Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 10:00 | Report Abuse

u r correct

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-24 10:05 | Report Abuse

ys you handle hibiscus forum

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 10:06 | Report Abuse

dah buat, tapi dok gaduh ngan sekor tu, boring aku ngan dia

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 10:10 | Report Abuse

he preferred the old promoter, name sounded like supermarket LOL

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 10:13 | Report Abuse

takpe aku tabahkan hati, ramai pun nyampah ngan dia kat situ pok pek pok pek pok pek sekali jual CA time merah, dia jual, CA naik balik, aku lak missed boat ngan pok pek pok pek dia kat situ, very unhealthy

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 13:33 | Report Abuse

maybe he didn't understand malay language

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 13:38 | Report Abuse

orang malaysia mesti faham MALAY language, MALAY language national language, kalau X faham bukan orang MALAYSIA ler

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 13:54 | Report Abuse

Tidak setuju begitu. Pemikiran harus luas dan universal. Nilai universal dan kemanusiaan lebih penting. Ada orang yang dilahirkan bisu dan pekak, jadi tidak berbahasa juga. Ok, mungkin kecuali ini dan itu. Mungkin biar mati anak, jangan mati adat. Tapi, tidak semua roang setuju begitu juga.

Memang tidak patut sesekali sampai fikirkan begitu- jangan jangan sampai kerana tidak bla bla bla tidak boleh jadi homo sapiens pula (contoh yang extrem )

Wasatiyyah atau kesederhanaan atau konsep Zen (moderate) yang harus dipertahankan kerana hanyalah dengan konsep sedemikian kita bersatu

Segala yang extrem hanya akan jadi unsur pemisah puak homo sapines ( tolong kaji balik sejarah/prasejarah )

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-24 13:55 | Report Abuse

wow engineering profit speak MALAY very well indeed

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-24 13:56 | Report Abuse

J’habite au Selangor, Malaysia

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 14:02 | Report Abuse

agree bro engineeringprofit, hand in hand, HIBISCUS up Monday

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 16:36 | Report Abuse

haik engineeringprofit pun dapat flag, mark sokong engineeringprofit pun dapat flag?

hantu mana yang anti bahasa MELAYU ini, awak semua ingat ini MALAYSIA. pi tengok mana awak labur duit awak BURSA MALAYSIA kan, so suka la sape2 nak cakap Malay language - the national language of Malaysia

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 16:41 | Report Abuse

Dengan taraf bumiputera, bolehlah di brag kan saya lebih Malaysian daripada jiran2 saya yang bukan....LOL.....clever or stupid, huh?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 16:47 | Report Abuse

Hantu dan anti negara sebenar ialah mereka yang buta2 gagal membezakan konsep yang sahih (down to earth) dengan yang legenda (myth)...

....dan gagal stand up untuk mempertahankan negara dengan effisien dan secepat kilat daripada pihak atasan yang menyelewang when things happen

( mungkin mereka hanya seperti kura2 masukkan kepala ke dalam cengkerangnya sahaja)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 16:52 | Report Abuse

Sorry, bukan semua melabur di sini. Ramai yang berjudi dalam konsep yang sahih.......tanpa disedari......atau tidak mahu akui......atau kurang jujur terhadap bla, bla dan bla

Kaki flag sounds like it

Kaki Imvest?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 17:02 | Report Abuse

Baru2 ini, Namweee, artis yang berdaya cipta tinggi (kreatif) dan FASIH DALAM BAHASA MALAYSIA dikatakan tidak layak jadi orang Malaysia.....

.......faaih pun tidak cukup criteria........

ya, sebab dia tidak faham budaya Malaysia....

hahaha

LOL

(watajoke! Enough is enough........till judgment day, only satann sees himself holier than other sapiens)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 17:10 | Report Abuse

Kalau u memgawal ekonomi sebuah negara yang kaya dengan pelbagai sumber ........


dan betul2 cintakan negara u ......dan u mengawal berbillion2 (cukup utk membuat setiap penduduk u jutawan)

........adakah u suka lihat ramai masih tipu untuk melayak diri mereka mendapatkan pelbagai pemberian bantuan daripada u?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-02-24 17:23 | Report Abuse

......as long as everyone speak the same language and practise the same culture

......honesty, integrity and creativity (and lots of other sapiens' valurs) are secondary?

And you would only be the leader of a country like that??

(and expect lomg term wealth/prosperity/competitiveness/survival?)

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 20:42 | Report Abuse

Trader Jokes - sources online

A man in a hot air balloon realised he was lost.
He reduced his altitude and saw a man below.
"Excuse me, but can you help me?
I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago but
I don't know where I am," he said.

The man below replied: "You are in a hot air balloon
hovering approximately 30 ft above the ground.
You are between 40 and 41 degrees North latitude and
between 56 and 57 degrees West longitude."

To which the balloonist replied:
"You must be a broker." To which the man on the ground said:
"I am, but how did you know?"

