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kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-25 17:42 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 25, 2019 5:27 PM | Report Abuse
aiyah kc............Look at Dayang and PIE.....your kind of favorites FA.....so how?
u say you teach people to fish not give fish to them....so u teach them to fish dayang and PIE , then how?

Are you sure you a 60+ year old retired accountant?

Your brain is like a three year old kid.

1Bid

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Posted by 1Bid > 2019-05-25 17:44 | Report Abuse

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Thumbs up for article like this for debates. Gentlemen please continue.

Posted by (US/CHN trade war doesn't matter) Philip > 2019-05-25 18:49 | Report Abuse

Super interesting! My respect is now increased. KC makes much sense and more gentleman.

Learn even more things now, and even more disrespect to Calvin tan.

I am now looking for a TA sifu willing to take from me money to invest using technical analysis. Willing to put down rm500k-2m for someone with a portfolio personally grown using poorly technical analysis.


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Posted by kcchongnz > May 25, 2019 5:41 PM | Report Abuse

Anyway, this issue is closed. Let us not talk about it any more.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-25 20:52 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
Do you know on 3rd Dec 2016, Mr. Koon had to swallow his pride and offer an open apology to Mr. KC Chong?
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/110867.jsp
Let’s find a solution - Koon Yew Yin
As you all know, Mr. KC Chong and I have a problem. I slept with the problem last night and when I woke up this morning, I found a solution in my hand. It is not a wet solution. It is a solid one that can really resolve our differences.
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Moral: The attitude of negotiation and problem solving is to find the 18th coin i.e. the common ground. Once we are able to find the common ground, the issue is resolved. It is difficult at times.
However, to reach a solution, the first step is to believe that there is a solution.
I trust KC Chong will forgive me for all the bad things I said that caused the misunderstanding.

Thank you
P/S: The fortune and judgment of Mr. Koon change for the worst since quack accountant appear into his life. Wonder why?

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stockman/105961.jsp
For Koon Yew Yin
Author: stockmanmy | Publish date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016, 4:23 PM

Posted by Desa20201956 >Feb 9, 2016 12:29 AM | Report Abuse
to be able to have a proven track record in the share market....and to write good articles on politics ....that is a rare combination.
A very very rare combination in Malaysia.
That is KYY.

The beginning of the end of KYY
Posted by yewyin33 >Feb 9, 2016 3:21 AM | Report Abuse
I ham very happy to see that most of my articles have readers and comments. But unfortunately most of the critics cannot appreciate my writings. I have high respect for JT Yeo and Desa20201956. Please write to me yewyin33@gmail.com because I wish to know you and I would like to explore how we can work together to make more money.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-25 22:37 | Report Abuse

Beginners who are not ready yet are being rush into share market by sifus, subscription services.............that is very bad. FA TA whatever A not enough to understand share market........I would say, for beginners, focus on quality is good advise.

Beginners need time and not rushed by sifus. They have no idea what they are getting themselves into.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-25 23:04 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 25, 2019 3:35 PM | Report Abuse

kc.............just look at Dayang and PIE..............u can honestly say yours and OTB FA can pakai?

Ans :
What a shame here.
Losing so much money in Jaks and sendai still dare to boast that he made a lot of money.

The amount of money I made from Dayang is enough for qqq3 to retire and shut his mouth.
I measure my performance on the amount of money I made from stock market.
I do not care whether my FA report is below par or above par.

I always remember, A good cat is the cat that can catch a rat.
A good FA report will help me made a lot of money.
A good TA and FA skill will help me to build my wealth.

I do not care about bad remarks on me, it will not affect my money in my bank account.
I care if I lose my money.

Thank you to make me famous in I3 by quoting my name all the times.
Ooi

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 00:19 | Report Abuse

Beginners who are not ready yet are being rush into share market by sifus, subscription services.............that is very bad. FA TA whatever A not enough to understand share market........I would say, for beginners, focus on quality is good advise.

Beginners need time and not rushed by sifus. They have no idea what they are getting themselves into.

as for otb/kc...no more honest way to cari makan meh?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 08:45 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-26 09:37 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
Quack accountant, after caught with your pants down with lies for so many times, I now wondering who are you? Can you be what you say, a small time trader with only few thousands in investment, two children and have not worked for 20 years and still happy and positive? Are you pretend to be a pig but eat tiger: 扮猪吃老虎? Are you an agent provocateur/sycophant or a black hand for pump and dump syndicate?
So my advice to everyone please avoid quack accountant like a plague

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:25 | Report Abuse

lee...u are spokes person and agent of OTB ...that is obvious to all.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:27 | Report Abuse

otb...everyone is entitled to post his or her opinion...and I surely do have strong opinions on the subject...............

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:31 | Report Abuse

a small time trader with three hundred thousand in investment, two grown children now working but I have not worked for > 20 years and still happy and positive?...factually correct.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:36 | Report Abuse

and why shouldn't I be happy and positive?.......only a few years ago , my 2 children just entering private universities and my portfolio size then is only $ 50,000.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:48 | Report Abuse

do u have no shame? can u block out all your mistakes and exaggerate all your successes??

if u can, then u qualify to be sifu, service providers, subscription provider.

and I do think these are fundamental irrevocable statements.........

