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235 comment(s). Last comment by Heavenly PUNTER 2019-03-30 16:48

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 16:08 | Report Abuse

That is around tun razak time loh...!!

Not mahathir or anwarr both just follow up with tun razak's aspiration loh.....!!



Posted by Fortune Bull > Mar 29, 2019 4:05 PM | Report Abuse

Punter! That was Anwar Ibrahim!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:10 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockraider > Mar 29, 2019 4:05 PM | Report Abuse

What he did leh ???
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slowly and quietly makes life better for teachers, students and parents.

but the real test will come in how he can improve English skills in Malaysia....some thing his boss also put in high priority.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 16:11 | Report Abuse

Correct English is very very very important !!!

At the end of the day if the education standard does not improve, the minimum wage will remain low. And sooner or later we will only be worth manual labour to other countries or even our labours.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 16:13 | Report Abuse

... even our neighbours***

mkmike

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Posted by mkmike > 2019-03-29 16:14 | Report Abuse

Everyday is all about Race and Religion. What is there left to discourse?

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 16:15 | Report Abuse

Today it's about education and income, but the main problem stems you know what!!!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 16:20 | Report Abuse

Useless lah....the school has even become more religious and racial loh...non bumi don dare to go to public....if they can afford it loh...!!

They rather continue with UEC or private if they can afford it loh...!!

Btw...why Brady the Mara campus...don open up for non bumi leh ??

The benefit if they open up there is 5 fold,
1. It create higher standard by injecting competition.
2. Msia will save huge foreign reserve by reducing the needs to go to foreign and private university loh...!!
Furthermore non bumi will not so hard press to build their own university like TAR, New Era university etc loh...!!
3. The Mara campus are already over capacity in anywhere, filling up with more student will make it more efficient loh...!!
4. These campuses are funded by taxpayers...but use only for bumi but excluding the rest of the citizen is it not discrimatory leh ??
5. Even the Public university there are quotas...does this not means there are more than enough capacity for malay students ??

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:21 | Report Abuse

and I think learning to swim is very important..every year too many young children gets drowned.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 16:23 | Report Abuse

unker qqq3, if you are not on i3 i really think you are our Education Minister...

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 16:25 | Report Abuse

Poor english one thing loh....!!

But overall education also jatuh standard mah...!!

Take thailand, korea, taiwan and china they use their own language to teach...but their overall standard never jatuh like msia loh...!!

In fact china is so terror, it is catching up with USA & Japan loh...!!

posted by Heavenly PUNTER > Mar 29, 2019 4:11 PM | Report Abuse

Correct English is very very very important !!!

At the end of the day if the education standard does not improve, the minimum wage will remain low. And sooner or later we will only be worth manual labour to other countries or even our labours.

Posted by mkmike > Mar 29, 2019 4:14 PM | Report Abuse

Everyday is all about Race and Religion. What is there left to discourse?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:25 | Report Abuse

Heavenly PUNTER > Mar 29, 2019 4:23 PM | Report Abuse

unker qqq3, if you are not on i3 i really think you are our Education Minister...
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its a very tough portfolio.....too many problems and 60 years of neglect and wrong policies.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:28 | Report Abuse

There is little the Minister can do in short term ( except talk ) that can make a difference because the quality of teachers are very lousy.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:33 | Report Abuse

our youth minister is home grown and he is from middle class family................

That shows Malaysian schools got hope.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 16:35 | Report Abuse

Just bcos few people got drown must kena learn to swim meh ??

But u teach them swimming, high risk more will get drown during swimming lesson bcos don know how to teach, negligent or teaching standard too low loh...!!

In other words u create more problem mah....!!

Just simple common sense mah...if u don know how to swim, just avoid risky water loh....!!

Even u know how to swim...u dare go far end of the beach...where the under current may sweep u away loh...!!

Or mining pull...u dare to jump in...without proper equipment even u know how to swim loh...!!

Raider a bronze medal swimmer for Penang...also don dare simply swim loh....!!

The problem is not know how to swim, but how to manage safety loh...!!

