Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-23 18:55 | Report Abuse

democracy works when voters smart
democracy fails badly when voters are like this uncensor.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-23 18:57 | Report Abuse

meritocracy like China/ CPC is the best guarantee against i...diots.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-23 19:17 | Report Abuse

sense of justice, desire for fairness, rule of law., of morality

These are universal desires of people,

uncensor, just because u don't know any thing....u cannot assume China and its government is not doing their best.

uncensor....whatever opinion u have, u are an outsider.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-23 19:22 | Report Abuse

the 100 million party members are not aliens, they are part and parcel of the country.

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-23 21:37 | Report Abuse

stockraider liar when did you buy ?

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-23 21:58 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxBTKSnHIks

Why are Chinese CHILDHOODS so DIFFERENT to ours? by serpentza

My Chinese wife got to meet our niece and was very impressed with the way she is being brought up. We talk about how different our upbringings were and how completely different Chinese childhoods are to the west.

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-23 21:59 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaH63g54ehI

Hong Kong Holds “Patriots Only” Election

Because Hong Kong is a thriving democracy, it held elections this week. And because Hong Kong is also very patriotic, only it was a "patriot only" election. Watch this episode of China Uncensored for more on the LegCo elections, who won, and why people were turning in blank ballots.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-23 22:04 | Report Abuse

They don't want to teach u what to do, u don't need to teach HK what to do.

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 01:57 | Report Abuse

Great War is coming. Let’s totally annihilate the loser

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 09:57 | Report Abuse

No hot war but cold war can crush too

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 09:58 | Report Abuse

I surely agree what HK do

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 10:48 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHIDOfd1x8&t=43s

How China's Biggest Spies got CAUGHT in 2021 by serpentza

2021 has been a busy year for China's Spy agencies but an even bigger year for American Spy Hunters!.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 11:36 | Report Abuse

This uncensored is brady dishonest, untruthful and a manipulator & a typical similiar to how USA Govt operate mah!

Very naive , post poor quality fake silly video n article on china that not even able to kon a 6 yrs old loH!

Some more pusing here & there brady waste of time mah!

Example he ask raider when buy the low cost units and raider already mentioned more than 10 years mah....of course buying from the low cost units from secondary mkt of course all various dates mah!

He ask raider rich or not just with units of low cost can be rich meh ? ...Raider already answered mah...the 15 units of low cost is just a appetiser to raiders overall assets mah!
Raider have other assets like properties, share, cash and business mah!

Raider is a honest & truthful guy just like current China govt straight forward, efficient & effective and strong integrity & honesty with sense of helping others loh!

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:02 | Report Abuse

every Chinese is a suspected spy by now.

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 12:07 | Report Abuse

Yaya China is very honest and helpful with Malaysia

They help us build 6 ‘warships’ worthRm9 billion ringgit that use machine guns and a small cannon

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:08 | Report Abuse

why Malaysia need warships?

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 12:14 | Report Abuse

It is a rescue project for msia govt mah!

The upfront monies almost all the contract value Of rm 9b had being all sapu by msian contractors under LTAT mah!

With so little monies left in the contract...luckily still can afford something....if contract done by the west they will give u a few modified small tug boats only loh!

Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 12:07 PM | Report Abuse

Yaya China is very honest and helpful with Malaysia

They help us build 6 ‘warships’ worthRm9 billion ringgit that use machine guns and a small cannon

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 12:14 | Report Abuse

Every country does, unless of course there are some ‘Malaysians’ don’t mind buying rm 1.5 billion warships equipped just with machine guns cause their loyalty is to China

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:17 | Report Abuse

warship war with who?

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 12:18 | Report Abuse

@stockraider, fyi at least the infamous ‘Jho Low’ Equanimity is 4 times in weight, with maybe speculated gold plated toilet seats

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:18 | Report Abuse

warship rubber bullets enough.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:19 | Report Abuse

buy wrong thing buyer fault or seller fault?

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 12:20 | Report Abuse

What can msia do leh ?

The Rm 9b original contract all sapu...left with crumbs mah!
Do not forget the original Rm 9b contract are sub subcontract to the west mah! Now we have an unfinished abandoned naval work in progress mah!

Lucky china come & help...if not can only afford tug boats mah!

Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 12:14 PM | Report Abuse

Every country does, unless of course there are some ‘Malaysians’ don’t mind buying rm 1.5 billion warships equipped just with machine guns cause their loyalty is to China

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 12:24 | Report Abuse

For close to the same price tag, Indonesia ordered warships that’s :

Displacement: 3040 tonnes, 4 times the weight of the ‘sampan’ we getting from China. Heavier can sell more for used iron also

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2021/06/10/indonesia-orders-six-fremm-frigates-from-fincantieri/

Armament : 4 × TESEO Mk-2 anti-ship missiles, double launchers; 4 × Albatross octuple Aspide SAM launchers, 1 × Otobreda 127 mm/54 gun; 2 × Oto Melara Twin 40L70 DARDO CIWS; 2 × Browning HB2B 12.7 mm; 2 × MG 42/59 7.62 mm; 2 × 533 mm torpedo tubes; 2 × 324 mm triple torpedo tubes with Mk-46 Mod.2 torpedoes

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 12:30 | Report Abuse

Not enough to eat still buy warship

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 12:31 | Report Abuse

Not china fault mah, China is just the rescuing party mah!

What can msia do leh ?

The Rm 9b original contract all sapu...left with crumbs mah!
Do not forget the original Rm 9b contract are sub subcontract to the west mah! Now we have an unfinished abandoned naval work in progress mah!

Lucky china come & help...if not can only afford tug boats mah!

Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 12:14 PM | Report Abuse

Every country does, unless of course there are some ‘Malaysians’ don’t mind buying rm 1.5 billion warships equipped just with machine guns cause their loyalty is to China

Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 12:24 PM | Report Abuse

For close to the same price tag, Indonesia ordered warships that’s :

Displacement: 3040 tonnes, 4 times the weight of the ‘sampan’ we getting from China. Heavier can sell more for used iron also

Armament : 4 × TESEO Mk-2 anti-ship missiles, double launchers; 4 × Albatross octuple Aspide SAM launchers, 1 × Otobreda 127 mm/54 gun; 2 × Oto Melara Twin 40L70 DARDO CIWS; 2 × Browning HB2B 12.7 mm; 2 × MG 42/59 7.62 mm; 2 × 533 mm torpedo tubes; 2 × 324 mm triple torpedo tubes with Mk-46 Mod.2 torpedoes

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 12:35 | Report Abuse

@stockraider, yaya that’s why we are so thankful to the honest and truthful China
Big brother loves selling us 6 sampan’s with machine guns worth a total rm 9 billion

With advanced arms in the region, one wonders what are the machine guns for hahah, might as well give us stainless steel keris

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 12:41 | Report Abuse

Correct loh...we should be very thankful for china help mah!

We should count ourselves very lucky for having china as a kind friend mah!


The Rm 9b original contract all sapu...left with crumbs mah!
Do not forget the original Rm 9b contract are sub subcontract to the west mah! Now we have an unfinished abandoned naval work in progress mah!

Lucky china come & help...if not can only afford tug boats mah!


Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 12:35 PM | Report Abuse

@stockraider, yaya that’s why we are so thankful to the honest and truthful China
Big brother loves selling us 6 sampan’s with machine guns worth a total rm 9 billion

With advanced arms in the region, one wonders what are the machine guns for hahah, might as well give us stainless steel keris

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 13:19 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JbWM5nMBcc

Afghan Pine Nuts Exported to China by Air

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 13:23 | Report Abuse

Yaya, thanks for the rm1.5 b each sampans with machine guns

To put things into perspective, this is what the Korean navy is getting for rm 2.0 b each

Also in November, HHI was awarded a KW636.3 billion, or $533 million, contract for the second of three new Batch 2 Sejong Daewang-class (KDX-III) destroyers expected to be delivered in 2026

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 13:24 | Report Abuse

The second batch of KDX-III ships mentioned above will give the RoKN six ships of this class by the late 2020s. They will be 170 meters long and displace about 8,100 tons. Kim said that these new ships will be capable of sea-based ballistic missile defense, with plans to acquire the SM-3 or SM-6 interceptors and Aegis CMS Baseline 9.

“This will contribute to realize a multi-layered missile defense capabilities at [the] Korean Peninsula; along with existing land-based interceptors of both Korean armed forces and U.S. troops in Korea, like Patriot [surface-to-air missile] and [Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system],” he added.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 13:36 | Report Abuse

U talk very silly loh!

China is always very efficient but if u felt short changed, why don't msia govt buy from USA leh ??

Nothing to stop us buying from USA loh!

Go & buy the exactly korean model specifications mah!


Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 1:23 PM | Report Abuse

Yaya, thanks for the rm1.5 b each sampans with machine guns

To put things into perspective, this is what the Korean navy is getting for rm 2.0 b each

Also in November, HHI was awarded a KW636.3 billion, or $533 million, contract for the second of three new Batch 2 Sejong Daewang-class (KDX-III) destroyers expected to be delivered in 2026


Posted by Up_again > Dec 24, 2021 1:24 PM | Report Abuse

The second batch of KDX-III ships mentioned above will give the RoKN six ships of this class by the late 2020s. They will be 170 meters long and displace about 8,100 tons. Kim said that these new ships will be capable of sea-based ballistic missile defense, with plans to acquire the SM-3 or SM-6 interceptors and Aegis CMS Baseline 9.

“This will contribute to realize a multi-layered missile defense capabilities at [the] Korean Peninsula; along with existing land-based interceptors of both Korean armed forces and U.S. troops in Korea, like Patriot [surface-to-air missile] and [Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system],” he added.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-24 13:37 | Report Abuse

Remember this loh!

Not china fault mah, China is just the rescuing party mah!

What can msia do leh ?

The Rm 9b original contract all sapu...left with crumbs mah!
Do not forget the original Rm 9b contract are sub subcontract to the west mah! Now we have an unfinished abandoned naval work in progress mah!

Lucky china come & help...if not can only afford tug boats mah!

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 13:42 | Report Abuse

The 19th characteristics of little pinky communists
19. Self hypnotised. Make ownself in believing China CPC is of good moral status. Every things that they did must be 100% corrected & for good of all everyone. CPC is saints.

Hahahaha... like frogs living in the well dreaming how the outside world looks like.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 13:58 | Report Abuse

no one is perfect but CPC nearly there............

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 15:13 | Report Abuse

Hahaha...
qqq3333 don't simply said ok... CPC where got nearly, should already there 100% since 100 years ago....
Hahaha

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 15:15 | Report Abuse

I don’t have to talk silly, it’s just facts. China can sell us sampan with machine guns, but sampan price la

Looking at the deal, even Jho Low got a better deal for his yatch

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 16:22 | Report Abuse

UP_again . I do agreed with you. But don't blame the little pinky communists. They are color blinded. Can't see the true color. Ha..ha .ha..
Self hypnotised group of people.

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 16:24 | Report Abuse

Up_again you put such a name how to not agreed with you... hahaha... of course in agreement with for shares price to up again...

Posted by uncensored > 2021-12-24 16:25 | Report Abuse

Little pinky communists like to 自欺欺人
欺骗自己，也欺骗别人。指用连自己都不相信的东西来欺骗别人。

Posted by Sslee > 2021-12-24 16:41 | Report Abuse

If you replaced meritocracy with faked democracy the end result is fxxxxx.

https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/malaysian/ship-project-05072021182655.html

BNS was awarded a 9 billion ringgit (U.S. $2.18 billion) contract in 2014 to design, build and deliver six of the ships for the Royal Malaysian Navy, with the first one due in April 2019.

At an August 2020 parliamentary debate, Ismail Sabri acknowledged that none of the LCSs had been completed, despite the government having paid 6 billion ringgit ($1.46 billion) so far.

The following month, former deputy defense minister Liew Chin Tong told lawmakers that Putrajaya’s special investigation committee on procurement, governance and finance had discovered that 1 billion of the 6 billion ringgit paid for the warships could not be traced.

A month later, Liew called for the government to investigate the missing funds, adding that the money should be returned so the LCS project could be completed.

“Once the parties involved are brought to justice, the government should consider injecting funds to ensure the project can be completed for the navy’s use, to continue protecting the sovereignty of our waters,” he said.

In August 2020, as he answered questions in parliament about the non-delivery of ships, Ismail had said the ministry was considering terminating the contract with BNS, among other options.

On Friday, he noted that doing so would have adverse effects on the Armed Forces Fund Board, the military pension fund. The fund owns 59.4 percent of Boustead Holdings, according to Bloomberg News.

“Indirectly it would affect soldiers who are contributors, should the project be halted, while the banking institution which has financed the project would suffer losses. For the record, Boustead Naval Shipyard Group is a government-linked company, managed by mostly Malay Bumiputera,” he said, referring again to the country’s majority ethnic group.

Separately, the Royal Malaysian Navy received the second of four Chinese-built Littoral Mission Ships in March, under a contract signed by Putrajaya and the China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Co Ltd in 2017.

The ship, KD Sundang, arrived at the RMN Naval Base in Sepanggar, Kota Kinabalu in the state of Sabah in early March, two months after the first ship, KD Keris.

The remaining two ships from the Chinese company are to be delivered by October and December, respectively, according to Navy officials.

