Posted by kptMx > 2014-08-30 19:30 | Report Abuse

ok kkms. Have a good weekend. Going out now.

Posted by kptMx > 2014-08-30 19:33 | Report Abuse

smrt? what's that?

Posted by doggie > 2014-08-30 20:42 | Report Abuse

DreamM also go Iris
DreamM Imck... Today I really gambling on this share when fall and feel nervous but now already can had a big smile... Tonight can hav a sweet dream....
29/08/2014 20:24

Posted by ufis > 2014-08-30 22:06 | Report Abuse

i have finished selling my Mpay on fri
i have hantam Iris instead on the same day
the TRS is coming to closure next week a few say
it is going to Iris n not Mpay

Posted by hazsanariffin > 2014-08-30 22:34 | Report Abuse

Their guess is as good as ours

Posted by Semangat > 2014-08-30 23:46 | Report Abuse

Saya tak pernah post di sini lagi tapi ada kawan desak bagi pandangan sikit. Siapa yang dapat kontrak memang belum umum lagi tapi cuba kami fikir.

1 : Siapa kata Dato Dahlan jual? eTRS dan Dato Dahlan buat 'private placement' dengan MPAY 9.99% masa tu. Selepas 'private placement', Dato ambil separuh (50%) jadi 'direct interest', separuh lagi untuk 'pelabur2' lain. Sebelum raya, 64% MPAY shares yang dipegang oleh eTRS dah disapu. Lepas raya yang tinggal disapu habis. Tiada rekod Dato jual. Sebaliknya Dato beli 500,000 lagi dengan harga RM0.30 pada 03 April. Sekiranya Dato dah jual habis, broker yang handle sudah lama balun stok ni, you ingat boleh naik dari 0.22 lagi?

2: Jadi eTRS takde share MPAY? So what? Yang nak projek ni JV eTRS(20%)-MPAY(50%)-GTF(30%). Kalau dapat projek, eTRS sapu 20% untung. Siapa nak teka kos / untung bersih eTRS dalam projek ni?

3: Siapa kata Director Mr. Chew jual RM0.30 tak bagus? Mr. Chew jual direct bukan kurang tapi 5.5mil shares pada harga RM0.30 (Jumlah RM1.65mil). Yang paling penting dalam berita ni, ada orang besar yang nak beli. Siapalah yang nak beli 2mil 2 hari lalu (27 Ogos) kalau tak dapat projek? Ada main kotor ke tak, yang tu kena tanya Mr. Chew.

4: MPAY ada bisnes dengan SMECorp dan MDEC. Dah ada rangkaian payment yang kuat, boleh settle ePayment dalam T+1 melalui bank2. Sebab tu lah mereka berani bid projek ni. Kira I, dengan pengalaman Dato Dahlan dan GTF, JV ni memang kuat. Siapa pula nak teka siapa yang buat projek ePOS (sebelum you beli rokok kan kena scan paspot) di kedai2 duti free lapangan terbang.

5: Khabar2 angin yang terlampau. 2 minggu lalu berita Focus Malaysia kata dapat projek, sehari lepas tu, ada orang tertentu kata tak dapat SELEPAS MPAY umum kata tak ada berita lagi. Lepas tu, datang pulak, 2 hari lalu sebelum closing, kata dapat, petang semalam tak dapat pulak kata ditipu, MOF 'snookered' kontrak ni dan macam2 lagi. You ingat kerajaan Malaysia kerja macam ni ke? Saya berani kata orang2 MOF kebanyakannya berkaliber. Orang yang sebar tu, I tak tahu la.

6: Khabar2 angin ni masa market tengah tension Ukraine dan MPAY ramai yang beli Isnin, Selasa dah T3, T4 hari Jumaat. Campur lagi dengan pelabur yang kejar pagi Jumaat - panik. Volum pun tinggi.