Posted by qqq3 > Mar 29, 2019 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

and I think learning to swim is very important..every year too many young children gets drowned.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 16:41 | Report Abuse

stockraider > Mar 29, 2019 4:35 PM | Report Abuse

Just bcos few people got drown must kena learn to swim meh ??
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a lot of kampong lives can be saved.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 16:42 | Report Abuse

rather than teaching them how to swim, should teach them to avoid dangerous places

Jester

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Posted by Jester > 2019-03-29 16:53 | Report Abuse

Interesting discourse here.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 17:15 | Report Abuse

by Heavenly PUNTER > Mar 29, 2019 4:42 PM | Report Abuse

rather than teaching them how to swim, should teach them to avoid dangerous places
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no use one. The more u tell people don't do this, the more they go do it.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 17:16 | Report Abuse

so unker qqq3, how long would it take for the education system to recover to it's former glory? or be functional at the very least so that you will send your grandchildren to?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 17:19 | Report Abuse

punter

our youth minister is home grown and he is from middle class family................

That shows Malaysian schools got hope.

for now its a rarity.....in 20 years time, hopefully more syed siddiq

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 17:25 | Report Abuse

what is certain is that on average, the schools are very lousy...the syllabus very lousy, the tests very lousy.

but lousy schools also produce street smart people....and it is these street smart people who became very productive later in life.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 17:33 | Report Abuse

Smart people...?? U get a few set of jaguh kampung...how to compete with vietnam & thailand leh ??

U need to do it now, without wasting time loh....!!

Sambil lewa approach cannot pakai bcos we are in global mode mah....!!

Competition is after us mah....!!

Posted by qqq3 > Mar 29, 2019 5:25 PM | Report Abuse

what is certain is that on average, the schools are very lousy...the syllabus very lousy, the tests very lousy.

but lousy schools also produce street smart people....and it is these street smart people who became very productive later in life.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 17:38 | Report Abuse

unker qqq3 good that you know the education standard is lousy, you are talking about a select few who will be street smart and very productive in life (ie starting a business or etc), but what we are look at is the majority, look at Singapore, their education standard is top notch, that's why their GDP per capita is so freaking high. We need to reach that standard... Syed Saddiq is an exception, he is just like the Warren Buffet in the investing world, how many of him can you get? He's like the best of the best, which means there isn't many like him even 20 years from now unless you can raise the education standard to a point that everyone has to be like him to even graduate.

It's a competitive world, if we don't fix what's the root cause of the problem we will soon become a poor country. That's the world today. Modern developed countries are incorporating coding as a core subject into their primary level education. What are we doing now? Implement cashless transactions in school? How is that going to help us become more competitive? Or even help us to survive Industrial Revolution 4.0???

And talk about our graduates lacking the skillsets required for the jobs. Some can barely use Microsoft Excel properly, why?? Because the syllabus didn't teach them that!

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 17:40 | Report Abuse

While we are struggling with Microsoft Excel and PowerPoint, other people is learning how to code in Python and other programming languages which will automate all the menial and repetitive tasks, how are we going to compete with them? I think that is one of the reason why our income is so low. The skillsets being taught to our graduates are barely sufficient to meet the minimum requirements in the companies!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-29 18:14 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 19:08 | Report Abuse

nothing makes more sense that making sure every kampong boy knows how to swim. Basic swimming skills.

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-29 19:12 | Report Abuse

unker qqq3 even if they know how to swim and they go swim in I don't know what's that thing called, the place where you mine tin ore and become a huge pool, they might still drown even if they know how to swim.

The key is to educate them not to play at dangerous places, not just teaching them how to swim only. Consider this, which one is easier and more practical, more effective? I am sure you know the answer.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 19:56 | Report Abuse

the two are not exclusive.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-03-29 19:56 | Report Abuse

anyway, swimming is wonderful

Posted by buminonmalay > 2019-03-30 03:40 | Report Abuse

First Get rid of the 3 Million illegal and Migrants.... Domestic value go up...then Stop the Racism in Education and bring English Back across everything... lastly un learn 60 years of Lies in Malaysia.
https://bumi-non-malay-malaysia.blogspot.com/

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-30 10:38 | Report Abuse

I still remembered someone asking those employed overseas to come back... come back for ? Lower salary and lower standard of living ah?

