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Do you think these shares will rise so much if prominent investor don't promote it?
There are 4 shares highlighted below. I will comment each of it. Do you think the share prices will go up by itself if the prominent investor just buy it without informing anyone in KLSE i3 / blog / Facebook? In anyway, prominent investor action will always affect share prices on short term basis. Those who follow him earlier on may get some profit if they know to sell it ontime. But I believe the majority already enter at the end stage and during that time he is featured in BFM radio as well. This action makes no difference when compared to stock brokers.
Can One: Famous for huge debt and speculation of want to sell this and that. Do notice sharp increase from Sep 2015 until early Jan 2016. If not because heavily promoted and speculation of selling Kian Joo, do you think it will rise so fast? The profit made by this company is not record breaking and not great as well to justify the rocket high price. Now there is speculation of selling F&B nutrition, since Canone has huge debt, will Canone reward its investor if F&B nutrition sold to KWAP? Of course they need to cover their debt first. Historically, the dividend from this counter is quite low as well. This prominent investor mentioned this counter price is worth RM8.00.
Latitute Tree: In 2015, it was a record year for them with almost double profit compared to years before. The price should rise but it has risen too much.
Xingquan: This is China company counter. I am puzzled as to why he recommended this share. A lot of bla bla bla from him such as he knew someone who did the audited reports. From the track record of all the China based counter in Bursa are bad. From the chart, you can see that this stock is on consistent down trending. However, due to his mention, the stock rose a bit between Jan 2015 until Dec 2015. During the time he admited his mistake (Dec 2015), the stock price went further south. Pity to those who brought at RM0.50. Its now RM0.30.
Geshen: From the chart, it looks like a pump and dump kind of stock. Although the company did make improvement, but huge share dump after the quarterly result out. The prominent investor teaches people to dump their shares if the performance is not increasing quarter on quarter. So, if you wait until quarterly result out, then your share value will reduce by 20%. However, he didn't tell people that some companies performance is based on cycle and seasonality. Geshen for example, usually don't have good result on 4th quarter of the year. Although if compared with same quarter last year, its still perform better. This proved that this share price has been push up too much and it drop to its fair value. I don't know when it will climb back to RM2.80 :-P
Again, beware of his advise, especially to newbies. He is rich, so no problem with margin. Not everyone is like him. Its a risky action. What if take margin to buy share and suddenly market crash? We already in the second longest bull run in the history. Usually every 10 years, there will be one cycle of market crash correction. We never know when it will crash again. We know that the share price will eventually rise, but the question is after crash or drop, how long it will take to recover? If you can take the risk then go ahead. If not then always think twice and don't use margin. Always buy stock using your own money. Don't even think about borrowing.
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each of the above shares ( except for the China company ) had earnings growth last year and compelling reasons to buy and hold for the period of its earnings rise......especially if you can catch them in the beginning of the rally.
if you can buy a share and see its earnings grow 100%, 200%, 300% and hold it throughout its run and buy it in sufficient quantities to make a difference. ....that is the stuffs of champions.
2016-05-08 00:46
Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > May 8, 2016 12:09 AM | Report Abuse
I did not promote any stock in I3 for last 6 months.
I know what I am doing in my job. I do not help anyone.
I am a honest businessman, I cannot disclose a lot of information here. As long I do not cheat any reader in I3, I do not feel any guilty I had done in I3.
I stop here, I do not need to defend me here.
Thank you.
I am a honest businessman (this is oredi your biggest damn lie, or a joke?)
So would u feel guilty to ask yr RM960 clients to buy high so that u can sell high for your VVIP n VIP clients and get 10% profit sharing? Dont u see this is a conflict of interest???
2016-05-08 06:41
why dont the retailers sell the stocks owned by kyy and stop buying their recommended stocks
lets watch how the share price react
2016-05-08 08:55
Murali. I think he has act very very fairly. He treats VVIP, VIP, normal subscribers really really equality. All because he is a very 'honest' businessman. I trust he does so. In reality(business context), it is such myth exist of treating all clients equally without any priority? If you really do the business before you would know la. Haha
2016-05-08 09:23
The point is if prominent investor can announce buy but why not when disposed? If announcement when he buy can cause the share price to rise but why not if he dispose will cause the price to drop? Why only causing up can but down can't? Same as financial result announcement as well. If good then it will gap up and gap down if bad. The company cannot hide their financial result forever of bad. It's a norm that investors need to face this kind of short term volatility.
2016-05-08 10:46
analysts whole wide world is not allow to trade in stocks, as analysts issue buy or sell report. there is conflict of interest
same with investors here, when you buy big and recommend the stocks to everyone, there is same conflict of interest
retailers shud sell kyy stocks and stay away from his recommendations
be street smart
2016-05-08 10:55
If he operate a trust fund then we can't deny that his role is seen to be transparent without confilct of interest. The Action must louder than words. No mater how you twist and turn, you role is still apparently compromised ...we are not born yesterday. There are many old birds here....
2016-05-08 11:31
Eventually it turns out u are not stock god but stock con,n they are not stupid idiots...
