THE INVESTMENT APPROACH OF CALVIN TAN

10 George Soros Quotes on Investing, Additional comments by Calvin Tan Research

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Hi Guys,

I have An Investment Approach I which I would like to all.

Hi guys,

 

While i read up some comments in Jaks forum I noticed one forumer quoted George Soros.

It is always good to learn some new stuff everyday. And also to get some old truth re enforced as well.

And I have some comments to add further:

 

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10 George Soros Quotes on Investing

known as “The Man Who Broke the Bank of England.” He earned this title in 1992, when he (famously) made more than a billion dollars selling-short the pound sterling. He is the co-founder and manager of the Quantum Endowment Fund, an international hedge fund with more than $27 billion in assets under management. Soros survived as a young jew, living in Nazi-occupied Hungary in 1944. He then immigrated to England to attend the London School of Economics, and moved to the US in 1956 to work as a stock broker. Today, Soros is a passionate investor, philanthropist, and democratic idealist who could teach us a lot about investing and philosophy. Here are ten very insightful quotes from him:

1. “If investing is entertaining, if you’re having fun, you’re probably not making any money. Good investing is boring.” – As I discussed in this article, personal emotions have no place in investing. If you want to be successful in the long-run, base your investment decisions on rationality and discipline.

2. “I’m only rich because I know when I’m wrong…I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes.” – Almost every successful investor that I’ve written about knows this. That is, you must recognize and admit your mistakes when you make them, cut your losses short, and move on to the next logical step.

3. “The financial markets generally are unpredictable. So that one has to have different scenarios… The idea that you can actually predict what’s going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market.” – Successful traders abide by this philosophy by heart. Markets truly are random and no one knows where, when, and how prices will move. The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

4. “Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux, and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.” – Since markets are random, anything can happen, even the “unexpected.” The biggest opportunities lie in those unexpected events because most people are betting on the obvious, and in the market, most people are wrong.

5. “The worse a situation becomes, the less it takes to turn it around, and the bigger the upside.” – This is true in life as well as in investing. When you hit rock-bottom, every inch of improvement feels so much better and powerful. If you bought Goldman Sachs (GS) in the midst of the subprime crisis in 2009, you could’ve made more than thrice your money just a year after.

6. “Stock market bubbles don’t grow out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, but reality as distorted by a misconception.” – Stock market bubbles start with good corporate or economic fundamentals. Things just go out of hand when people’s misguided greed comes into play.

7. “I contend that financial markets never reflect the underlying reality accurately; they always distort it in some way or another and the distortions find expression in market prices.” – Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.

8. “Unfortunately, the more complex the system, the greater the room for error.” – Obviously, when it comes to investing, Soros like to KISS (keep it simple, silly). He built a financial empire by adhering to this basic principle, and so should you. A simple but effective investing system will always beat the crap out of a complex system that doesn’t work.

9. “Making an investment decision is like formulating a scientific hypothesis and submitting it to a practical test. The main difference is that the hypothesis that underlies an investment decision is intended to make money and not to establish a universally valid generalization.” – The simple goal of investing is to make money, not to be right all the time. As a trader, I abide by this mantra and it makes it easy for me to accept losses easily and to stick to my investing plan.

10. “We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals. Therefore, we tend to stabilize rather than destabilize the market. We are not doing this as a public service. It is our style of making money.” – Again, like Warren Buffet, Soros enters markets based on valuations. He buys when prices are “low” and sells when they are “high,” thereby effectively catching trend reversals.

If you look at these quotes, you can see that Soros has very similar investment philosophies with Warren Buffet. I guess great minds really do think alike, so let’s adapt these principles into our own investing to get some kick-ass results.

Calvin comments:

1. “If investing is entertaining, if you’re having fun, you’re probably not making any money. Good investing is boring.”

VERY TRUE. IN INVESTING MOST OF THE TIME IS VERY BORING INDEED! WHEN JAKS WAS ONLY 40 SEN FEW PEOPLE WERE IN JAKS FORUM THEN.

ANOTHER VERY BORING STOCK WAS PM CORP IN YEARS 2010 to 2012. FOR ALMOST 2 LONG YEARS PM CORP WAS TRADED AT 9 SEN DAY IN DAY OUT!

REALLY BORING THEN. TILL ONE DAY PM CORP POWERED TO 36 SEN AND UP 300%

2. “I’m only rich because I know when I’m wrong…I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes.” –

YES. IT SAYS, "HE WHO FIGHTS AND RUN AWAY WILL LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY"

UNCLE KYY RUN AWAY FROM MUDAJAYA & JTIASA AT PEAK PRICES OF RM2.70 & RM2.60. BUT MADE A HUGE BLUNDER IN XINQUAN UNTIL IT "SAU TONG".  NOW HE IS WISE TO SLOWLY GET OUT OF JAKS.

3. “The financial markets generally are unpredictable. So that one has to have different scenarios… The idea that you can actually predict what’s going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market.” – Successful traders abide by this philosophy by heart. Markets truly are random and no one knows where, when, and how prices will move. The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

YES AND NO

YES BECAUSE CALVIN MADE A SILLY MISTAKE THINK BN MIGHT STILL WIN BUY A REDUCED MAJORITY. 

