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2,632 comment(s). Last comment by necro 2016-09-14 22:10

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-11 23:52 | Report Abuse

Even US to9 rising but dont forget Oil is making low today . It anytime can break below USD60.00 .Is no issue if those plan to panic sell tomorrow morning then go ahead. If you believe KLCI can move higher,ringgit can strengthen,Oil can rebound,europe and china market can go well ..No problem ..

You has a right to make your own decision without get influenced by anyone.Remember any decision you make is your own responsibility an do no blame anyone tha caused you do any decision either sell or hold after that . .

Vaylens Chong

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Posted by Vaylens Chong > 2014-12-11 23:55 | Report Abuse

ok call!

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 00:05 | Report Abuse

just remember why they keep cause panic and mind manupulated u guys...they want cheaper price in, just ignore. market now is lack of power especially malaysia is no more support from foreign fund.

gohlai

469 posts

Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 00:10 | Report Abuse

oh really ar?... if forummers, bloggers and analyst here can be trusted...pigs can fly...haha

gohlai

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Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 00:13 | Report Abuse

the article dec 4 la abang...

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 00:13 | Report Abuse

then did u see foreign fund coming back? do u? wake up la.....

ImCK

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Posted by ImCK > 2014-12-12 00:13 | Report Abuse

gohlai dont degil QE already end all market will down
http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/80908
1600 is klse real value

gohlai

469 posts

Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 00:41 | Report Abuse

u better tell armada forummers...and see what they tell u

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 01:04 | Report Abuse

Gohlai talk east talk west no use.. just wait tomorrow better la. cheer.

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2014-12-12 02:24 | Report Abuse

US dow jones up mean stronger US dollar...bad to Malaysia RM, oil price not rebounce..bad to Malaysia income..2 knife going to kill Malaysia...so what do u think on Bursa market...bull or bear?

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2014-12-12 02:30 | Report Abuse

Is US dow jones down is good to Malaysia? Hard to tell..if big drop mean market not good...whole world follow panic selling... so need take time to see good or bad to Malaysia

Posted by maunkulopdollah > 2014-12-12 03:09 | Report Abuse

Technical rebound in bearish zone is not consider as uptrend move coz the overall movement remain unchanged...

godbless88

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Posted by godbless88 > 2014-12-12 03:13 | Report Abuse

Sometimes, TA & FA don't work - this is now one of those times.
So how do we know where are KLCI heading? By reading the economy.

gohlai

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Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 03:34 | Report Abuse

fuahh...fuahh....sendiri give question....sendiri also give answers...hehe...best best lar u

godbless88

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Posted by godbless88 > 2014-12-12 03:45 | Report Abuse

gohlai... are you're blind? Anyhow, reiterate what you've said, it's freedom of speech.
At least way better than ur shouting, screaming, and talking to yourself most of the time.

gohlai

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Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 03:51 | Report Abuse

noler..im not blind...its just amazed me ....that you get so excited and happy when everyone dies or crash and burn in KLSE....:)

godbless88

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Posted by godbless88 > 2014-12-12 03:54 | Report Abuse

Did I? nope. You must be imagining things.
More like you did.

godbless88

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Posted by godbless88 > 2014-12-12 03:59 | Report Abuse

Posted by gohlai > Dec 11, 2014 04:59 PM | Report Abuse

yayyyyy

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2014-12-12 05:13 | Report Abuse

Dow jones up 220 plus but last minutes only up 54, wti oil price drop to 59 plus....today another good day for put warrant..unless local fund go and support the index again

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 06:19 | Report Abuse

oil drop below 60 now 59.14...hahahah how about it gohlai? hahahaah sure drop like shit today....all market n nation say will support at 60 now all wrg. Today drop for u...just ignore this stupid gohlai ba we all hahahahah huat r..

ImCK

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Posted by ImCK > 2014-12-12 06:28 | Report Abuse

oil market crashing

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 07:18 | Report Abuse

Today we will see these sin ka lan keep shouting and screaming about klci will up till 1800 will disappear from this forum...

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 07:20 | Report Abuse

Yesterday us up250 points cause of retail sales better report. I believe today onward dowjones will continue falling afte retreat from gain ..

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 07:24 | Report Abuse

Today those want to sell and take profit go ahead.... But pls after take profit then keep quiet and don't make noise and spread a fake news to create panic sell with motive. This type of behavior should be avoid ...

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 07:25 | Report Abuse

what i come across some expertise they debate something about this crude oil vs shale oil....just share it up not sure is right or wrg...they mention crude oil wanan fight with shale they need drop price till 52 per barrel. why? they say shale oil cost of production is 53 cost per barrel. if crude wanan win the race they need 52 per barrel and crude oil in saudi cost of production is 3 per barrel. so will it drop to 52? who know but i think sound logic. any comment right or not?

