times I regret I didnt follow him..not because I dont trust him but that I dont have the capital to invest as I am stuck in many counters! Keep up the excellent work Bro Chong !!
Pls note he is only human and cannot be 100% correct all the time otherwise he would be a millionaire already and no need to bother you guys in this forum!!

CP TEH

374 posts

Posted by CP TEH > 2012-05-11 10:34 | Report Abuse

Hi all

My experiences with forum(s) are not good. It is too noisy, too many different people with different opinions. Different styles of trading, different time frame and strategies. Even if one is sincere to help, it wont help being in forum.

We have total newbies in markets talking or asking if can punt into those empty-shells speculative stocks. we have novices wanting to get-rich-quick by punting into some call-warrants only to get stucked(and badly burnt). We all know who are them ... they are amongst us. With 80-90% of them losing money in markets, we will have not much of chances in markets, arent we?

We all entitled to our opinions. We could not tell people what to do or what not to do. Let them learn their lessons the painful way, to make them to realise that trading is NOT as easy as it seems to be. If they could survive, they will learn from the mistakes and becoming wiser. Otherwise, they wont last long as markets do not have OUR emotions in interest!!

No matter what, I do still think this is a good platform to share.

Mistakes by newbies : Believing in 'sifu' or 'master' mentality.

Believe in yourself, that is more lasting.

TEH

It is noisy ... and will remain noisy here.

jtpc2006

984 posts

Posted by jtpc2006 > 2012-05-11 12:12 | Report Abuse

let me put it straight - if not for the genuine sharers and carers like bro Chong, most of us will fail badly by just listening to the wind, gossip, hot air, being led by our noses just because this counter is linked to that political hotshot or that party, because we dont do our homework or we do not know how to read the data, background and have little experience. So we say thank you to bro Chong with lots and lots of goodwill. And finally we are masters of our fate, and it is up to us to decide to follow or not to follow any recommendations he or any party makes, and we learn and become wiser.

jacklew

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Posted by jacklew > 2012-05-11 12:31 | Report Abuse

That's the beauty of the market, right?? :-) Enjoy your trading...

garytan88

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Posted by garytan88 > 2012-05-11 12:41 | Report Abuse

Well said and well done to all. As most agreed with Chong, lets look forward to ECM, SMARTAG, BIMB........ Keep it up Chong.

chong

3,074 posts

Posted by chong > 2012-05-12 01:32 | Report Abuse

Now the reason of me choosing MAS CG instead of other MAS warrants no matter how attractive they are...now read on please


Yes, MAS needs fund to restructure itself & trim the fat too. Then by year end things will turn better for MAS hopefully with the much needed funds....it does take time to use the big knife to do all the cost cutting & fat trimming. So MAS CG expiry date is until the 1st Quarter of 2013 & it will definitely come in handy by then when most of the other warrants RIP but still got hope for CG price to pick up when it's real cheap now. By that time next year 2013, MAS will improve itself & not be in the RED.


..and now read the bridging loan which MAS so badly need below please...

MAS to get up to RM1.5b bridging loan from CIMB

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian Airline System Bhd (MAS) is close to securing up to RM1.5 billion in a bridging loan from CIMB Group Holdings Bhd, giving it ample time to structure a RM3 billion bond for its long-term needs.

According to three separate sources, the one-year bridging loan is intended to finance the national carrier’s daily operational needs. “This would give MAS some time to structure the bonds,” said a business executive familiar with the matter.

The sources added that CIMB could be the front runner for the RM3 billion sukuk offering, since it has provided the bridging loan to MAS.

“MAS would get the best financial terms from CIMB, given its status as a national carrier. Also, Khazanah Nasional Bhd is a common shareholder in both entities,” he said.

At press time, MAS had not replied to queries from The Edge Financial Daily.

An aviation analyst said the bridging loan is a normal course of operation as MAS would need to address the financial needs for daily operations.