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:53 | Report Abuse

stock market..those who think they have mastered the stock market are soon humiliated.....but why some not humiliated one? Because thick skin and no shame, can block negative thoughts and exaggerate successes.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 10:54 | Report Abuse

qqq3,
Want to attack people to seek recognition will not make yourself very great.
I have been quiet for many months to a year, still want to attack me to gain publicity.
I never post anything in I3 for a year, still want to talk bad about me.

qqq3, you are nothing if compared against me.
You can jump 10 times, you still cannot be better than me.

Want to compare the achievement of my children, you also lost to me.

You have nothing better than me.
May be you are better than me in telling big lies in I3.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 10:56 | Report Abuse

Ooi Teik Bee > May 26, 2019 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

qqq3,
Want to attack people to seek recognition will not make yourself very great.
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why great? I retired long long time ago.....greatness never entered my mind.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 10:56 | Report Abuse

It is so simple, if qqq3 is so good, you should have made million in stock market.
I really want to laugh at him, do not even have RM 100k to invest in stock market.
May be the capital is less than RM 100k now after losing so much on Jaks and Sendai. He sailang big on Jaks and Sendai when Jaks was at 1.70 and Sendai at around 1.00 respectively.
Please look at the price now, dropped > 50% to 70% from his buying price.
So sad for him.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 11:01 | Report Abuse

otb....I am just a small time trader but that does not mean I do not have strong opinions.

As for Jaks and Sendai....I think I was very good....How else could I have made money on Jaks and Sendai and not lost it all back?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 11:06 | Report Abuse

qqq3 sailang big on Jaks and Sendai when Jaks was at 1.70 and Sendai at around 1.00 respectively.
Please look at the price now, dropped > 50% to 70% from his buying price.
So sad for him.

Please do not commit suicide after this big loss.

Every problem still can find solution to it.
Please listen to my advice, please do not commit suicide.
I can talk to your boss to save you.

Please listen to my advice, please do not commit suicide ... I repeat ...

I stop here.
Enough is enough.
I do not have so thick skin like qqq3.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 11:12 | Report Abuse

OTB...for every share that goes up a lot and come crashing down, everyone is right at least once. And OTB, I noticed you have never bought a single share that does not soon come crashing down. What happened to all the analysis and all the reasons to buy? Were those laughable analysis or what?


and the brain can block all the mistakes and exaggerate all the successes?? That is what I call a sifu and a subscription service.

Huat1

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Posted by Huat1 > 2019-05-26 11:13 | Report Abuse

The comments actually show/reflect the maturity and security of the person. Be fair and kind to others...don't be jealous and have negative emotions as it will only harm yourselves. Participating in the stock market is suppose to give you more fun and happiness, not misery

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 11:42 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 13:07 | Report Abuse

heaven for OTB is...I do my con , you do yours,,,,never river water to disturb well water.


well, I do no fees and I do no con.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 13:10 | Report Abuse

for beginners, focus on quality is good advice..........

Just look at OTB shares, has OTB ever bought a single share that does not collapse soon after? So, what is the meaning and purpose of all the laughable analysis?

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-05-26 13:30 | Report Abuse

What goes up too much will come down, difficult to defy gravity mah...??

Posted by qqq3 > May 26, 2019 1:10 PM | Report Abuse

for beginners, focus on quality is good advice..........

Just look at OTB shares, has OTB ever bought a single share that does not collapse soon after? So, what is the meaning and purpose of all the laughable analysis?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 15:47 |

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 15:53 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 15:53 | Report Abuse

ted by Ooi Teik Bee > May 26, 2019 3:47 PM | Report Abuse

I recommend GCB at 1.70, what is the price now ?
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then stick to quality , its called compassion and enlightenment.....and professional also.....not to be greedy for performance, not to be side tracked by greed.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 15:56 | Report Abuse

Qualified and licensed advisers remain professional...problem is unlicenced advisers and bloggers and internet advisers got no professionalism.....remisiers worse..........remisiers give u an idea a day, how to be professional, how to have quality?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 15:59 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 16:02 | Report Abuse

stick to quality, easy to do but no business after that.....then how?

go back to the small caps lah, swing here swing there, no need professionalism.

no need compassion, no need enlightenment, just need thick skin and black heart.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 16:07 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-26 16:16 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
My advice to all newcomers:
Study the quantitative part of FA
1. Financial data contain in current and past financial report.
a. Profit and loss statement
b. Balance sheet
c. Cash Flow

2. Then use TA base on qualitative part of FA
A. Economy condition. (Current and future)
B. Industry condition. (Current and future)
C. Company management. (Current and future)
With timing enter and exit base on TA chart (Human behavior pattern of Greed & Fear) and Economy condition, Industry condition, Company management condition.