2016-05-08 11:35
Conclusion of kyy hooohaaaaa...he should announce his disposal 1 week before his action. He should announce his buying 1 week before he is buying...if he can do this ...I pay respect to him...else he is conman
2016-05-08 11:44
What worst about this prominent investor is he encourage people to take margin financing. This is in directly encourage people to buy his recommended stocks to push up the price. The consequence of this is he become richer from people who buy stocks using margin financing. But the poor and newbies become poorer as the result of losing money as they stock price goes down or stay flat if they purchase near the top. He is evil covered by the name of doing charity. Can you do charity sincere a bit and don't use the money that you get from stock market to do charity? If no money, then don't do charity la. Why need to chase for popularity when doing charity?
2016-05-08 14:32
Thanks ah boon for this article. At least the newbies can beware of this and be more wise. Good job.
You are doing great as you do explain and not just putting an idea through.
2016-05-08 19:28
morally it's wrong to ask people to buy when you are selling. what's important "caveat emptor " Buyers beware and do their homework not follow blindly the seller word of mouth
Money flow is equally important (if not) the shraes will be value rich but moribound interms of pricing. This is my personal view
2016-05-09 11:07
But who care about morals nowadays? If our leaders care about morals there would be no 1MDB.
2016-05-09 13:09
True also....old man can con young man can con..rich man can con poor man can coon...chinese can con malay can con...everybody can con...
2016-05-09 13:16
whether your intention is truthful or otherwise,
never teach people to make FAST money but advise them to make money slow and steady. sometimes slow can be faster then what your dictionary tells you
never teach people to use margin , teach YOURSELF ONLY,
not everything good to you is good to others, unless you are willing to compensate him for his loss. if not shut up
do not scold people stupid do not know to sell when the price is good because he good good follows you words but you diam diam sold a big portion already
so what to do ?
learn my strategy of survival in this buaya market free of charge
my recommendation of the day ,
BUY GADANG AND KIMLUN NOW AND BE PREPARED TO KEEP FOR 2 YEARS.
do not look at the price , if you look , you die,but read the quarter reports and what others people said about gadang and kimlun,esp what I said,
very boring ?
never mind , start dreaming.....
you and your happy wife enjoying the Alaska Deep sea cruising in the deep blue sea .
but do not forget to sell all kimkun and gadang before you go because my fortune telling power is safe and accurate for the most 2 years only.
2016-05-09 13:23
Koon bee got heavy position on kim lun...price oredi up a lot..sifu asked people to buy this uptrending stock everyday...specially highlighted....
2016-05-09 13:26
If you're going to buy construction. you are better off buying Eversendai, Sycal or AWC. There is at least some margin of safety (not to be confused with buying on margin).
I'm generally not too enamoured with construction counters, due to lack of earning visibility, low net margin and rampant corruption.
2016-05-09 13:31
Watch out for Focus Lumber. It's drops on heavy volume. Don't catch the falling knife. It may reach 3 millions volume today. Possibility large holder dumping. Look at the historical quarterly results. Q1 is a weaker quarter for Focus lumber.
2016-05-09 13:33
but if you want fast money, then try tekseng loh..now very hot
may be enough to bring you happy wife to bangkok river cruise
2016-05-09 13:34
Kyy not interested in construction co?why u talk like otb one...koon founded gamuda/ijm/mudajaya....
2016-05-09 13:34
I talk like otb meh....
Wa!!!!!
i didn't know I can talk like super sifu now ......
improvement comes quietly.....
2016-05-09 13:38
Otb also said koon doesnt like construction stocks one...n otb said he never lie in i3 one...
2016-05-09 13:40
ah boon,
you don't scare me lah...
I got quite a lot of flbhd ....
how ?
sell or hold
paying good dividend wor.....
2016-05-09 13:42
There will always be dumb people. I like to call it knowledge arbitrage. The gap between the smart/cunning brain and the dumb/naive brain. This causes money to seep from the pockets of the latter to the former.
This also explains the ridiculous number of medical colleges and exorbitant fees dumb Malaysian parents will pay for a lousy tertiary education.
A dumb/naive brain will always be one, no matter what university this dumb/naive brain attends, sadly. This is Malaysia style-e maaaa...
2016-05-09 13:42
arv18<
what happen to you
why say like that
sounds like a newbie
if not newbie, then must be not seasoned enough
2016-05-09 13:50
arv18,
...but how do you know? Do I know you?..
from this "fact" i can deduce , you are girl
right?
2016-05-09 14:04
I could very well be, bisexual, biracial, gay or transgender. But what relevance is it?
Is an intelligent statement uttered by an 8-year old, less intelligent than the same statement uttered by an 80-year old?
You are going a long way to proving my point about Malaysians. Thank you sir! :)
2016-05-09 14:14
of course need kaki goring...
refer this sharing...
how syndicate goreng stock
http://aimthebull.blogspot.my/2016/04/process-of-how-syndicate-stock.html
2016-05-09 14:17
@pisanggoreng I don't provide buy, hold or sell recommendation. Based on the available data and facts, I believe you can make better decision.
2016-05-09 14:42
well said ah_boon. i3investor.com provides a very good aggregation service for Malaysian stocks. It doesn't cost anything, just some time. Use it.
2016-05-09 15:04
arv18,
relax....
what's wrong I tell the truth what I feel ?
anything wrong ?
anything to prove?
2016-05-09 15:24
Both focus lumber and liihen fall on heavy volume today. It's signalling big player already starting to pull out. Canone near the support level of RM4. Once break, it will fall on heavy volume as well. Klci close lower like heading to 1600.
2016-05-09 22:05
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