7: SEKIRANYA JV ni dapat, TheEdge kata revenue tahun pertama boleh sampai RM50mil dan 2019 boleh x2. Agak2 kalau margin keuntungan konservatif 30% dan separuh masuk poket MPAY, dapatlah rezeki RM7.5mil setiap tahun, EPS dari projek ni saja boleh bertambah +RM0.0186. Jumlah EPS <> RM0.0212. Sekiranya guna PE 20 (MYEG,DSONIC), TP 0.53. Kalau guna PE 30 (IRIS), boleh capai TP RM0.63 kut. Ini baru tahun pertama, tahun kedua tak perlu beli komputer baru lagi dah, margin keuntungan tak tahu la.

Siapa dapat, tak tahu lagi. Yang penting, jangan main kontra. Kalau percaya, pegang kuat2. Kalau tak, jual aje.

Posted by jl88 > 2014-08-31 00:01 | Report Abuse

Analisis yang betul2 bagus...welcome you..Semangat

Posted by Andy Nch > 2014-08-31 00:21 | Report Abuse

Fully agreed with Semangat's analysis as there is absolutely no one that can predict as this point of stage and frankly, I will suggest not too hear the story telling from London (konon). Have faith and stay focus :-) I am still new with this stock however, have full confidence with the Management.

Posted by pzul > 2014-08-31 00:36 | Report Abuse

Bro semangat..pandangan yang bagus..bernas dan ada fakta..bro nampak sungguh yakin result etrs belum keluar pada hal angin bertiup kencang dah jadi tsunami pun ke arah iris..bro muncul di saat2 genting..pasti ada kawan2 disini yang akan meletakkan harapan yang tinggi pada hujah bro ni..ape pun saya berterima kasih..

Posted by L2 > 2014-08-31 01:58 | Report Abuse

excellent facts, observations, analysis and info from Semangat. tqvvm!

Posted by ufis > 2014-08-31 08:23 | Report Abuse

1.The major shareholder, Mr Chew sold (only holding the min reqd to maintain control), dato dahlan sold n ceased to be a substantial shareholder n so does etrs. Do ur homework...Look into the co. announcements after the private placement been made. Pls note that subsequent disposal by the substantial shareholders after filing Form29(C) need no longer be filed thus made known to the public. Only a director needs to report any transaction.

2. The common thread is that the personalities above were SELLING HEAVILY particularly after the Focus article n the denying by Mpay itself of the article's truthfulness. NONE WERE BUYING.
Who were buying then? The stockists and many small/big retailers who believe in the article yet denied by MPay.
Thats how any major shareholder, substantial shareholder, investors who took up private placement shares will be able to sell in SIZE IF NOT ALL. (Thats the same with Sumatec..made 300m placement at 38sen, drummed up the exit from PN17, which is true tho, improved earnings, the eventual involvement from institutional funds, etc etc n zoom to the 60sen level..n Sumatec key personalities exited at the 60sen level bagging a cool RM60m profits in 1 or 2 months..


3.In the case of Mpay, the TRS will surely chart a new chapter in its growth. NONE of the latest developments suggest its Mpay. Otherwise, MPAY's key personalities will SURELY BE BUYING n it would be trading closer to the 38 sen level. They sold instead to mitigate the risks should it be Iris.
If u have been in the stockmarket long enough, u would want to take heed of the key personalities ACTIONS, particularly so at this critical stage..
Currently i would estimate there's abt 50m STALEBULL shares floating in the market..pls note this, take care n do the necessary..

4. So Mpay friends..dont do WISHFUL thinking or HOPING, but STRATEGIC thinking..

Posted by Semangat > 2014-08-31 10:16 | Report Abuse

Saudara ufis
1 : Kalau tak buat homework, manalah I tahu peratusan yang dijual beli oleh eTRS? Dato bukan lagi 'substantial shareholder' sebab 'indirect interest' dia kat eTRS yang habis disapu tapi Dato tak pernah jual direct interestnya sebelum bulan Mei. Lepas tu, Dato kena file Borang 29C lepas raya sebab jumlah 'direct' dan 'indirect interest' Dato dah kurang dari 5%. 'Indirect interest' Dato sebab Dato ialah director syarikat eTRS bukan sebab dia jual direct. Yang hairannya, kalau Dato tak perlu file transaksi jual-belinya lepas raya, mengapa saudara ufis begitu pasti Dato dah jual? Khabar angin?