The reply came from above: "Everything you told me is
technically correct but I have no idea what to make of your
information, and the fact is I'm still lost.
Frankly, you've not been much help so far."

The man below responded: "You must be a trader."
To which the balloonist replied: "Yes, I am, but how did you know?"

To which the man on the ground said: "You don't know where you
are or where you are going. You have risen to your current position
due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have
no idea how to keep and you expect me to solve your problem.
The fact is, you are in exactly the same position you were in
before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault."

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 20:56 | Report Abuse

mark, hehehe sampai sakit perut aku gelak hehehe funny!

kutpai my friend nak solat

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-24 21:28 | Report Abuse

hahaha bird so funny, the internet full of creative people, they can make jokes based on their personal experience, I have seen several verses, yup real funny

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-24 21:40 | Report Abuse

Pssst bird, I like your reply at the hibiscus forum.

No one can predict the market, stocks ups and downs, anyone who says can predict the market is a liar, only god can predict the market - I was taught by my lecturer to think that before I act, long time ago LOL

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 22:04 | Report Abuse

betul, kita hanya boleh merancang tuhan menentukan, dan aku tau TP Tessa RM1.50 sebab Tessa suka AllianceDBS, tapi aku TP RM2.00, sebab

1. nak bagi free warrants - aku fikir kalau nak bagi free warrants yang untung shareholders, majority shareholder pun dapat lagi banyak, so mesti majority shareholders macam Polo atau Dr Ken atau Abdah nak jual buat duit dari warrants tersebut, kita yang kecik ini boleh tumpang juga kan. so katalah warrant itu harga 0.90, harga sekarang ini mana la boleh makan kan, mesti ada up price nanti baru kenyang.

2. Sabah Oil - ini selesai mesti market lebih optimistic, partner ngan Petronas Carigali lagi kau, tu hebat kan, so price akan naik lagi

3. Bila semua dung dang dung dang, ramai minat beli Hibiscus, akan tambah foreign fund atau local fund nak masuk, naik price lagi

aku anggarkan personal tp RM2.00 tu boleh capai, jangan lupa tp donovan ang lagi tinggi, donovan chart nampak hibiscus boleh pergi jauh dari tp aku hehehe

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-24 22:11 | Report Abuse

itu hanya anggaran aku, aku tak suruh sape2 ikut pun, masing boleh buat anggaran sendiri, sekian buat malam ini

kutnaik and kutpai

Posted by Hot.T > 2018-02-24 22:22 | Report Abuse

couldn't agree more!!

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 22:22 | Report Abuse

ty ys, i will stick with donovan's tp 2.32,

as long raya can stay above 1.20, I'm good

Good night

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-24 22:23 | Report Abuse

hey bro T, hru?

Posted by Hot.T > 2018-02-24 23:06 | Report Abuse

am fine Mark!!surviving..kikiki

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 09:57 | Report Abuse

hottie, ada nampak FT, tak? rindu lak hehehe

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-25 11:51 | Report Abuse

https://donovan-ang.blogspot.my/2018/02/hibiscus-klse-5199-calculating-smart.html

Attached is the cards-counting approach applied on Hibiscus Petroleum in the calculation of Smart Money Tide's Average Holding Price and Projection of Tide's Target. Before we begin this approach, we would need certain assumption to be true: that the retailers often make up a fixed z% volume flow with a fixed y-std-deviation such that the volume flow can be stably in fixed proportion for smart monies in the market. With this in mind and the Pareto Principle in effect, the market volume can now be reasonably fixed as majority belonging to smart money tide without distortion of data from retailers' volumes (everything in fixed proportion).

click link to read more https://donovan-ang.blogspot.my/2018/02/hibiscus-klse-5199-calculating-smart.html

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 16:19 | Report Abuse

tessa, awak kenal ke orlando?

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 16:38 | Report Abuse

nope, why?

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 16:39 | Report Abuse

ingat kawan closed group awak

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 16:41 | Report Abuse

not that I know of

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 20:23 | Report Abuse

sama H, tapi 2 business yang berbeza

*Hibiscus Petroleum Berhad is Malaysia’s first listed independent oil and gas E&P company. It was listed on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad in July 2011. Hibiscus Petroleum is focused on the exploration, development and production of oil and gas fields in Europe, Australia, Middle East, and Southeast Asia regions.

*Hengyuan Refining Company Berhad refines, manufactures, and sells petroleum products in Malaysia. The company was formerly known as Shell Refining Company (Federation of Malaya) Berhad and changed its name to Hengyuan Refining Company Berhad in March 2017. The company was founded in 1960 and is based in Port Dickson, Malaysia. Hengyuan Refining Company Berhad is a subsidiary of Malaysia Hengyuan International Limited.

