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Posted by 3iii > 2019-07-04 16:16 | Report Abuse

I re-read my comment at the bottom of this post.

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Stock: [HENGYUAN]: HENGYUAN REFINING CO BHD

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You all din notice one fact, OTB has turn bullish here. Previously he ask investor not to chase high, he recommended below 6 that time. When price went crazy fast and furious to 8 plus plus then crash towards 7, ppl kao hey, and he many times clarified he did not ask us to chase, it is our risk if chasing high.


But today Mr.Ooi has put his reputation and neck to chopping board and ask us to buy! You guys notice or not!

He said he has 70% of chances to win!

If a guy like raider, OTB, KYY can risk their few millions here and buy hengyuan even at this price, what you all still screaming??? The chances of getting wrong is miNimal to me!

This is once in a lifetime chance to be so sure to make money. No brainer yeah? If cashflows in tact, nothing to worry! Unless the cash is FAKE! Which I think very unlikely as hengyuan background, you gotta check! Own by who??<<<


Very sad to see such nonsense and rubbish being posted.

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-04 16:22 | Report Abuse

I thought at this point of time Hengyuan had not picked up to Rm 19.50 yet ??

Those who listen to paperlane advice would have make very good monies & would have left & gone long time ago loh....!!

Posted by 3iii > Jul 4, 2019 4:16 PM | Report Abuse

I re-read my comment at the bottom of this post.

WoW

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Stock: [HENGYUAN]: HENGYUAN REFINING CO BHD

Sep 29, 2017 7:35 AM | Report Abuse

>>> Posted by paperplane2016 > Sep 28, 2017 11:33 PM | Report Abuse

You all din notice one fact, OTB has turn bullish here. Previously he ask investor not to chase high, he recommended below 6 that time. When price went crazy fast and furious to 8 plus plus then crash towards 7, ppl kao hey, and he many times clarified he did not ask us to chase, it is our risk if chasing high.


But today Mr.Ooi has put his reputation and neck to chopping board and ask us to buy! You guys notice or not!

He said he has 70% of chances to win!

If a guy like raider, OTB, KYY can risk their few millions here and buy hengyuan even at this price, what you all still screaming??? The chances of getting wrong is miNimal to me!

This is once in a lifetime chance to be so sure to make money. No brainer yeah? If cashflows in tact, nothing to worry! Unless the cash is FAKE! Which I think very unlikely as hengyuan background, you gotta check! Own by who??<<<


Very sad to see such nonsense and rubbish being posted.

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2019-07-05 12:03 | Report Abuse

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-05 12:27 | Report Abuse

What if u compare with Pmbtech..?

Can u still boast leh ??

It easy to simply pick a lesser opponent & boast loh....!!

Posted by 3iii > Jul 5, 2019 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

http://icon8888.blogspot.com/2015/08/johore-tin-part-2.html#comment-fo...

An old post (7.8.2015) by icon8888 on DLady, F&N and Johotin. All in the same sector. From the post, he liked Johotin (from my reading of his post).

Let us compare the prices of these companies, then and today.

Company Price (7/8/2015) Price (5/7/2019)
DLady 47.10 64.00
F&N 18.50 34.70
Johotin 1.49 1.37

Since 7/8/2015 till today, Johotin has capital loss while those who bought DLady and F&N have capital gain.

Again, Buffett's simple rule serve as a good guide.

It is better to buy a wonderful company at a good price than a good company at a wonderful price.

Go for quality. There is a lot of margin of safety in the company and your investment if you stay with quality.

Avoid gruesome company.

Please google how Buffett classifies his companies into Great, Good and Gruesome companies to learn more.

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-05 12:46 | Report Abuse

Again as i say, as usual this 3iii chose a lesser opponent & then he can talk bad of value investment & boast loh....!!

Have faith loh...if u buy something for Rm 0.30 for a value of Rm 1.00 surely this is good investment principle logically loh...!!

Do not believe this conman 3iii loh...!!

I remember Calvin Tan this year challenge 3iii for a share investment fight but 3iii chicken out loh...!!

Posted by 3iii > Jul 5, 2019 12:37 PM | Report Abuse

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http://icon8888.blogspot.com/2015/08/innoprise-plantations-bhd-part-1....

