Jaks is better off just to maintain vietnam power plant and appoint a monkey as CEO with yearly profit of RM 150m. With so many failed business ventures, only get profit of RM 100m or maybe lesser.

I think now is lowerest for operators to collect and goreng one round. I think they will goreng to above 40 sen if history repeat.

Time to apply Warren Buffet's be greedy when others are fearful when all investors are losing moeny? To me jaks is speculative stock unless ALP proves otherwise...

The fear of Jaks would be which made price so depressed:
1. ALP poor business ventures both new and old ones. Obvious all his ventures failed except for Jaks Power Plant in Vietnam which is run by Chinaman not him.
2. Every year or endless PP or RI
3. Impairments of Receivables

creditors or investors accept the “ICULS” at RM 1.25 as settlement may mean price can hardly go below that. Any price around that price is a buy.

This year power play :
Toyoven - price goes up from 60 sen to RM 1.40 in few month times
YTL Power - price goes up from 66 sen to 85 sen
jaks - price at historical low. Current mkt cap = RM 400m. Power plant share of profit RM 150m per year + LSS4 profit (COD by 2nd quarter 2023) minus local business losses.

Bet not more than 20% of your funds at current price should be ok... I also think kitchen sinking exercise is almost done.

After operators collect enough, promoters will surface again, of course with difference names....

YTL Power, another value buy as current price still less than 86 sen?

At current price, how many investors will buy? What if the price shoot up to RM 1.20 in next few months, how many investors will chase?

@sslee, that is a risk of investing at lousy mgt that investors need to know. All those promising calculation by some really made a lot investors who lost heavily.

At current mkt cap of RM 400m, i will bet small. Has the kitchen sinking exercise almost done in you view?

by the time they announce financial close, price maybe already hit RM2. Retail investors may have to chase high which is risky.

Only those dare to bet when price at around 60sen will make a lot of money. Few months ago already got some indications that project is a go...

Better ALP not doing anything and retire and sell all businesses and just keep the power plant will do. With this, even you put a monkey as CEO of Jaks, company also can make RM 150m profit....

ALP treats all shareholders like water fish with endless PP and RI...with so many poor business decision as all businesses lost money except for power plant.


Current price can bet some as historical low with mkt cap of just RM 400m. Let say local business still bleeding RM 50m per year, still got RM 100m profit from power plant.

Price at 60 sen.... priced in the company is going to fail in its power plant. Price under extreme pessimism.
Price at 1.40 sen... priced in high chance to achieve financial close...
Financial close official announcement, price may break RM 2...

PECC2 is a subsidiary of Vietnam Power which is state owned.
Vietnam is in need of this power plant as they are still importing power from China and Laos.
Site compensation will complete it in the second quarter of 2023.

All these are positive signs. Share price up from 60sen to RM 1.40 in last few months. More news will be out in next few months.

PE only 7 now.

washing by operators...
current price look attractive unless very bad quarter. Bet small seems ok...

Project costs USD3.2 billion. 75% financed by debt ie around USD 2.4

In January 2021, TIGB has signed the Investment and Development Agreement (“IDA”), with China Energy Engineering Investment Corporation Limited (“CEEIC”) with the aim of providing a framework for the conditions precedent to investment and finalisation of the detailed terms and arrangements for the proposed divestment of TVHB’s equity interest in TIGB to CEEIC. However, in September 2021 during COP26, President Xi of the Republic of China made a speech to halt future investments in overseas coal fired thermal power plant. This resulted in definitive agreements with CEEIC put on hold.

In October 2022, TIGB and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Song Hau 2 Power Company Limited (“SH2P”) signed the Term Sheet for Key Commercial Terms in relation to the Engineering, Procurement and Construction, Commissioning and Start-Up of Song Hau 2 Thermal Power Plant Project with Power Engineering Consulting Joint Stock Company 2 (“PECC2”), a public listed company in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The Term Sheet set out all the negotiated terms and mutual agreement of the responsibilities of the respective parties and the conditions precedent, contract price, terms of payment and other terms of agreements. The signing of the Term Sheet demonstrates the commitment of TIGB to fulfil the requirements of the BOT Contract and sourcing project financing for the Power Plant Project so that the ground works at the project site can commence without further delay.

In November 2022, TIGB received a Letter of Interest from Export-Import Bank of Malaysia Berhad (“EXIM”) offering their services as Mandated Lead Arranger and Bookrunner (“MLAB”) and Coordinating Arranger (“CA”) for the Syndicated
Financing Facilities of up to USD2.42 billion for the Power Plant Project (“Proposed Financing”). EXIM shall in consultation with TIGB manage all aspects of the syndication process in relation to the Proposed Financing, including timing, the selection of potential financiers, the acceptance and allocation of commitments and the amount of distribution of fees to potential financiers.

