Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-08 17:00 | Report Abuse

Ya ya, so far he is still consistent on charity. I think he like charity and sincere on this. :)

But huh, better don't write politics, once he write, maybe all the bad words come out, maybe he does not know what is politics, don't tell us he go bersih shout BN, BN... Hahaha

Posted by ggecko > 2012-12-08 17:28 | Report Abuse

to me, being critical of the government of the day (regardless of whether federal or state levels) is critical.. but we have to put forward our opinion and arguments objectively.. if one can do that, i will 'salute' him or her..

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-08 18:24 | Report Abuse

Ggecko, ok.. you are rite.. that why I say politic is sensitive. I never like politic, unfortunately I work in a very politic company, I have no choice but deal with things diplomatically.

To me, politic is one of the most dirty thing in the world. If some the successful businessman against the politician, maybe they are digging their own grave, I can be wrong. Being together with politician does not mean must have "corruption", can it be relationship management making ur business run easier..

If someone dislike any govt, need not use bad words to describe them.. be civilized

Guess "corruption" has existed for how long.. how many hundred years ago ? Why is it still there today ? Will you believe someone will come up and totally eliminate this ? Serious, I have no answer, and I never pretend I know politics.

To me, as long the govt can do good to the country and rakyat, I will vote for them.

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-08 19:23 | Report Abuse

Shirley. ?u must be one of those that like reading....ehm. ?...special topic like Primc eand Prncess. ?..actor and actresses.....yes no?

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-08 19:30 | Report Abuse

Yes, I like reading for pleasure and knowledge. :)

I like watch 3 kingdom, which character u want to be in the 3 kingdom ?

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-08 19:33 | Report Abuse

Which 3 kingdom chinese or english?

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-08 21:32 | Report Abuse

Chinese..

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-08 22:22 | Report Abuse

Is there a Shirley 2 or 3. The name gives me a Sentimentl feel......a Yester year feel to be exact.....

Posted by tonylim > 2012-12-08 22:24 | Report Abuse

Gumbo, wink wink

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-08 22:26 | Report Abuse

Aiyo...I acting the romance in 3 kingdom mah.....now I shy...hehhee

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-08 22:27 | Report Abuse

And 3 kingdom must have 3 Shirleys.....hahaha

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 09:42 | Report Abuse

Gumbo, ok.. i respect your privacy as you do not wish to discuss your identify and life here.

Some ppl may think you are not real. It is true that we can't write to please everyone, but some teachers would expect others change to write
something that please everyone or minimally write something that please him. otherwise you are "barking". hahaha

i'm sorry i can't change my writing style to please everyone or just one person. let blah blah on what a teacher think is cyberspace, real and freedom.

busy, write later..

Posted by gumbo > 2012-12-09 10:28 | Report Abuse

Ok shirley....btw are u in this line of trading or software?

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 11:00 | Report Abuse

im not a trader and im not in software too :)

Let me tell you a real joke.

So, we mah have periodic meeting with my paymaster lor, there is one guy bring up something in the meeting, telling having some problems and need to brainstorm how to solve them. You know what reply he get from the paymaster. after that, the whole room in silent.

“You idiot, I pay you money and give you car. You telling me problems and brainstorm with you. You want me to pull back your car or not ? or I work for you and you pay me, I tell you how to solve ?”

I think it is true you know, sometime because we don’t have time or don’t have expertise in certain areas. that why, we pay money to professional to teach us how to do, and give us the answer. It is not we tell the professional how to do and think together.

Posted by canu63 > 2012-12-09 13:13 | Report Abuse

I like 3 kingdom especially si mah

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-12-09 13:24 | Report Abuse

you mean Sima Yi

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-12-09 13:26 | Report Abuse

i see Sima Yi, i think of Antonio Salieri

Posted by benjamin > 2012-12-09 14:37 | Report Abuse

I like Zhu Ke Liang. He was a strategist and beside he can influence the weather and Liu Bei the wise man.And Kuan Yu for not flinching when he took a hit.Recognize any such character in this forum ? Ha!

Posted by canu63 > 2012-12-09 15:03 | Report Abuse

sima yi made the changes without going forward...just defend with good position. love 3 kingdom and love the chinese philosophy and Strategy.