“Given its status as a national carrier, I do not foresee any difficulty for MAS getting a bridging loan. In addition, Khazanah holds controlling stakes in MAS and CIMB. As such, the news is not that all surprising,” he said.

The analyst also noted that MAS would still need to address the challenges to turn around its earnings.

“The news does little to alleviate the bearish views on the national carrier,” he said.

The national carrier is looking to issue RM3 billion worth of bonds this year in order to bridge the funding gap for its capital requirement of RM6 billion.

At the end of 2011, MAS had RM1 billion in its coffers while borrowings amounted to RM5.7 billion. MAS needs RM6 billion to finance its new fleet, which includes the Airbus A380, Boeing B777 and B737 aircraft. MAS needs to issue the paper on a commercial basis as a helping hand from the government could be seen as a breach of competition laws, said a company source.

Earlier this month, the share swap with AirAsia Bhd was called off following strong resistance from MAS’ union. The share swap was originally intended to lend a helping hand to the loss-making carrier.

Analysts said AirAsia had gained the most from the share swap reversal, while MAS continues to face structural issues.

RHB Research noted that MAS is operating in a saturated full-service market and will have trouble trimming its not so lean workforce. It noted that Malaysia is not a natural market for business travellers.

MAS posted a record net loss of RM2.5 billion last year, compared to a net profit of RM234.5 million a year earlier.

MAS fell to RM1.17 on Wednesday, the lowest since 1999. However, it gained one sen to close at RM1.18 yesterday. It has declined
9.23% since the beginning of the year.

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-05-12 08:49 | Report Abuse

Hi everyone!
I am so happy to read this msg thread where i noticed each one of you treat everyone like a family or at least treat as a good friend. Indeed, very sad to see what happened to MAS as this counter was introduce to me in Sept 2006 at RM2.3 where the price shoot sky rocket to 3.3 in Feb 2007, worth holding it for 5 months. I am new to this forum and as observed; people like Brother Chong, CP TEH and some others who sincerely gave a helping hand by sharing all the infos they have done from their homework, research and even by mingling around to the extend of contacting the companies where they bought their shares. This is beautiful! and i must emphasize that beautiful things are always fragile my friend, you must take good care of it with love and care.
-Nice meeting you guys in here, orang berbudi kita berbahasa, nice! salam perkenalan.

jester

852 posts

Posted by jester > 2012-05-12 09:48 | Report Abuse

Let us learn together bros.

Salam perkenalan

Eagle95

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Posted by Eagle95 > 2012-05-12 10:54 | Report Abuse

Yes,bro Namoyaki,I totally agree with u,we should help each other in this platform,we all bro and sis.thx a lot to our senior investor or sifu like bro chong and bro cp Teh,we r really appreciate ur kindness and sharing.all the best to u all,happy trading,cheers..

angsri

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Posted by angsri > 2012-05-13 18:07 | Report Abuse

In any group there are sure to be some thick heads. TQ Bro Chong keep up your sharing. Salam.

eagleis

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Posted by eagleis > 2012-05-13 19:11 | Report Abuse

You know why the Indians break coconuts on the road on Deepavali day? It's to break those thick stubborn heads.

chong

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Posted by chong > 2012-05-21 17:18 | Report Abuse

Today buying of CG is good.....people buying in big volume...buy & keep for a few months & see your money grows.

chong

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Posted by chong > 2012-05-23 09:55 | Report Abuse

Told you all to buy, didn't I...the government won' allow MAS to die miserably.