In December 2022, TIGB and SH2P, collectively known as (“the Owner”) signed an Interim Engineering, Procurement, Construction and Commissioning Agreement (“Interim EPCC”) with Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd (“SW”/”Leader of Consortium”) and PECC2, collectively known as Sunway-PECC Consortium (“the Contractor”/”SWP2 Consortium”). The Interim EPCC set out all the negotiated terms and of the responsibilities of the respective parties and the conditions precedent, scope of work, procurement, site operations, contract price, terms of payment and other terms of agreements. This event signifies the commitment of the Owner to commence construction of the Power Plant in the shortest time possible, thus increase the certainty of the project materialising.

thanks durio for the power plant information.
Main point : Toyo representative said it is ready to pay the cost of site compensation and will complete it in the second quarter of 2023.

This forum is very quiet. Look like no one interested in pmetal which rebounded from RM 4 to RM 5.30, or 32%. This is far better stock to bet than other speculative stocks with its stable profit, cost leader and green tech bet.

No point to argue with this old man who like to argue and twist. Readers here can judge...

Yeah, firehawk.
I hope more can speak up.
The truth is jaks is traded at historical low and many poor investors have lost heavily with the promotions of TP of over RM 1.

Listen to Aseng promotor of Jaks last 2 years, many poor investors would have lost their pants many times.

Jaks is at its historical low price. Current price should have been priced in all negative news including bad mgt. Those who have yet to cut loss, should wait for price to recover. No way TP RM 1.5 is realistic after so many rounds PP and RI. Perhaps 50 sen is possible

perhaps sifu placed too much bet in risky bets like Henyuan in 2022. The result would be much better if limit the bet to 20% max as there is no sure win stock.

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/gambler/2020-05-24-story-h1507830782-ICAP_My_Mistake_Liquidation_may_not_even_happen_in_2025

Fat management fees :
Year 2022
Fund management fee RM 3,562,242
Investment advisory fee RM 3,562,242

Who are the winners?

On behalf of the Board of Directors of icapital.biz Berhad, we wish to announce that the Net Asset Value per share of icapital.biz Berhad as at 28 December 2022 is 3.27

current share price 2.00 is 60% below the Net Asset as at 28 Dec 2022 of RM 3.27 . SSlee should buy and prod the BOD to dissolve the fund and pay back to shareholders...

many funds which are run by old and outdated fund managers with fat salaries underperformed EPF over last 10 years

My pick for year 2023
Pmetal 15%
Kawan 15%
Mynews 10%
Myeg 10%
Airport 10%
Jaks 10%
Toyo 10%
Unisem 10%
Harta 10%

take some profit from Toyo, the rest of the shares are free shares after up 100%.

Dr M has destroyed the country jurisdiction system during his premiership in the past 20 years. He has stirred up racial issue for the past 70 years...enough is enough.

so far so good. Look like the power plant project will be on (the Company is currently finalising a contract in relation to its power plant project in Vietnam.), otherwise investors of RM 354 million will not want to settle for ICULS...

wow, up 100% in just a week..
Likely a good news coming as share price moving ahead of news

today up 18%, can get abalone not just Starbucks

congrat to those bought at 70 sen and below...

don't panic sale... companies in commodity businesses used to be very volatile in profit or loss. Ann Joo also reported huge losses, wiped out all profits this year but no panic sale.

oversold....

mkt cheers Anwar become PM 10. Luckily not PAS in power...

hy price slowly trending up ahead of results

i agreed with Ular PE 1.5 target price of RM 6.33, like can hit before or after results out, depending on mkt sentiment

after taking profit 50% of hy shares in my portpolio from 4.70-4.90 lately, i bet again Hy today...

Diesel shortage not over yet...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/11/10/diesel-energy-biden-economy/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/business/energy-environment/diesel-prices-inflation.html

game not over so soon....

https://globalnews.ca/news/9244361/us-diesel-shortage-canada/

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/30/diesel-market-in-perfect-storm-as-prices-surge-and-supplies-dwindle.html

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-US-Diesel-Shortage-Is-Worsening.html

almost same pattern as last time limit up....

limit up again?

price goes up again, very happy

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Russia-Mobilizes-Troops-And-Prepares-Sham-Referendums-In-Occupied-Ukraine.html

agreed. Keep investment simple.

Posted by probability > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Diesel at 46% yield, cracks USD 45/brl
www.tradingview.com/symbols/NYMEX-GZ1!/

Gross margin from Diesel alone
= (10.7 million x 46%) x (45 USD/brl) x (MYR 4.5/USD)
= 996 million MYR .....

PBT = 916 million
PAT = 696 million
EPS = 2.32
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even with EPS of RM 4 this FY, current price of RM 4+, the margin of safety is very high. I am happy to bet some at RM 4.30 yesterday and today. Will continnue to buy at 4.20, 4.10 and RM 4(MM target price)..... :)