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Probability | Joined since 2014-03-18

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Probability is a measure of 'likeliness' that an event will occur - there are no 100% certainty.

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2023-08-30 18:41 | Report Abuse

YTLP was actually not even correcting if not because of YTL which was intentionally brought down for the married deal (70M) transaction at 1.57...

the fundamentals are simply too strong for YTLP

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2023-08-30 16:56 | Report Abuse

wow...interesting

Posted by pang72 > Aug 30, 2023 4:53 PM | Report Abuse

Foreign fund bought up 60 to 70mils shares last 5 mins

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2023-08-29 14:15 | Report Abuse

unlike hng33 who will give super promoting comments as if he will hold in to next 3 years and the next day he will sell and come out with negative comments...anyway, everyone have different strategies...no right or wrong in stock market...its up to them how they survive...

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2023-08-29 14:12 | Report Abuse

of course he is also very cunning and will sell when he promotes too hard...lol! but thats ok...

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2023-08-29 14:10 | Report Abuse

once he sold the stocks he never criticize it and is also very gentle in his words / comments...he is super sharp...and have reasonable ethics..and make the forum lively with funny comments..

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2023-08-29 14:08 | Report Abuse

sifu pang72 is one of the best or the best forumer in i3....

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2023-08-26 15:31 | Report Abuse

i think there is going to be EV vehicles explosion in the market, energy demand is going to skyrocket both in Singapore and Malaysia...

and Renewable energy is the theme for the next 10 years...

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2023-08-26 14:10 | Report Abuse

can someone do a very conservative valuation of MBMR purely based on FY2023 earnings of Perodua (at 20% stake) with the same PER valuation given to UMW by SIME?

i could not find out what exactly was Perodua's earnings for last year

https://www.statista.com/statistics/949523/perodua-profit/

https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/680129

It noted that the offer values UMW at 13.3 times financial year 2024 (FY2024) price-to-earnings ratio, which is at a slight premium to UMW’s five-year historical mean of 12.9 times and at 1.3 times FY2023’s book value.

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2023-08-25 16:53 | Report Abuse

the support is extremely strong.....

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2023-08-25 16:52 | Report Abuse

true..those who hold tight..well done! selling while having dragon328's genuine advising would be a dumb move

Posted by troy88 > Aug 25, 2023 4:48 PM | Report Abuse

Cunning operator and sharks ate up bilis for breakfast with sell on news scare tactics..

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2023-08-25 13:23 | Report Abuse

RM 2 by next week - most likely

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2023-08-24 21:54 | Report Abuse

yup, the going forward powerseraya contribution you calculated is exactly as i thought...dividend 15 cents per annum should be easily achievable

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2023-08-24 21:51 | Report Abuse

thanks dragon328, its amazing how fast you could come up with such a write up after the results out today....

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2023-08-24 19:16 | Report Abuse

pang72 cakap memang betui! pinky too...

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2023-08-24 17:15 | Report Abuse

yup...we wait for sifu dragon328 to comment on both YTL and YTLP

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2023-08-24 17:12 | Report Abuse

YTL dividend beats YTLP

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2023-08-24 12:06 | Report Abuse

you said results today earlier and said invitation was sent yday...

Posted by BursaMaster121212 > Aug 23, 2023 11:16 PM | Report Abuse

tomorrow will report very strong results.

Rebecca Yeoh had just send out invitation to all the fund manager....prepare for celebration

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2023-08-21 19:42 | Report Abuse

@dragon328, thanks..i had the same thinking from the info you had been sharing earlier and now i am even more aligned with you thoughts...thanks

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2023-08-21 17:06 | Report Abuse

@dragon328, comparing YTLP with YTL at current pricing and prospect you see, which stock will you put more weightage?

you are free to say you dont know as i know it can be a difficult answer..he he

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2023-08-21 10:29 | Report Abuse

he he..its always fun seeing pang72 comments..

Posted by pang72 > Aug 21, 2023 10:16 AM | Report Abuse

Sudah tak tahu mahu cakap apa!!
Salam kepada semua winner...

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2023-08-09 16:14 | Report Abuse

you need to add fuel cost and supply tightness (or demand) into the factors affecting margin, not including hedging and long term contracts they may have...