Posted by optimus9633 > 2012-05-23 22:07 | Report Abuse

Bro Chong, i have bought some. May i know what is the TP? How long should we keep it? TQ for your advise. ^-^

Posted by optimus9633 > 2012-05-24 00:49 | Report Abuse

Oops..I overlooked your earlier answer. Keep for few months..

chong

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Posted by chong > 2012-05-24 01:22 | Report Abuse

Yes, brother optimus9633, keep for a few months & see your money multiplies....now MAS got a few billion dollars to help out; secondly MAS is dictating the terms for the in flight food suppliers, yes MAS told the caterers in no uncertain terms in that "you supply what I need and not you supply to your whims & fancies", no more & no less so that there is no wastage of food; thirdly staff who wants to take unpaid leave for 2 years years to look for other jobs can do so now....as it is MAS had a bloated staff. Those higher ups at MAS think they are still in civil service, that is recruit & recruit new staff without thinking of future consequences.

If MAS starts operating on a real commercial basis, I am sure MAS can use the biggest knife to trim the fat. I guess MAS had too many cronies mouth to feed.

In fact, some top people in MAS treat MAS like their father or grandfathers company....hee, hee, hee.

chong

3,074 posts

Posted by chong > 2012-05-27 14:57 | Report Abuse

latest TP for MAS from OSK is $1.38 cents...now read on..


MAS' 1Q core losses exceeded our and consensus full-year forecasts. We consequently raise our loss forecast for FY12 and the carrier is now only expected to post a decent EBITDA by FY13. On a positive note, yields and unit CASK (Cost/ASK) are turning favourable for MAS and more importantly, funding for its RM6bn fleet expansion is close to being resolved, which should boost sentiment on the stock. We upgrade MAS to a TRADING BUY with a higher FV of RM1.38 that is premised on 7.5x FY14 EV/EBITDA.

Losses narrowing.Stripping out the forex, disposal gains and other exceptional items (totaling RM233m), MAS' 1Q net loss came in at RM405m on the back of RM3.108bn in revenue. The losses far exceed both our and consensus full-year estimates, no thanks to the higher-than-expected fuel and aircraft leasing expenses despite revenue being in line. Nonetheless, losses have narrowed by 58% q-o-q and only higher by 6.3% y-o-y, due to the lower fuel consumption following capacity cuts (by 7.7% y-o-y and 8.2% q-oq). This was despite jet fuel price per barrel inching up by 13% over the period.

Unit yields and costs turning positive. MAS managed to boost yields y-o-y by 12.5% to 27.1 sen/RPK after trimming its unprofitable routes to focus on the high-yielding ones, notably its Kangaroo routes and improved front-end cabin take-up amid the withdrawal of some AirAsia X long-haul flights. The reduction in capacity has also improved yields from the cargo side. MAS was wise to focus on boosting yields (hence higher ticket prices) instead of competing head on with AirAsia for both domestic and international routes. The sequential decline in yields by 6% q-o-q can be attributed to seasonality. While yields are up, cost remains stubbornly high as MAS' CASK of 27.7 sen continued to inch higher by 5.4% y-o-y which is higher than SIA's quantum of 3.3% (9.4 cents). MAS' high costs structure remains a concern given its high breakeven load factor of 102% (an improvement from last year's 109%) and there is still plenty of room for cost structure improvement with the delivery of brand new aircrafts which ultimately will improve fuel burn mileage given the younger fleet age.

Capex resolved.We were previously concerned over how MAS will finance its RM6bn worth of capex for its fleet of aircraft deliveries in 2012 (which amount to 23 aircraft comprising 13 737-8s, 5 A330s and 5 A380s) to enhance the fleet age to 7.7 years from the current age of 12.2 years, after potentially returning 34 old aircrafts to its lessors by the end of this year. We understand only 1 aircraft was returned in 1Q so far given the issue of capex standstill. However, after MAS announced its 3 pillars of financing in the near term, we do not see the delivery of new aircrafts being an issue although this might be delayed a few months to 1H2013. A young fleet age will be favourable towards improving fuel efficiency and yields, and ultimately boosting MAS' profitability.

starwood

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Posted by starwood > 2012-06-17 23:26 | Report Abuse

Fuel down is good for airline's stock....

sontoloyo

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Posted by sontoloyo > 2012-06-17 23:42 | Report Abuse

I am buying tomorrow .... Its cheap. If fumble ... Only 3 sen ma..

keew

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Posted by keew > 2012-06-19 15:14 | Report Abuse

how come dealer declined my queue to purchase this online?

