Posted by Alphabeta > 2015-02-15 21:27 | Report Abuse

Valuation of a company involved three levels in order to give a good picture of where the company stands in term of value versus price. KYY use the first approach by estimating the growth rates and margins of the business in the future. Such projections are high sensitive to the underlying assumptions.

In addition to the above, we need to do a benchmark valuation of the target business with its competitors. Pick appropriate metrics to compare for decision making process.

Finally, we need to perform an analysis on price to earnings and EBIT margin on a historical basis to study the trend in relation to the business performance over time. If P/E is on the lower end of a ling term average while margin are on uptrend, there is a good chance of value investment opportunity.

The key question here is, did KYY behave morally or get away with immoral acts which promote his self-interest? Mr Koon had achieved success and believed in sharing his success story with others. His motive is noble and he truly believed his stock picking skill will bring good fortune for himself and others.

What is distinctive about us is our capacity to reason. Whatever decision we took should be based on our own judgement.

Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-15 21:47 |

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 21:51 | Report Abuse

I used to view what he did as pretty harmless. But I am not so sure anymore after seeing how the jayatiasa case was played out. I can see that there is definitely an element of self interest involved.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 21:55 | Report Abuse

anwar ? why is anwar in the picture. Now I am confused ...

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 22:21 | Report Abuse

I had also read about KYY success stories and his recommendation of jayatiasa. but I chose not to believe/agree. but I had chosen to believe CIMB top pick of mudajaya and lost heavily. so can i claim CIMB a unscrupulous banker?
today I heard KYY is doing a good job helping those less fortunate, I am very happy. this sort of deed is noble and worth an applause not belittling.
past already a past, moral or immoral is just our guessing, karma never miss anyone, most important now we see the beauty of someone is about to bloom, why not let it grows.......

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 22:25 | Report Abuse

tahniah ayam tua! dah jadi orng besar sekarang.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 22:29 | Report Abuse

Apini nobody questioning his good deed

Charity is good

Pump and dump is different

Posted by lextcs > 2015-02-15 22:31 | Report Abuse

ill be 80 soon...its time for me to give too.

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 22:37 | Report Abuse

then what the hell you emphasizing so much on the dump side???????

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 22:56 | Report Abuse

I do charity also. But I don't go around and boast about it

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 23:04 | Report Abuse

that is your style. moreover you know very well even though you do it won't arouse laud applause. KYY is different , he donate millions and all his wealth after his death. another one I know is HAIO Tan kai see and not mistaken BJ group vincent Tan......

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:04 | Report Abuse

Pump and dump hurts inexperienced investors.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:05 | Report Abuse

Doing charity before you steal something doesn't mean that you are not guilty.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:06 | Report Abuse

That is why the hell I keep emphasizing on the dump side

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 23:09 | Report Abuse

that is your guessing .may not be true. isn't it unfair to a 82 years old man.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:10 | Report Abuse

He said he donate entire wealth, how the hell do we know that is true ?

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:11 | Report Abuse

I can transfer 99.9% of my wealth to my family and donate the remaining ENTIRE wealth

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 23:13 | Report Abuse

another one is Matrix concept Datuk Lee Tian Ho. a great benefactor

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:13 | Report Abuse

I don't doubt the benefit to many poker people from his charity work but I dislike the way he self promote

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:14 | Report Abuse

Poorer, not poker

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 23:15 | Report Abuse

icon888,
relax, cool down , you are getting mad already, start to talk nonsense now. hahaha.....

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:16 | Report Abuse

Anyway, I wish him well. I found him quite likeable. Soft spoken and gracious

Posted by apini > 2015-02-15 23:18 | Report Abuse

I read you blog, you can be that rational. but never I imagine you can be that irrational and emotion with such little provocation. go to sleep lah , my good friend, good night

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-15 23:20 | Report Abuse

I am not mad. Just trying to present different argument

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Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-02-16 00:27 | Report Abuse

Anyway if KYY ask to buy at 2.04 and went up to 2.70 and you didn't sell, it call greed lor. Ever heard of the saying "a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush" cannot believe that helping also get bashing. What in the world is happening?

Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-16 00:32 | Report Abuse

KYY was asking PakChuiCheng while KYY was dumping his Mudahjaya and JTiasa. And until today, PakChuiCheng still a hardcore supporter of KYY. It's that what happen to 52% of Pakatan supporters?

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Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-16 00:45 | Report Abuse

When stocks already gone up you can gurantee KYY will want to take credit. But when it went sore like JTiasa and Mudahjaya that made charitable investors gone bankrupt he is quick to call you gullible and blame luck instead. KYY is big believer in luck or in Islam they call it takbir

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-02-16 00:49 | Report Abuse

KYY is good example...this that cannot be followed ppl normally bad mouth.why don't those who condemn him try his method if you claim he is a con or a cheat.

Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-16 00:52 | Report Abuse

Are you still trying to protect a pump and dump expert here? KYY has victimize many, you still convince otherwise? And beside that he also bought bad politic into this blog

Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-16 00:55 | Report Abuse

Another of his pump and dump is Insas.

Posted by PakChuiCheng > 2015-02-16 00:56 | Report Abuse

Another UMNO trooper

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Posted by sarifahselinder > 2015-02-16 01:08 | Report Abuse

Wah wah wah I con

Bukan main lagi I con.... cakap bukan main lagi.

I Con.. does this mean mulai sekarang u wil give Notis Niat Nak Jual Kauter Yang I, I Con, Promoted Yang Harga Dah Naik?? Huh?? 3 day notice b4 u sell?? Huh???

up to now I tak pernah see you give notice before u sell to take profit on counters u promoted in ur blog... ada ke??




Posted by Icon8888 > Feb 15, 2015 05:08 PM | Report Abuse


to be fair， I feel that uncle Koon is not totally blameless for the jayatiasa case

My observation is that he loaded up big time, talked up the share price, and then he unloaded in the market

Even though he declared every step throughout the process, that doesn't make him faultless

Even if he subsequently donated all the profit to charity, that doesn't make the whole case smell any better

I am saying this even though I myself is a blogger

Posted by sarifahselinder > 2015-02-16 01:35 | Report Abuse

I con

Jangan u cakap satu buat satu ok. Pandai condemn orang lain je..

Lagi dare to bukan main emotional lagi. Ciss

Posted by sarifahselinder > 2015-02-16 01:38 | Report Abuse

I con

Mulai sekarang u give notis ok, give notis b4 sell counters u promote. Notis 3 hari. Ciss

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-16 02:37 | Report Abuse

OTB I am referring specifically to the jayatiasa case

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-02-16 02:40 | Report Abuse

No comments on what happened to latitude and hevea

Posted by kyyjelly > 2015-02-16 03:24 | Report Abuse

All remember KYY pump and dump in Mudahjaya. He told us that Mudahjaya powerplant in India going to start last year. He told us because Mudahjaya was his baby. And all those believe in his lies got burn in Mudahjaya. Did he apologize? No, now he is using all the credible members in this blog to spread his bad politic and agenda. He is no different from Anwar Ibrahim.

Posted by soojinhou > 2015-02-16 07:12 | Report Abuse

Don't be a cry baby lah. Mudajaya's delay in power plant is due to a delay in approval by the Indian government. You expect KYY, who is no longer holding an executive role to be able to foresee it 2 quarters before it happened? U buy because of him u should take responsibility for your own decision. Did he put a gun on your head and force u to buy? Grow some pubic hair and stop whining like a 3 month old baby

Posted by soojinhou > 2015-02-16 07:19 | Report Abuse

Also, u obviously have no idea what is a pump and dump operation vs a continuous decline. There is no pump and dump for mudajya because it has been a continuous decline. So please go do a bit of elementary reading on investment before you come and do your infantile cry baby whining here. Otherwise, just shut up until you grow some pubic hair

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Posted by Alphabeta > 2015-02-16 14:39 | Report Abuse

I agreed with OTB,everyone must realize that volatility is a bigger risk short term than long term. If you have a longer horizon to reach a goal, market volatility that causes the value of your investment to plunge may not be an immediate danger given that you are not under pressure to cut loss as the underlying business fundamental still intact. If you do your home work, you may have the conviction to buy more when the price has reached a bargain level.

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Posted by Icon8888 > Feb 16, 2015 02:37 AM | Report Abuse

OTB I am referring specifically to the jayatiasa case

Ans : He also recommended it to me, I refused to buy with my explanation. I buy based on TA and FA.
Thank you.

Posted by camcam > 2015-02-21 11:55 | Report Abuse

don't blame the rich, you also do the same mah! somemore delete some of comment, the rich never did.. hahaha


Stock: [PADINI]: PADINI HOLDINGS BHD
Jan 21, 2015 11:39 AM | Report Abuse

once in a lifetime opportunity to gain exposure

I am happy to be on board



Stock: [PADINI]: PADINI HOLDINGS BHD
Jan 21, 2015 12:32 PM | Report Abuse

Sold half at 1.45 to reduce my cost to 1.33

The remaining will hold long term





Stock: [PADINI]: PADINI HOLDINGS BHD
Jan 21, 2015 12:33 PM | Report Abuse

Please don't be affected by me

Mine is purely tactical decision

I still like the company a lot





Stock: [PADINI]: PADINI HOLDINGS BHD
Feb 16, 2015 08:42 PM | Report Abuse

I don't mean to pour cold water, but when a brand get into trouble, it is very difficult to reverse

When I was young, everybody bought New Straits Time. But gradually people switched to the Star. Since then, NST has never recovered

That is the nature of Brand

Posted by camcam > 2015-02-21 11:57 | Report Abuse

Please don't be affected me. laugh die me.