YES. TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE AS FOCUS SHIFT UP TO LANGKAWI, PENANG & KEDAH NEW GOLDEN TRIANGLE DUE TO PH STALWARTS HOMEGROUND

NO. BECAUSE UNDER NORMAL TIMES COMPANIES WITH MOAT, SUPERIOR EDGE AND IN GROWING INDUSTRIES SHOULD ALWAYS DO OK. AND THESE STOCKS ARE PREDICTABLE- MCDONALD, APPLE, WAL MART, GEICO INSURANCE & COCA COLA

 

4. “Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux, and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.” – Since markets are random, anything can happen, even the “unexpected.” The biggest opportunities lie in those unexpected events because most people are betting on the obvious, and in the market, most people are wrong.

I LIKE POINT NO. 4

(((money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.”)))

ALWAYS LOOK BEYOND THE OBVIOUS: SEE BEYOND THE SURFACE: LOOK BEYOND THE NOW

UNFORTUNATELY THE MAJORITY ONLY INVEST IN ONLY WHAT IS "OBVIOUS". SO IF EVERYONE IS BUYING AT THE SAME TIME - PRICE IS NO LONGER CHEAP. IN FACT MOST PROBABLY DUE TO POPULAR CONSENSUS & CONFIDENCE MOST ARE OVER PAYING

5. “The worse a situation becomes, the less it takes to turn it around, and the bigger the upside.” – This is true in life as well as in investing. When you hit rock-bottom, every inch of improvement feels so much better and powerful. If you bought Goldman Sachs (GS) in the midst of the subprime crisis in 2009, you could’ve made more than thrice your money just a year after.

CORRECT! 

CLAP!

CLAP!!

CLAP!!!

WHEN VALUE STOCK CRASHES TO ROCK BOTTOM - THE FUTURE UPSIDE IS GREAT! BUT BOTTOM FISHING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. IT IS A LONESOME PLACE AND TOTALLY BOMBED OUT AND MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AVOID IT.

 

6. “Stock market bubbles don’t grow out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, but reality as distorted by a misconception.” – Stock market bubbles start with good corporate or economic fundamentals. Things just go out of hand when people’s misguided greed comes into play.

CORRECT LOH

A GOOD STOCK WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT BUT EUPHORIA TOOK OVER AND IT MOVES FROM VALUE INVESTING INTO SPECULATING. AND THE NOISES DISTORT IT FURTHER TILL ALL GONE MAD!

 

7. “I contend that financial markets never reflect the underlying reality accurately; they always distort it in some way or another and the distortions find expression in market prices.” – Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.

WELL SAID

(((Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.)))

Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset

THUMBS UP!!

 

8. “Unfortunately, the more complex the system, the greater the room for error.” – Obviously, when it comes to investing, Soros like to KISS (keep it simple, silly). He built a financial empire by adhering to this basic principle, and so should you. A simple but effective investing system will always beat the crap out of a complex system that doesn’t work.

KEEP IT SIMPLE:

WARREN BUFFET INVESTED 

SOFT DRINKS - COCA COLA

CHOCOLATES - SEE'S CANDY

CHEWING GUM - WRIGLEY CHEWING GUM

BURGERS - MCDONALD

ALL SIMPLE STUFF

 

9. “Making an investment decision is like formulating a scientific hypothesis and submitting it to a practical test. The main difference is that the hypothesis that underlies an investment decision is intended to make money and not to establish a universally valid generalization.” – The simple goal of investing is to make money, not to be right all the time. As a trader, I abide by this mantra and it makes it easy for me to accept losses easily and to stick to my investing plan.

NO COMMENT

 

10. “We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals. Therefore, we tend to stabilize rather than destabilize the market. We are not doing this as a public service. It is our style of making money.” – Again, like Warren Buffet, Soros enters markets based on valuations. He buys when prices are “low” and sells when they are “high,” thereby effectively catching trend reversals.

If you look at these quotes, you can see that Soros has very similar investment philosophies with Warren Buffet. I guess great minds really do think alike, so let’s adapt these principles into our own investing to get some kick-ass results.

THIS ONE VERY GOOD

(((“We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals)))

“We try to catch new trends early

WE TRY TO CATCH NEW TRENDS EARLY"

BN GOVT NOW OVER

PH GOVT NOW IN CHARGE

THE POLICIES & CHANGES IN COMING DAYS AND MONTHS WILL SET NEW DIRECTIONS FOR THE MARKETS

SO WATCH CAREFULLY WHAT & WHY THEY IMPLEMENT

AND MORE NEW TRENDS WILL EMERGE

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

 

BEST REGARDS

Calvin Tan Research

Singapore

 

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FamousAmos

Tan End, soros also said
“It's not whether you're right or wrong, but how much money you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong.”

How much u made in ur Jaks and how much u lost it all in Perisai , WTK, Alam, Bonia, Majuperak? What’s ur average buying cost and average selling price ? How many lots did u buy ?

Don’t talk cock la!