You can follow Philip style buying quality (Slow and steady moving stock if economy and industry condition remain favorable) or fast moving stocks (with sound FA but also fast change on economy, industry and management condition) but never quack stocks base on snake oil medicine (hope)/manipulation with bad FA and Bad management (Ideal for pump and dump)

Thank you.
P/S: Can’t blame OTB if the share price collapses later due to sudden bad external economy and industry conditions. But if you are his subscribers most likely you have cut win/loss when TA trend or economy and industry condition turn unfavorable.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 16:21 |

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 16:25 | Report Abuse

I do not know about Sslee, we only met once recently.
I believe Sslee should know what type of a person I am.
Sslee, Kcchongnz and me, we are all very gentlemen type.
Never talk bad about other people in I3.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 16:27 | Report Abuse

Ooi Teik Bee > May 26, 2019 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

I was invited by Bursa chairman to meet her recently.
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maybe they are considering whether to press charges you....hahahaha...that will make me laugh.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 16:31 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 16:32 | Report Abuse

licensed brokers and their analysts got rules....unlicenced ones got no rules.

so....what is Bursa going to do? We wait and see lah.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 17:42 | Report Abuse

lets talk FA and TA ala KC/OTB style.

FA first

first there is this thing called quality and non quality stuffs. Quality is some thing u know when u see it, especially for old hands.

What happens when u see the trees and not the forest? Good good quarterly reports....rear view drive no front view drive.

5 formulas for valuations, 10 indicators based on the Balance Sheet. Its not that these are bad tools, more relevant question is how reliable are these tools for forecasting?

All the 5 formulas 10 indicators come from same source...the audited accounts and quarterly reports....Its also garbage In Garbage Out. More formulas and more indicators does not equate more reliability.

Stock God? You can keep it. No one has yet invented an AI that can beat the market, even as AI can beat the best players in GO.

What is reality? Is there reality? Its just a moment to moment existence. Between existence and non existence, there is only the Middle Path. Between over/ under valuations, there are also the contrarians who choose to act differently.

Bottom line...those who think they have mastered it soon gets humiliated. Of course, if you are an image peddler, u will fight for your image at whatever the cost.

TA....this one even less need to be say. Its every man for himself.

So who is so thick skin to sell services as if they are stock God? Certain category of people and we all know what kind of people, don't we?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 17:50 | Report Abuse

Fooled by randomness? Very common. More common than people care to admit.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 17:59 | Report Abuse

Investments are best defined as participating in the growth of excellent predictable quality companies..........Every thing else is speculating/ trading.

Definitions are important......Proper definitions help to make money and avoid losses.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-05-26 20:03 | Report Abuse

U talk so much cock on FA but u r only a trader, why bother leh ??

Posted by qqq3 > May 26, 2019 5:42 PM | Report Abuse

lets talk FA and TA ala KC/OTB style.

FA first

first there is this thing called quality and non quality stuffs. Quality is some thing u know when u see it, especially for old hands.

What happens when u see the trees and not the forest? Good good quarterly reports....rear view drive no front view drive.

5 formulas for valuations, 10 indicators based on the Balance Sheet. Its not that these are bad tools, more relevant question is how reliable are these tools for forecasting?

All the 5 formulas 10 indicators come from same source...the audited accounts and quarterly reports....Its also garbage In Garbage Out. More formulas and more indicators does not equate more reliability.

Stock God? You can keep it. No one has yet invented an AI that can beat the market, even as AI can beat the best players in GO.

What is reality? Is there reality? Its just a moment to moment existence. Between existence and non existence, there is only the Middle Path. Between over/ under valuations, there are also the contrarians who choose to act differently.

Bottom line...those who think they have mastered it soon gets humiliated. Of course, if you are an image peddler, u will fight for your image at whatever the cost.

TA....this one even less need to be say. Its every man for himself.

So who is so thick skin to sell services as if they are stock God? Certain category of people and we all know what kind of people, don't we?


qqq3
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Posted by qqq3 > May 26, 2019 5:50 PM | Report Abuse

Fooled by randomness? Very common. More common than people care to admit.


qqq3
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Posted by qqq3 > May 26, 2019 5:59 PM | Report Abuse

Investments are best defined as participating in the growth of excellent predictable quality companies..........Every thing else is speculating/ trading.

Definitions are important......Proper definitions help to make money and avoid losses.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 20:24 | Report Abuse

by stockraider > May 26, 2019 8:03 PM | Report Abuse

U talk so much cock on FA but u r only a trader, why bother leh ??
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right , I am a trader , FA not so important.....

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Investments are best defined as participating in the growth of excellent predictable quality companies..........Every thing else is speculating/ trading.

Definitions are important......Proper definitions help to make money and avoid losses.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 23:06 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-26 23:32 | Report Abuse

Otb... research newsletter without licence.... why are u surprised if u are being investigated?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-05-26 23:42 |

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anticonman

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Posted by anticonman > 2019-05-27 04:14 | Report Abuse

Your ROI 100% for 2019 can show proof?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > May 26, 2019 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

I was invited by Bursa chairman to meet her recently.
She was very impressed by my professionalism.
She was told that I did a good job to recommend good stocks to all my clients.
Most of my clients won big from my recommendations.
I told her that I issued a weekly report to let all my clients know about market outlook.
She told me to keep up the good work.

I did not tell any lies here.
Result will speak for itself.

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