Sunday, 2 August 2015
Innoprise Plantations (1)
The Cheapest Plantation Stock in Bursa Malaysia
Publish date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014, 02:58 PM

target price
due to its small market cap, we should ascribe a relatively low EV per ha of RM40,000 (big cap trades at EV per ha ranging from RM60,000 to RM100,000+).
Based on RM40,000 per ha, Innoprise's sustainable market cap works out to be RM40,000 x 13,000 ha = RM520m, or RM2.75 per share
This represents 55% upside from current price of RM1.76
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https://www.corporateinformation.com/Company-Snapshot.aspx?cusip=C4589...

Today this stock is 70 sen (Mkt Cap of 335.2 m)

Those who bought at 1.76 would have no gains but losses. They would have paid a high price for a rosy consensus.

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-05 13:17 | Report Abuse

If u gossip about stock, like title said, surely it is not that long term like u mah...!!
When u hit the target u already run mah....!!

Icon already make his monies on all these gossip stock loh..!!

Posted by 3iii > Jul 5, 2019 1:07 PM | Report Abuse

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Icon8888 Gossips About Stocks

Sunday, 2 August 2015
Ken Holdings (1)
Catch Them Young, Watch Them Grow
Publish date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014, 08:33 PM


Ken has 96 mil shares outstanding. Based on market price of RM2.20, existing market cap is RM211 mil.

Concluding Remarks

I find Ken interesting because of its small market cap, small revenue, small net profit and at the same time, has a reasonably decent management team and owner.

For the latest financial year, they reported net profit of RM21 mil only.

This level of profit is considered very small. Nowadays, a reasonable size property development project could easily generate hundreds of million of profit.

In addition, they have zero gearing. As such, there is potential to gear up in the future to acquire land bank and other income generating assets.

In my opinion, it shouldn't be difficult for them to double their net profit over next few years, thereby bringing market cap to a higher level.

Only for those who are patient and can wait for three, four years.

Have a nice evening.


3 and 4 years since this post, where is Ken today?


Today
Share price: 56 sen
Market Cap: 100,428,496
Shares Outstanding: 179,336,600

Posted by 3iii > Jul 5, 2019 1:11 PM | Report Abuse

I reviewed some of the early posts of icon8888 of August 2015 in his blog: Icon8888 Gossips About Stocks
http://icon8888.blogspot.com/2015/08/land-general.html


Except for Gadang, all the stocks he suggested/posted, etc, were gruesomely bad.

I have to change my perspective of icon8888's investing recommendations going forward.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 13:31 | Report Abuse

And ?

Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-05 13:42 | Report Abuse

Remember this loh...!!

Have faith loh...if u buy something for Rm 0.30 for a value of Rm 1.00 surely this is good investment principle logically loh...!!

Do not believe these conman Philip & 3iii loh...!!

Your good conservative parent, always taught u to buy something of value & not to overpay, and Insas is the the margin of safety investment your parent had been teaching u all this while loh...!!

Unless u r very rich and have alot of money to splurge, u must manage your monies conservatively in order to succeed & not overpay like QL and Nestle Pe 50x buy loh....!

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:12 | Report Abuse

btw OFI did a split

Idiot

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:14 | Report Abuse

4 for 1

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:21 | Report Abuse

My stockpicks are cyclical plays

Bought them when they are on the verge of breaking out

And sell when full potential is realised

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:33 | Report Abuse

innoprise was a profitable punt

Its profit increased as per my prediction

In 2016 it did a 2 : 1 split and 1 : 4 rights

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:39 | Report Abuse

Moron, Johore Tin did a massive split and bonus in September 2016 (2 for 1 followed by 1 for 3)

It made RM20 mil net profit when I called buy

In latest Q it’s net profit 11 mil per quarter without exceptional items


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Posted by 3iii > Jul 5, 2019 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

http://icon8888.blogspot.com/2015/08/johore-tin-part-2.html#comment-fo...

An old post (7.8.2015) by icon8888 on DLady, F&N and Johotin. All in the same sector. From the post, he liked Johotin (from my reading of his post).