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-12-09 15:10 | Report Abuse

Sima Yi made sure his descendants became emperors! He was only unfortunate to be in the same time as the great zhuge liang! Make no mistake about it!

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 15:30 | Report Abuse

KC can be Zhuge Liang too. :) and most ppl prefer to learn smart, i believe we have a lot of smart ppl in this forum.

think Sima Yi plant the tree and his sons enjoy the fruits haha

y'know, to my surprise one of my friend choose Liu Bei's son Liu Shan, known to be stupid. think he is a smart guy too, enyoy life and have no worry. hahaha

Posted by jester > 2012-12-09 16:12 | Report Abuse

Haha.. They are both superb make no mistake.
however, I think Zhuge Liang outsmart Sima Yi just a little bit..

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-12-09 16:25 | Report Abuse

If you look at strategies, you see that what Sima Yi did is actually quite flawless! What I like about him is he acknowledged his own limitations and didn't expand energy and resources on something he is not sure about especially in battles with Zhuge! A "smart" man would do absolutely the same! Just that Zhuge Liang was brilliant enough to take advantage of his kiasu-ism only! Hehe

To me Romance of 3 Kingdoms is a must read for every up and coming strategist next to Sun Tzu's! A brilliant portrait in application to everyday you and me life mirrored in the characters there!

Posted by jester > 2012-12-09 16:34 | Report Abuse

I absolutely agree KcLoh!

He acknowledged his limitations by keeping his armies safe in fortifications and wait out the Shu armies who had difficult time keeping the armies supplied with provisions.

If the great Zhuge Liang was not born in the same era, then Sima Yi would be flawless! haha

P/s: I love Sun Tzu's AoW..

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 19:56 | Report Abuse

To achieve 1 mil in 10 years using 1k capital. Base on one of mr teh writing he said is possible. He ask THINK and he is open-minded to accept ideas.

jus take note this, cuz do not want to say cannot without supporting facts. If can, seriously wish to find out how.. If I understand the article wrongly. please do correct me.

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 20:02 | Report Abuse

Anyone in the market for more than 10 years, base on guts feel.. is it achievable ? mind share ?

I'm in market less than 10 years.

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-09 20:11 | Report Abuse

If anyone feel stupid or like no IQ one. I think we skip la.. no point wasting time..

need to rush for something, write when free on the cyberspace..

Posted by tonylim > 2012-12-09 20:29 | Report Abuse

i do feel stupid. On the other hand do they take in ten yr olds?
They make one mil by 20 so that they can spend the mil. On their education instead if spend one mil. And start all over again.

Posted by andy118 > 2012-12-09 20:44 | Report Abuse

All must be welcome but places limited to 100 places. Please register early and bring along your cheque for RM10,000 per person. Just joking.

Maybe try starting to invest from 2003 - 2012 and see if you can make it Maybe with certain criteria like no warrants or call warrants etc

Posted by ggecko > 2012-12-09 20:57 | Report Abuse

i want to say this.. next to impossible (CP Teh may be disagreeable with me). this is only possible if there's a superbull run like in 1993 and he/she (with 1K capital) has a lot of insiders' information, ie which stocks will be goreng. let me answer shirley1's question. yes, i m in the market for more than 10 years. it is not achievable. i started in 2000 during the dot com bubble. my capital, about 200K ++. 'buy, buy, buy' speculative shares over the years; suddenly disaster struck. 1 of my speculative shares plunged within a day (i was too busy with my office mtgs; no time to monitor).. from 1.50++ to about 20sen.. i loss about 300K; also owe my bank (share margin financing almost 100K). so painful period. but i rebuilt. left with only 1K in my cash account. worked hard for the next few years; managed to rebuild my capital again..got back into stock market soon after. until today, now holding about 730K nextnation shares.. hoping for its goreng time. the only point i want to mention is this, i dont do bluechips, i only dabble in speculative stocks; SCOMI, Mutiara goodyear, eden,HIRO, etc.etc. and latest speculative stocks (for the last 1 year). so if u ask me, am i a millionare now after 10 years with a start up of abt 200K. the answer is a definite NO. perhaps i should join some of the trattles and see where i go from there.. may be i can be a millionaire in 10 years. but its ok; my yearly salary is already a quarter of a million; when i turn 55 soon, i can withdraw more than 500K from my account.. hope this answer your question shirley1

Posted by AlbertLim > 2012-12-09 22:17 | Report Abuse

I have been in market more than 10 years. Blue chips/ speculative stocks/growth stocks all i traded. But still yet to make a million from market. So Mr Teh "great" idea is definitely NOT DOABLE. This is another way to entice readers/gullible newbie to join his cohort group. One must remember, i3 is his bread & butter.