ImCK

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Posted by ImCK > 2014-12-12 07:30 | Report Abuse

haha sinkalan still dreaming byebye going g 0.40 soon
klse real value is 1600
1700-1900 consider is expensive already

ImCK

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Posted by ImCK > 2014-12-12 07:32 | Report Abuse

region as i know arab is trying to stop u.s produce oil
this is money game see who can tahan . For sure it will drop back to
40-50usd

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 07:33 | Report Abuse

Based on the chart oil may hit USD 55 per barrel ..any breakdown below USD 55 will go more lower

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 07:43 | Report Abuse

yeah serve them back the sin ka lan those spread omen and wanna grab on cheap...hahahah any way, Simon and ImCk, let us all enjoy rocket show today and huat together ya hahahahah

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 07:54 | Report Abuse

Ya...let them grab high price stock if they want curi2 masuk...haha.actually
Did you all noticed yesterday last 30 min movement.? SHark sapu habits 20k lots at HG with price 20 cent then keep accumulating.. They know oil will break below usd60 yesterday so they sapu for today show.. Klci last min fall and spike o negative 20 points show that local fund is exchauted and gave up.. Today no more rebound if not mistaken .

newklear

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Posted by newklear > 2014-12-12 07:57 | Report Abuse

Crude from KSA is roughly USD10-25 (estimated)/barrel while shale is much higher. However, crude oil production cost in the US, Canada can be much higher...States like North Dakota could potentially still sustainable with crude prices falling in the range of USD35-45.

BUT...what's the hype of oil? You see...Malaysia is SEA third largest economy, and the only net oil exporter. However, MY is not a huge oil exporter in comparison with some OPEC countries. Now, what's the problem...

It's the targeted budget deficit. Budget 2015 was based on an oil price of USD 105 assuming tax and dividends from Petronas. Now with the falling crude prices, we would have to straighten up our wallets and spend less or perhaps even scrapping some announced projects.

THE PROBLEM IS THE GOVERNMENT BOND. MY is one of the emerging countries with the highest FOREIGNER BOND holders, standing at approximately 45% +/-3%. Indonesia is only at about 36%?? While Thailand at 20%??

What happens now is that when the budget deficit target is way off course because of crude (which is no where near steady levels now as I foresee further downtrend possibility), foreigners will continue to sell our local currency denominated bonds. When they sell the bonds, they will dump ringgit to buy back USD. Cheap money in the US is ending and we could for once see the end of dollar carry trade next year...which is highly possible considering the interest rate in the US might rise next year if the US economy picks up steam.The selling of MYR and the buying of USD is the result of bonds selling...which I foresee is still on-going. The downtrend at Bursa is definitely a spillover effect, considering that what you gain can easily vaporize with the depreciating ringgit....

Back to MY, I foresee that oil is still in the downtrend mode with no signs of bottoming out. Potentially, my view is that it could easily hit USD50 or below by year end. This is in view that China's economy is somewhat showing flu like symptoms while Japan is in deeper recession that forecast. Russia is dying and so is Europe. With Russia dying even more with the fall in the Russian Ruble, Europe will be even worse as exports to Russia will stagnate. Russia and Europe will meet the end of the road soon as evidently observed in Greece, starting to crack again....unless ECB strikes up a deal to offer cheap loans to banks or perhaps buy gov bonds.

Summarizing in brief, my view is that more selling anticipated with MY gov. bonds and the ringgit could significantly weaken further if continued selling persists. I would suggest a wait and see attitude for now...

As for warrants, put warrants is definitely a good hedge against falling indices especially the ones which will be expiring soon...

P.S. The views posted above are strictly personal and MUST NOT be treated as an inducement to BUY/SELL or whatsoever trading decisions.

Posted by xiaolingling > 2014-12-12 08:30 | Report Abuse

Ha ha ha ha !!! My happy day today ,finally I bought something right :)

kytan

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Posted by kytan > 2014-12-12 08:40 | Report Abuse

Oil sure go down 50 end of the month,...the data i got is Saudi Oil price cost is 22 USD, shale oil cost in US is 27 to 45 USD. If using better technology, Shale oil price can drop to average 35 USD.
Now the fight just started....

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 08:44 | Report Abuse

Oil future making low again and now traded at USD58.80

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 08:47 | Report Abuse

TOday is goreng day...Huat ah....:)

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 08:57 | Report Abuse

seem like some ppl might need to buy high price ticket to enter already hahaah now Rm0.30 min price entry soon hahaha

cassyee

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Posted by cassyee > 2014-12-12 08:58 | Report Abuse

0.30 for today?

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 08:58 | Report Abuse

Region....cheers...let huat today....:)

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 09:01 | Report Abuse

cassyee also here. why see alot old ifca goreng ppl lolx

dragonking

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Posted by dragonking > 2014-12-12 09:02 | Report Abuse

Do some study and you will see the best buy is FBMKLCI-HD

simon84

7,147 posts

Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 09:04 | Report Abuse

Let me top up abit first...klci now up is good for top up ..

cassyee

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Posted by cassyee > 2014-12-12 09:04 | Report Abuse

region, yup, at here a week :)

Vaylens Chong

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Posted by Vaylens Chong > 2014-12-12 09:04 | Report Abuse

why drop?

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2014-12-12 09:05 | Report Abuse

Morning simon84,

top up now?? GENG!!!!!!!! Really GENG

Posted by simon84 > Dec 12, 2014 09:04 AM | Report Abuse

Let me top up abit first...klci now up is good for top up ..

region

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Posted by region > 2014-12-12 09:05 | Report Abuse

LOL now u see green, later u see red. haha top up

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2014-12-12 09:06 | Report Abuse

lol, nothing happening...@@"

gohlai

469 posts

Posted by gohlai > 2014-12-12 09:06 | Report Abuse

really?...seems like climbing

simon84

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Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-12 09:08 | Report Abuse

top up a bit again...hmm klci go up up ..i support u up...come on...

hooi

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Posted by hooi > 2014-12-12 09:10 | Report Abuse

Bought FBMKLCI-HB at 0.255(Trading buy)

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