Posted by cgtan2020 > Aug 9, 2023 4:10 PM | Report Abuse

Anyone doing detail analysis of the USEP Q to Q and see how YTLP power Seraya Q to Q profits correlate to each other? @xiaochen @hng33 @dragon328

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2023-08-09 15:47 | Report Abuse

natural gas price has come down a lot and last quarter earnings was not based on such cheap fuel cost (as they had hedged in advance)...

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas

using current fuel cost, even at wholesale price of 167Mwh will be extremely profitable

Powerseraya margin is derived from its competitive advantage against other power gen, as long as there is high demand, it will continue to make significant profits...nothing to do with fuel cost or wholesale energy price which is automatically taken care by competitors

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2023-08-08 16:51 | Report Abuse

1.55 , 2M plus shares sapu...interesting

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2023-07-31 22:24 | Report Abuse

The Energy Market Authority (EMA) is inviting proposals to build, own and operate a gas-fired power plant for operations by 2028, it said in a statement on July 31

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/news/singapore-energy-market/ema-seeks-bid-new-power-plant-introduces-minimum-net-worth-electricity

this means the current gas-fired power plant electricity producers will remain highly profitable for next 5 years at the minimum and beyond to justify such new investment

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2023-07-21 15:05 | Report Abuse

ok dragon328, thanks

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2023-07-21 12:27 | Report Abuse

ok hng33..thanks

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2023-07-21 12:15 | Report Abuse

@dragon328 or @hng33, may be can check out with management why the YTL corp in Japan exchange had shot up over 35% within last 3 days.....

i believe all the while it was matching Bursa price earlier

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2023-07-20 13:21 | Report Abuse

yup, dragon328 is a gem

just sharing some old news (2007) to see YTL management view earlier on listing

https://www.reuters.com/article/ytl-listing-idUKKLR31301220070313


KUALA LUMPUR, March 13 (Reuters) - Malaysian energy to construction firm YTL Corp YTLS.KL may list its shares overseas if it cannot eliminate the chronic under-valuation in its locally listed stock over the next five years, its boss said on Tuesday.

Managing Director Francis Yeoh told Reuters the company would keep boosting shareholder returns in an effort to narrow the discount, through ordinary cash dividends, potential special dividends, share buy-backs and discounted equity offerings.

But Yeoh, who has long held that YTL Corp shares trade below their fair value, said he would review the company’s options if the new policy of ramping up returns did not fix the problem.

“In five years time, let’s say, probably I will review and say which is the best exchange to list on at that time,” he said in an interview in his penthouse office overlooking Kuala Lumpur.

“The business will have been built and there will be so much more capacity in our businesses in five years. We will know what to do by then.”

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YTL Corp YTLS.T keeps a listing for its Japanese investors in Tokyo, but has resisted entreaties to launch a major listing in London, home to its biggest asset in Wessex Water, preferring to stay in Malaysia where market liquidity is thin and the ringgit currency remains a barrier for some foreign investors.

Malaysian broker Kim Eng Securities has a target price of 8 ringgit per share on the stock, which ended on Tuesday at 6.90 ringgit. It trades at 1.43 times book value, putting it at the lower end of firms in the DJ World Industrials Index .W1IDU.

YTL Corp has suffered this discount despite being an aggressive buyer of its own stock. For years, it paid a meagre dividend yield but announced steps to boost shareholder returns five-fold for its current financial year to end-June 2007.

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2023-07-20 11:17 | Report Abuse

18% spike, interesting..may be their Japan property value is getting unlocked...

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2023-07-19 20:32 | Report Abuse

Singapore looks elsewhere amid doubt over Indonesia's green power exports

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/07/19/singapore-looks-elsewhere-amid-doubt-over-indonesia039s-green-power-exports#cxrecs_s

“We are closer to Singapore. Indonesia still has the opportunity [to capitalise on Singapore’s clean power demand], for now,” Fabby said, but he noted that, if the country did not act quickly, others would.

He said red tape would be holding Indonesia back unless the government did something to tackle it. “It could be a loss for us, we’d lose the opportunity to dominate the market,” Fabby said.

Furthermore, Malaysia, which is as close to Singapore as Indonesia, lifted its electricity export ban this year, two years after imposing it. The opportunity could help push the development of domestic renewable energy, including demand for industries producing components for clean energy, such as solar photovoltaic.