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-10 00:12 | Report Abuse

1k to hit 1 mil in 10 years, need around 100% per annum compounding. cannot make mistake within the 10 years, to increase the chances, better dont hav any bear run during the 10 years period. bear run come it can easily wipe off 10 to 20 % of ur portfolio values or even more.

Even veteran dare not to commit this, not to say someone who is novice. If can hit I guess is purely luck and gamble, guess not using skills you learn. But ur name definitely in investment history book.

Hope don't mind I say this, the maintenance cost for monitoring for 10 years could be more than 1k. the subscription you pay if you are paying customer. if after 10 years cannot hit, opps.. sorry I did not promise you, it is at ur own risk :)

For those wish to try, actually no harm trying ... and good luck.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2012-12-10 01:32 | Report Abuse

Dear Shirley1,

I was a remisier since 1993, I summarize it as follows :-

1. 90% of investors lost money in KLSE. According to statistic, there are more losers than gainers.
2. 1k becomes 1 million in 10 years is just a dream, not achievable.
3. Local fund manager makes 8% return a year is considered to be very good.
4. Stock price goes up like climbing a staircase, share price goes down like taking a lift down. You make more money in "Short" than "Long". KLSE cannot "short", hence cannot make a lot of money in KLSE.
5. Within a year, there are more months of down trend than up trend.
6. The movement of stock price in KLSE is very slow, unlike USA or HKSE. Cannot make a lot of money using small capital of 1k.
7. There is no one can make 100% accuracy in investing in KLSE. Probability of 70% is considered to be very good. Please note that there is a 30% of lost trade.
8. 1k cannot buy many stocks in KLSE. Please be realistic.

If there is a course able to achieve it, we must attend this course. We will invest RM 1 million to become a billionaire in 10 years.

Thank you.

Ooi

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-10 07:09 | Report Abuse

Buy sport toto, within 10 years there are few millionaire created. The chances is higher and more realistic. Haha

If this is jus marketing strategy, probably ppl will read and forget. If write from heart, claimed he know life or the world, it will give ppl impression he is dishonest or something like a con man, and lose his reputation.. If I'm him, I will ask someone else to do the course marketing. after all he is a teacher.. pls dont pretend know marketing after read few books.. Hahaha

If I irritate someone, sorry to be sarcastic .. skip reading and jus treat as barking, don't be dumb..

Posted by sathya > 2012-12-10 07:48 | Report Abuse

U can 1 million or 10 million from 1k..all u nd is gd luck n divine helpi remember I made my first break fm 20k from the lityan counter whenit was 1 cent n suspended for almost 3 years..but after restructing it started with rm 1 n went up all the Way to rm 3 plus..mine I got out at rm 1.30 n 1.70. We made cool 30 odd million..

In any situation u can make money..provided u hv the gut feeling..so don't be sad or dejected..hv faith..n always be a gendung n smart kepentot..

Gd luck..

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-10 08:59 | Report Abuse

Sathya, if you said that i will not dispute one, i respect your view. like u you said need a lot of luck and god help. there's always lucky person in the world even sport toto ppl can kena. Having said that, u did not profit anything from what you said for ur kind sharing.

y'know i heard my friend said. His buddy made 700,000 in one day, he admit is luck. Reason, a dealer key in wrong for sell then need to buy back a lot. and is not using 1k capital.

Posted by luiyiyuyu > 2012-12-10 09:02 | Report Abuse

if so easy to make money. no one will talk about money. because it was worthless. we all be talking about health and gossiping. because nothing else to do. HAHAHAH

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-10 09:46 | Report Abuse

I can be wrong, without punt and luck i think it is quite impossible, obviuosly teacher never teach punt, luck can teach one meh, maybe drop a bit already cut loss ... 1k capital to punt maybe not enuf.. i was a gambler once upon a time.