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-30 10:40 | Report Abuse

I still remembered someone asking those employed overseas to come back. For what I wonder? For lower salary? For lower standard of living? Or maybe for unemployment??? Real naive there.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 10:50 | Report Abuse

The Imbalancing need to be Rebalanced , i
It shud be done 20 years ago.

Perhap automation and edge competition are the crucial keys to resolve the issue.

Yaa , inducation is a must.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 10:53 | Report Abuse

Sad things is politician never want to focus on it.But, only keen to raise religious for their own agrnda.
Hope PH can adopt the good strategy to tackle the long imbalances.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 11:16 | Report Abuse

Knowledge is power

Look at what quality we have...
Datuk lokman can bullied University Student who express & defence their right over, why a datuk have such poor mentality and reaction ?

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 11:41 | Report Abuse

Honestly, i hv enoygh seeing this so call leaders inly good in accusing but never come out with valid plan for the good of Malaysia future.

Look at tajudin how he is debating in parliament , he show no respect at all to others and always talk without figure and twist things.
For me i respect opposition as long their arguments valid and respect others

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 11:42 | Report Abuse

Sometimes, i even ask myself .
What is Malaysia future if this so call leaders not even on par or better than average one.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 11:45 | Report Abuse

I must say we are lucky to turn down the fail goverment before with the vote made.
Pray PH will right the wrong.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-30 11:51 |

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VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:02 | Report Abuse

Its a Ying & Yang matter.
They are existing each other to create balancing.

Skill can be learnt and taught. When come to environment practise & study is the only way.

A karate sifu, can be doomed when a sudden attacking happen in a narrowing pathway caused from a street attacker.

Our educational nowsaday only Theory Theory Theory.
Parents are too scare to let their kids going outside and interact with sorrounding. So, tuition everyday loh.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:02 | Report Abuse

Whose to be blamed ?

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:06 | Report Abuse

Skill is something we should master and to be learnt.
For a purpose to gain the more greater resources from surrounding, environment perhaps the universal.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-03-30 12:06 | Report Abuse

It is not swimming useless..it is the Education Minister useless mah...for wrong emphasis mah..... u should able to see the problem and don get distracted loh...!!

Of course swimming like any other skill is useful mah...raider is a bronze medallist swimmer in Penang, how can raider will say learning swimming is useless thing leh ??

Posted by Fortune Bull > Mar 30, 2019 11:55 AM | Report Abuse

Raider! Mining pool are indeed very dangerous! It has a very soft, sticky mud that will pull you deeper like quick sand! What authority should do is to reclaim the whole think to prevent future tragedy! Or turn it into floating solar farm!

But to say swimming is useless is something i can't accept! So many get drown in seashore that mining pool! Perhaps you are very lucky because you never seen river, sea or mining pool so swimming is not necessary for you! Then again that's what chinese China excuse for not learning to swim!

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:08 | Report Abuse

Malaysian today, they are too scare to loose or sacrify for a better life.

What worst could that be ?

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:12 | Report Abuse

PH should encourage new generation a restart programme,
For those who has went through the Dare to Challenge for Success youngsters and entrepreneurs.

Let the legend born.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:52 |

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VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2019-03-30 12:55 | Report Abuse

If above dont work out well,
Thats why we hv low quality datuk and ministers in the parliament.

Corrupted nation with evil minded.

I still believe, We have more Fine Seeds in Malaysia.
Just can we guide them not
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Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-30 16:47 | Report Abuse

That's why I say ah, rather than fight for an uncertain future, why not go to greener pastures where your future is at least more guaranteed, in a way that policies are not race based, places that promote equality, places where ability and competence is appreciated?

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-30 16:48 | Report Abuse

Unker VenFx, most of these fine seeds you are saying that have been guided and educated well have very likely left this bolehland!

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > 2019-03-30 16:48 | Report Abuse

Unker VenFx, most of these fine seeds you are saying that have been guided and educated well have very likely left this bolehland!

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