Let us compare the prices of these companies, then and today.

Company Price (7/8/2015) Price (5/7/2019)
DLady 47.10 64.00
F&N 18.50 34.70
Johotin 1.49 1.37


Since 7/8/2015 till today, Johotin has capital loss while those who bought DLady and F&N have capital gain.


Again, Buffett's simple rule serve as a good guide.

It is better to buy a wonderful company at a good price than a good company at a wonderful price.

Go for quality. There is a lot of margin of safety in the company and your investment if you stay with quality.

Avoid gruesome company.


Please google how Buffett classifies his companies into Great, Good and Gruesome companies to learn more.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:41 | Report Abuse

I bought three lorries of Johore tin warrants at 18 Sen, few months later sold them at 80 Sen

You have no idea what you talking about

Go search johoretin thread, it was properly documented there

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:42 | Report Abuse

Take your Buffett and shove it up your axx

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:45 | Report Abuse

Mudajaya is a flop, I admit it

Nobody can be 100% correct all the time

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:47 | Report Abuse

Because recently I am busy watching Japanese series




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My blog 22 mil page view

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That was a lot of page views.

Then you suddenly stopped posting in your blog.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 14:49 | Report Abuse

Ken profit declined following industry downtrend over the years

But there was ample warnings, I exited in an orderly manner with negligible losses

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 15:05 | Report Abuse

My comments about Johotin warrants

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/icon8888/82007.jsp


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Icon8888 your cost is even lower than me

mine is 18 sen

bought 3 months ago
27/08/2015 9:37 AM

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 15:38 | Report Abuse

What is your point ? Don't get it

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 15:44 | Report Abuse

What do you mean collapse to 76 Sen ? LOL

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 16:31 | Report Abuse

Do you know how to count or not ? For innoprise, 2 for 1 share split followed by 1 for 4 two call rights at 38 Sen

Ex all price = (4 x 1.76) + (8 x 0) + (3 x 0.38) / (4 + 8 + 3) = 8.38 / 15 = 0.55

In early 2017, it went back up to 1.50

Gain = 172%

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 16:32 | Report Abuse

Please get your facts correct

I don't mind debating based on facts

But I am tired of debating based on wrong numbers

You are wasting my time rubbish in rubbish out

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 16:34 | Report Abuse

https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/chart/6262.jsp

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 16:36 | Report Abuse

Go to the chart, click ALL

And zoom in at the period 2016 and 2017

And you will know what I said was correct

Posted by 3iii > 2019-07-05 17:44 | Report Abuse

Innoprise


Prices adjusted for capital changes

YEAR ADJ PX RANGE(RM)

2014 … 0.64 - 0.95
2015 … 0.54 - 0.74
2016 … 0.55 - 1.27
2017 … 1.05 - 1.5
2018 … 0.61 - 1.21
2019 … 0.61 - 0.81


Today's price 70 sen

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 17:53 | Report Abuse

I called for buy in 2014 (lets say 0.95)

in 2017 it went up to 1.50

if subsequently CPO price softened and you didn't sell, you have yourself to blame loh

Moron Buffett......

Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-05 17:54 | Report Abuse

I cooked you a meal, and you are now blaming me that I didn't spoon feed you....

sad lah you....

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Posted by 3iii > 2019-07-08 10:56 | Report Abuse

A good company deserves a higher valuation. It is possible that you paid a slightly higher price than you wanted to pay for the stock, which lowers your overall rate of return, but time is on your side and your long holding time minimizes the impact of the higher purchase price to your overall return. Also, you will always find the opportunity to add to your position at lower valuations, though not necessarily at lower prices.


Deep value investing investors need to be cautious and aware of this approach's inherent problems. Those companies dropping and appearing in the deep-bargain screener probably deserved to be traded by low valuations. Their stock prices were likely low for the right reasons, and buying these would likely have resulted in steep losses.

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Posted by 3iii > 2019-07-08 15:58 | Report Abuse

http://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2010/08/cyclical-versus-non-cyclical-stocks.html?m=1


Know this chart and you will understand the challenges of cyclical stocks.

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Smart investors managed risk

Foolish investors avoid risk

(Howard Marks)