Maulida Rahma, renewable energy campaigner at Trend Asia, told the Post on Monday that exporting power from renewable sources should be done with caution, as many parts of Indonesia still lacked electricity, due in part to a lack of connections between grids in different regions of the country.

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2023-07-14 16:11 | Report Abuse

i think for some reason the price really want to over take YTLP

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2023-07-11 13:59 | Report Abuse

If people almost consider investing MYR 100 billion to bring electricity from Australia to Singapore....it will be a waste if Malaysia do not capture such opportunity / huge demand from Singapore.


https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/billionaires-clash-as-21bn-australia-to-singapore-green-power-mega-plan-hits-rocks/2-1-1386409

No wonder YTL wanted to bid for Boustead Plantations...

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2023-07-08 18:15 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2023/07/08/green-push

Since 2022, Laos has been exporting 100MW of green energy from its hydro power plants into Singapore, and has been paying TNB wheeling charges for that.

It is being done through a project involving four Asean countries in cross-border electric trade.

“If Laos can be selling green energy into Singapore via Malaysia, Malaysian producers should be allowed to do the same,” notes an industry player who is waiting with bated breath for the details of how local producers can export to Singapore. TPA will be a game changer

Perhaps even more significant is the planned opening up of Malaysia’s electricity grid to third parties, known as third-party access or TPA.

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2023-07-05 20:54 | Report Abuse

Singapore’s electricity demand spiked amid heat wave in May

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2023/07/05/singapores-electricity-demand-spiked-amid-heat-wave-in-may/

Additionally, during periods of increased demand, EMA can direct generation units such as Open Cycle Gas Turbines to supply additional electricity to meet the system’s needs

(OCGT usage will further raise the USEP)

Tariffs hike increases from July to September
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Singapore residents will experience an electricity tariff hike of 12% between July and September 2023, as announced by the Energy Market Authority (EMA), the regulatory body responsible for the energy industry in Singapore.

This is the highest hike since the deregulation of the electricity market in 2001, and will come into effect shortly after the release of the EMA’s bi–annual Retail Electricity Price Report.

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2023-07-03 21:02 | Report Abuse

interesting thoughts from hng33..

wouldnt the YTLP shareholder demand it to be priced close to YTLP's NTA?

not sure how this share exchange works

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2023-06-27 14:33 | Report Abuse

no issues, its normal in stock market,..we need to hear the negative comments too else no chance of finding truth

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2023-06-27 14:22 | Report Abuse

wellsaid hng33..absolutely agree cost came down while asp went up and cant see the scenario changing on foreseeable future

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2023-06-25 16:11 | Report Abuse

focus on something more important..will you?..i am sure the 18 year old did not mind..

she must have been triggered by her own unfeminine looks

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2023-06-25 14:21 | Report Abuse

sslee thank you so much..you are such a gem
i completely lost trust on Bursa & SC after the Serbadinamik drama...crooks like Karim can only thrive with involvement of the guys at the top of Bursa & SC

our corruption level has gone down to the level of Indonesia 30 years ago

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2023-06-21 12:02 | Report Abuse

unless demand goes down or new capacity comes up, its simply not possible for the profit to come down if you see the "Market clearing process' section 9.2.3

the demand will only go up in singapore coupled with this short term El Nino effect....

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2023-06-21 11:48 | Report Abuse

To those who wants to know why the electricity price goes up with demand (independent to fuel price), you may refer "Market clearing process' section 9.2.3

https://www.ema.gov.sg/cmsmedia/Handbook/NEMS_111010.pdf

By the way its been confirmed that current quarter electricity price shot up by more than 50% while the trailing 2.5 months natural gas price had dropped by more than 50% (compared to first quarter ending Mar 23'). YTL powerseraya had bought the fuel in advanced when it was cheap in large quantity.

https://www.ema.gov.sg/cmsmedia/Publications_and_Statistics/Statistics/35RSU.pdf

Q2 results is possible to have double the Q1 EPS. Hng33 is correct.

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2023-06-19 18:28 | Report Abuse

Last month, prices reached as high as S$3,594 ($2,685) a megawatt-hour in daily trading after a power plant at Jurong Island shut for a turbine upgrade amid unusually hot weather. Meanwhile, the cost of LNG has fallen 86% since March 2022.