Posted by Sslee > 2021-12-24 16:45 | Report Abuse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KD_Sundang_(112)

KD Sundang is the second ship of Keris-class littoral mission ship of the Royal Malaysian Navy. She built by Chinese company China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Co. Ltd based on enlarged and improved version of Durjoy-class large patrol craft of the Bangladesh Navy. Currently, she in service with the 11th LMS Squadron based in Sepanggar, Sabah

General characteristics
Class and type
Keris-class littoral mission ship
Displacement
700 long tons (711 t) full load
Length
69 m (226 ft 5 in)
Beam
9 m (29 ft 6 in)
Draught
2.8 m (9 ft 2 in)
Speed
24 knots (44 km/h)
Range
2,000 nautical miles (3,700 km) at 15 knots (28 km/h)
Complement
45
Sensors and
processing systems
SR-47AG search radar
HEOS-100 & HEOS-300 fire control radar
Armament
1 x 30 mm H/PJ-17
2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2HB machine guns[1][2]

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-12-24 16:50 | Report Abuse

thanks ssllee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rqlRddGgdY&t=1780s

Mainstream Media Dishonesty - Cross examining propagandists from the NYT & beyond
Desa -
18 hours ago
Probably had been like that forever although I didn't realise before

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this xinjiang thing really open my eyes because we all know China is not a genocide country, but we don't know about other countries they treat as enemies.

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 16:51 | Report Abuse

For a close to ‘apple to apple’s comparison, recently the Taiwanese navy commissioned their latest ship that’s close to the size of the sampan’s we are given,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuo_Chiang-class_corvette

Equipped with 8 × Hsiung Feng II
8 × Hsiung Feng III
1 × Otobreda 76 mm
1 × Phalanx CIWS
2 × 12.7mm Browning M2HB
2 × Mark 32 triple torpedo launcher (one port and one starboard

For about rm 200-250 mil each

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 17:10 | Report Abuse

You at least got this right, China got 9 billion to improve their education system while in exchange we got boats with machine guns

We might use them for fishing though, but considering the Chinese navy blockade 100km of Sarawak’s coast, can’t do that too

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 17:19 | Report Abuse

@sslee

Thanks so much for putting this into context, totally can compare what we got and what the Taiwanese navy got

About the same size, ours 4 times more expensive, with machine guns….

Posted by Sslee > 2021-12-24 17:40 | Report Abuse

Four LMS for RM 1.048 billion or per LMS RM 262 million.

So Taiwan per ship only cost RM 65.5 million?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharaja_Lela-class_frigate

The Maharaja Lela-class frigates (before known as Second Generation Patrol Vessel (SGPV) or Littoral combat ships (LCS)) is a class of six stealth frigates being built for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN).[1] The ships are based on an enlarged version of the Gowind-class corvette, designed by DCNS of France. The contract has been finalised and it has been decided that all six ships will be built by local shipbuilder Boustead Heavy Industries Corporation (BHIC) for the RMN at a ceiling price of RM9 billion (US$2.8 billion), starting from 2015.[9] The ships will be 111 metres (364 ft 2 in)s long with a displacement of 3,100 tonnes (3,100 long tons)

Posted by Sslee > 2021-12-24 17:48 | Report Abuse

https://www.malaysiandefence.com/lms-price-reduction-all-to-be-made-in-china/

KUALA LUMPUR, March 15 (Bernama) — Boustead Holdings Bhd (BHB) today announced the revision of terms of contract for the supply of four littoral mission ships for the Royal Malaysian Navy.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, BHB said the government agreed that all four vessels would be built and delivered in China at a revised contract price of RM1.048 billion.

BHB was referring to an earlier announcement with regard to the signing of a contract between the Ministry of Defence Malaysia and Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd, a subsidiary of BHB, for the supply of four littoral mission ships in collaboration with a partner shipyard in China.

Under the initial contract, the first two vessels would be built and delivered in China and the remaining two would be built and delivered in Malaysia for RM1.17 billion.


Based on the small reduction in the contract cost, it is likely that the equipment originally planned for the ships will remained the same. And the cost of the four ships will still be higher than the three APMM OPVs.

KUALA LUMPUR: THHE Destini Sdn Bhd has secured the contract for three offshore patrol vessels (OPV) for the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency. The contract is worth RM738.9 million, the company said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia on Jan. 19

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 18:09 | Report Abuse

Nope about rm250 each

Posted by Up_again > 2021-12-24 18:09 | Report Abuse

250 million each