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-11 07:14 | Report Abuse

Sometime my son use to ask me bout his primary school math homework, then i mah teach him lor, my son will say "teacher say not like that one", i explain to him again got other way, he start crying and say, "teacher say must follow one otherwise teacher will scold one",

sometime i really very mad teaching my son do homework. but still concerns bout him, i pay money to send my son to tuition center to do homework. any parents experience this?

In work place sometime we also hear this, he said one, she said one, my boss said one, my management said one and bla bla.. cannot blame ppl ler, maybe we are educated like tat since we are kids..

one thing good bout it, our kids learn to be discipline, respect the elderly, and parents. so i still respect teacher.

So so busy, some jokers schedule the meeting in early morning, need to rush for it... write when got time...

Posted by shirley1 > 2012-12-11 14:13 | Report Abuse

I so sorry, I'm learning, even with one reader or no reader, I continue to write..

Math is definitely important, cuz we need to learn to compute or calculate. Teacher definitely contributed a lot to the society, teach the know how and teach how to pass exam. example, exam question, If 1k make 1 mil, 500 make how much and 100 make how much? So, 500 will make 500k and 100 will make 100k.

But huh, after we started working, some of us find the answer is not so correct !! cuz the answer can be any amount or even negative. Notice quite a number of the analysis ending with question mark "?" or "THINK", is it cuz he not sure and expecting some answers or feedbacks ? and claimed that can help ppl to profit.

Sorry huh, jus puzzle why someone claimed to be caring and sincere in sharing doing this?

Time for lunch..

Posted by davesingh > 2012-12-11 14:18 | Report Abuse

shirley1... its just his thought.. analyse it and leave it.. that maybe right to him..listen to ooi teik bee.. his comments seem to be great and easy to understand..

Posted by davesingh > 2012-12-11 14:26 | Report Abuse

mr ooi teik bee.. u are smart help me with this PPB...what u think of that stock...looks attractive now..

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2012-12-11 15:01 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by davesingh > 2012-12-11 15:46 | Report Abuse

agree@ooi teik bee.. thank you for your thoughts... finally someone i can relate too.. cheers mate..

Posted by datuk > 2012-12-11 17:33 | Report Abuse

1)Making and losing momey in stock market is part and parcel of my investing experience. As the old saying goes "no pains no gains" was the ultimate truth in equity investment provided i'm be able to profiting from my experience!

2) Knowledge and report research are crucial but without the elements of core competency (insider/industry information) and luck .....you wouldn't be able to reap superior profit in equity investment.

3) The quality of your character and inner mind are far more important than item 2 mentioned above.

4) Trying to time the market is the ultimate losing money formula in equity market when the inevitable bear and pundit rear it ugly face.

5) Quick gains in investing is not sustainable; virtually detrimental to your investing life

Posted by passerby > 2012-12-11 17:36 | Report Abuse

datuk: 2 thumbs up on point no 3.

Posted by Matsaham Mashuk > 2012-12-11 17:44 | Report Abuse

Mmm..to avoid loss follow trend and not ppl.remember cash is king.Use T+3 and TA(important).Buy profit making companies and companies that give dividend to shareholders.Cut loss if you think you cannot win. Pay attention for the first 45 min and last 45 min.Biz info also helped..smile--)

Posted by datuk > 2012-12-11 17:49 | Report Abuse

Momentum investing is unsustainable. I made rm10KK in the 1992-1993 bull cycle.......but naked loss with actual loss more than rm120K when the bull eventually turned into the prolong bear cycle.......there is no such guru that will be able to interprete the trend......

Posted by benjamin > 2012-12-11 17:52 | Report Abuse

Datuk, would you care to elaborate on no.4. How quick is quick? And why it is not sustainable.Thank you .

Posted by datuk > 2012-12-11 17:59 | Report Abuse

1) Any papar gain from equity that is not substantiated by long term business profit....would be a rainbow phenomena .....as your fate will be decided by the ultimate banker when they decided to unlock the profit.


2) No one could antiucipate the momentum accurately to the extent the ultimate banker also unable to predit the timing....the behavior from the crowd will be the decider....not you and me; not even the banker...