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 20:34 | Report Abuse

yup business lain though sector same, hibiscus business more of murphy oil business in malaysia

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 20:38 | Report Abuse

tu aku fikir kenapa ada yang compare business dua2 ini adik abang

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 20:42 | Report Abuse

maybe because dulu product shell, but sabah sarawak shell not same as shell in semenanjung, i ada kawan kerja sarawak shell dulu, he said not same, totally different though nama shell in it

Posted by Hot.T > 2018-02-25 20:49 | Report Abuse

YS..sori late reply. FT? no lah..lama x communicate dgn dia. Hitman ada ugak nampak here. anyway, will be fishing for bunga raya cc.

Posted by Oreo Oreo > 2018-02-25 22:12 | Report Abuse

cik babe dan kawan2, korang akan attend EGM Hibi tak?

Posted by Oreo Oreo > 2018-02-25 22:14 | Report Abuse

Hengyuan dgn Hibi,dua2nya sektor ONG, cuma hengyuan( downstream),Hibi(upstream) bukankah?

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 23:39 | Report Abuse

oreo, bangsar, thats a bit too far out of the way, are you going?

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-25 23:54 | Report Abuse

oreo, tak pergi, siang selalu busy, jaga cucu :)

apa jadi ngan hibiscus forum, sape yang dok gaduh situ, aku sampai X boleh baca hal hibiscus, so crowded ngan benda2 yang X berkaitan

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2018-02-25 23:56 | Report Abuse

idk, mark also headache hahaha

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-26 09:51 | Report Abuse

HIBISCS-CA: CW HIBISCUS PETROLEUM BERHAD (MIBB)

Type: CALL WARRANTS
Sector: INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS
Listing Date: Feb 13, 2018
Maturity Date: Nov 30, 2018
Issue Size: -
Exercise Price: MYR 1.00
Ratio: 2:1
Underlying Stock: HIBISCS
Avg Volume (4 weeks): 22,482,012
4 Weeks Range: 0.09 - 0.19
52 Weeks Range: 0.09 - 0.19

HIBISCS-CB: CW HIBISCUS PETROLEUM BERHAD (MIBB)

Type: CALL WARRANTS
Sector: INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS
Listing Date: Feb 13, 2018
Maturity Date: Nov 30, 2018
Issue Size: -
Exercise Price: MYR 1.20
Ratio: 2:1
Underlying Stock: HIBISCS
Avg Volume (4 weeks): 0
4 Weeks Range: 0.075 - 0.145
52 Weeks Range: 0.075 - 0.145

HIBISCS-CC: CW HIBISCUS PETROLEUM BHD (MACQ)

Type: CALL WARRANTS
Sector: INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS
Listing Date: Feb 15, 2018
Maturity Date: Sep 28, 2018
Issue Size: 70,000,000
Exercise Price: MYR 1.40
Ratio: 2.7:1
Underlying Stock: HIBISCS
Avg Volume (4 weeks): 58,738,883
4 Weeks Range: 0.075 - 0.135
52 Weeks Range: 0.075 - 0.135

Posted by Oreo Oreo > 2018-02-26 09:55 | Report Abuse

@cik babe and Tessa, not going also :( I have class on Thursday morning ,too bad.

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-26 10:05 | Report Abuse

What is the difference between a company warrant and a structured warrant?

Company warrants are call warrants issued by companies (with their own stock as the underlying) for the purpose of raising capital. There are no designated market makers for company warrants, and they are typically only suitable for longer term investment as liquidity is uncertain. They are often held until expiry.

SW are an investment tool issued by third-party financial instituitions (issuers) who are obliged to make continuous bid/offer prices in the warrant to ensure liquidity (i.e. To “make markets”). They are designed specifically as a short term investment tool and are usually not held to expiry.

Posted by Mark T Bird > 2018-02-26 10:08 | Report Abuse

Are warrants a ‘win-lose’ game? Does the issuer always profit when an investor loses, and vice versa?

No, warrants are not a ‘zero sum game’. The aim of the issuer is to make a profit on the risk management of the warrants sold, in doing so they also take on risk. When issuers sell warrants, they will normally buy shares or other derivatives to ‘hedge’ their positions and attempt to capture a margin whether the share price goes up or down.

For example, when an issuer sells a call warrant they will usually go into the underlying market and buy the shares to hedge themselves. Thus, if the share price increases, and investors profit on their call warrants, the issuer will also gain on their shareholding.

It is a common misunderstanding that issuers want investors to lose money. In fact, it is quite the opposite. If investors lose money, they will likely not trade warrants again, whereas if they profit from trading warrants they are more likely to continue trading and the market will grow.

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-26 10:17 | Report Abuse

Posted by Oreo Oreo > Feb 26, 2018 09:55 AM | Report Abuse

@cik babe and Tessa, not going also :( I have class on Thursday morning ,too bad.

answer : still studying, veri young

Posted by Cik Babe > 2018-02-26 10:19 | Report Abuse

Mark, ini bermaksud yang MAYBANK dan MACQ dah beli shares hibiscus. So bila awak punya CB X jalan awak boleh hentam MAYBANK