Knight

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Posted by Knight > 2012-07-04 16:48 | Report Abuse

this share are possible rise back? around 6 month to expire

starwood

112 posts

Posted by starwood > 2012-07-05 22:05 | Report Abuse

If Possible someone Took Over MAS???

Posted by casual_investor > 2012-07-05 22:47 | Report Abuse

The best solution is to follow the trend....budget air and enhance its marketing. If you can't win but you can follow the successful model of what airasia is doing. Now airasia is not just a airline, it also provide the ease of buying insurance, hotel and prepaid phone card for traveller convenience. They are now selling solution and lifestyle. Be wise to learn from Samsung - when u r not good at it pls COPY from your competitor and do better than them... Just my 2cts view.

Posted by James Woon > 2012-08-13 16:27 | Report Abuse

bought this at 1 cent...anybody in? we could take a short flight if mother rebound for coming few days..

ooiooi

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Posted by ooiooi > 2012-08-13 17:18 | Report Abuse

Do you think how much it will go? i also buy at 1 cent already

Posted by James Woon > 2012-08-13 17:32 | Report Abuse

for me I will take any profit...if we manage to sell it at RM 0.015 already making a 50% gain...you may sell portion of your holding at 0.015 and hold the rest for any surprise :) But don't be too greedy lar...remember the expiry date is only 5 months ahead, and the premium is very high at 49%...any thing went wrong it could become toilet paper...good luck! :)

EmoTrader

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Posted by EmoTrader > 2012-08-13 18:04 | Report Abuse

I waiting for free offer! Hehe

passerby

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Posted by passerby > 2012-08-14 11:12 | Report Abuse

James Woon: It seems like you like to pick something against the trend. Picking put warrant on the uptrend counter & picking call warrant on the downtrend counter....it will be good to know your successful rate in trading the warrant here

Posted by James Woon > 2012-08-14 11:39 | Report Abuse

well i made most of my profit with WCT-WB and BIMB-HA for the past three months...bought WB at 0.255 and sold in 0.33...bought HA at 0.07 and sold at 0.08...now still holding WB at 31 cents which I re-bought using the profit I made. Also holding some HA now as CIMB would push the mother BIMB down to kill BIMB-CC as shared by bro Chong...as for WB, WCT quarter report will be out soon...if you know how much projects handled and won by WCT you will expect its profit is going to be increased...for every purchase there are reasons for that...and please don't worry for me. You can make your own judgement. By the way, buying for MAS-CG is purely speculative for a technical rebound...I didn't put much though...cheers

passerby

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Posted by passerby > 2012-08-14 12:21 | Report Abuse

Good to hear you have successful warrants trade. :)

Posted by moneycomecome > 2012-08-14 16:25 | Report Abuse

just believe!

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-08-16 17:20 | Report Abuse

when is mas-cg exp. date? anyone knows? thnks in advance.

tansrihew

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Posted by tansrihew > 2012-08-16 17:44 | Report Abuse

Expires in 29/1/2013

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-08-17 08:56 | Report Abuse

GOOD-lah! Bought at 1 cents yesterday. Thanks Passerby, Tan Sri Hew.

Posted by James Woon > 2012-08-17 09:37 | Report Abuse

MAS rebound! Hope everybody can at least make a 50% gain today :)

Posted by rezza hazriq > 2012-08-17 09:51 | Report Abuse

Me already get handsome profit today ... walaweiiiii

Posted by James Woon > 2012-08-17 10:01 | Report Abuse

haha, congrats...duit raya tu :D

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-08-17 13:10 | Report Abuse

Congrats Rezza, belanja us ketupat & rendang.

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-08-27 09:51 | Report Abuse

Whoaaaa... the roller coaster is catching up to the peak! (dizzy)

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