2018-08-11 21:30

cheoky

Great sharing datuk

2018-08-11 23:21

calvintaneng

Ng Shu Tsung, PureBULL ., SS Loh

Hi guys,

Thanks for clicking likes

Yes Sifu PureBULL

Always nice to read your Blogs

2018-08-12 11:22

calvintaneng

These are 3 Good Stocks with New Catalysts

GUH BHD
GUH at 64 Sen with NTA of Rm1.87 is selling at a Huge 66% Discount which is twice the margin of safety required by Ben Graham

Now with US & China in trade war GUH printed circuit boards should do well as it supplies to KOrean & Japanese Businesses like National Panasonic.

The removal of GST should also augur well for sales of Goods like Washing Machine, Aircond & Refrigerations which use PCB (printed circuit boards)

But the Main Catalysts will be GUH’s 3 Very Prime Plots of Lands in Kedah (one) and Penang Mainland (two)

The Big Guns of new PH Govt are in the New Northern Golden Triangle of

LANGKAWI (Tun Dr Mahathir is MP)

KEDAH (Datuk Mukhriz is MP)

PENANG (Both Finance Minister Lim Guan Eng (former Chief Minister of Penang) & Anwar Ibrahim from Permatang Pauh)

SO THE WIND OF DEVELOPMENTS WILL NOW BLOW HERE. So fortunate is GUH as it will be launching New Housing Projects here early next year.

Another New Growth Factor is the NEW IKEA IN BATU KAWAN….to be folowed by a New Water Theme Park.

So GUH is expected to see a Turn of Fortune.

A check with GUH Accounts showed it is in a Net Cash Position

Its Properties already undervalue will Be Revalued again every 5 years. And that is very near. It should be revalued by December 2018 (as they were last revalued in December 2013, 5 years ago)

NO WONDER SAVVY VALUE INVESTORS LIKE

YEOMAN of SINGAPORE has Increased its shareholdings (Pls refer to Annual Report of GUH 2017)

Coming in at no. 5 DB (Malaysia) Nominee (Asing) Sdn Bhd
Deutsche Bank AG Singapore for YEOMAN 3-Rights Value Asia Fund (PTSL)…….. 8,500,000 shares at 3.10%



This is an improvement of Yeoman’s stake from Year 2016

5. DB (Malaysia) Nominee (Asing) Sdn. Bhd.
Deutsche Bank AG Singapore For Yeoman 3-Rights Value Asia Fund (PTSL)
7,000,000….. 2.65%

In year 2016 Yeoman has 7 millions GUH shares and it increased its shareholdings to 8.5 millions or up another 1.5 million shares

THIS IS THE CORRECT APPROACH

As price gets cheaper Value can only get better.

So a Great Bargain now!



2) HEXZA

Another Cash Rich Company with Good Dividend. And its business is defensive. Only set back was the default of Bad debt from rental payment in Myanmar.

This is a One-off and won’t happen again. Since price already adjusted downward its downside will be very limited while its dividend yield by percentage improved.

Another BIG BOOSTER is HEXZA supplies resin for Plywood Manufacturers. With the Banning of Logs Export in Sabah & cessation of further logging license in Sarawak Plywood Companies are expected to ramp up productions both in Sabah & Sarawak. This will boost usage of Resin from Hexza.



3) CSCSTEEL

CSCSTEEL is another Cash Rich Company with good dividends

Primarily in Cold Roil Steel production.

It supplies steel sheets to Proton, Perodua & other Car Manufacturing Companies to make Bonnets, Roofs, Doors & Other Flat steel products.

With GST removed the demand for TV panel, Bed Metal Frame (Furniture), Fridge & Fridge Door, Washing machine, Electric Oven will improve. All these are made from Flat Steel Products from CSCSTEEL.

And even more Catalyst will come when Geely starts production in Tanjung Malim PLUS the Possible Setting Up of a 3rd National Car as proposede by Tun Dr Mahathir



So these are the ones

GUH for its superb landbanks & factories in Penang new Boom Zone
HEXZA for its upcoming good Resin sales
CSCSTEEL for the overall improvement of Consumer sentiments
Please buy/sell after doing you own due diligence



WARM REGARDS

Calvin Tan Research

Singapore

2018-08-12 16:49

calvintaneng

3) CSCSTEEL

CSCSTEEL is another Cash Rich Company with good dividends

Primarily in Cold Roil Steel production.

It supplies steel sheets to Proton, Perodua & other Car Manufacturing Companies to make Bonnets, Roofs, Doors & Other Flat steel products.

With GST removed the demand for TV panel, Bed Metal Frame (Furniture), Fridge & Fridge Door, Washing machine, Electric Oven will improve. All these are made from Flat Steel Products from CSCSTEEL.

And even more Catalyst will come when Geely starts production in Tanjung Malim PLUS the Possible Setting Up of a 3rd National Car as proposede by Tun Dr Mahathir

My friend the Awning Boss said that Astino bought flat steel from CSCSteel to manufacture Roofing materials

2018-08-12 20:19

VenFx

The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

ME: I TRULLY BEEN THROUGH THE ABOVE PHRASE NO.3 ,,,


THX DATO CALVIN... this quotes very usefully.

2018-08-13 12:47

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