2: Mr. Chew jual setiap tahun. Cuba cari co. announcement tahun lepas (2013) bulan Ogos juga - 4mil shares dijual juga. Masa tu belum ada eTRS lagi. Tak dapat projek juga ke?

3: Cuba lihat Buy/Sell% dan 'price spread' hari Jumaat. Siapa-siapa saja yang dah main stok market lama pasti tahu, pattern macam ada orang 'short sell' dengan saham sedia-ada, ataupun takde di tangan. Tengah market tension Ukraine dan T3, T4 hari Jumaat, tak perlu banyak saham untuk jatuhkan harga - sentuh dengan hujung jari pun dah mencukupi.

4: Syarikat IRIS memang syarikat yang baik bukan sebab eTRS tetapi sebab projek IC di Africa, projek bina rumah dengan Felda, kat Papua New Guinea dan lain2. Walau takde eTRS pun, harga IRIS tak sepatutnya di bawah RM0.41. Pada pandangan saya, yang jual IRIS sejak minggu lalu tu sebab mereka dah tahu Quarterly report tak begitu memuaskan bukan sebab eTRS. Projek2 IRIS beratus juta bukan berjuta saja. Impact eTRS atas EPS IRIS tak banyak. Kalau lihat chart IRIS, pasti tahu yang harga IRIS dah 'extremely oversold' masa mencecah 0.33 intra-day sebelum melantun balik.

Pandangan saudara ufis bukan tidak berasas. Soalan saya ialah mengapa begitu pasti sedangkan takde announcement lagi. Yang hairan lagi, pandangan orang yang sebar khabar angin di forum ni lebih diambil berat dari akhbar mingguan. Orang yang main stok market lama pun dapat teka apa niat mereka. Akhbar mingguan tak dapat tukar pendapat sesuka hati.

Posted by ran777 > 2014-08-31 10:26 | Report Abuse

Thanks Semangat for your logical explanation.

Posted by jl88 > 2014-08-31 10:33 | Report Abuse

Good plus constructive reply from Semangat..
Just to make it simple with recap from Semangat 1st post:'Siapa dapat, tak tahu lagi. Yang penting, jangan main kontra. Kalau percaya, pegang kuat2. Kalau tak, jual aje.'

Posted by ufis > 2014-08-31 11:12 | Report Abuse

saudara semangat....baca komen saudara Kukumanis dan dia dah bolih agak dengan tepat!!!!!
selamat tinggal kawan2 Mpay..saya pun dah jual Mpay dan terus masuk Iris hari jumaat...

Posted by ran777 > 2014-08-31 11:46 | Report Abuse

Dato Dahlan have only disposed his indirect interest thro etrs and a small percentage, and ceased to become substancial shareholder. But Dato have still more than 4% in direct interest in mpay and still a shareholder. He have not dumped everything.So my friends, we will look in to some logics rather than depending news frm madiba and gang which looks more doubtful and fishy. Lets us monitor Iris for any drastic upward movement that may give us some clues. AS FAR AS I KNOW ETRS IS FOR MPAY AND I BELIEVE IT VIA FOCUS MALYSIA News. TAKE NOTE THAT FocusM is still persistent on PDZ news.

Posted by leslieroycarter > 2014-08-31 12:13 | Report Abuse

There are substantial points in the arguments projected by semangat . So far , Fokus news has yet to deny the published news ? MOF has not come out openly to announce anything which created the ambiguity , puzzles not fully solved . Agreed that small traders and contrarians been lured into the game. When market dropped in line with other regional corrections , this triggered more on penny stocks, even fundamental stocks also suffered greatly , no one is spared. Many are still pinning that Mpay will get it in the end ...mere hope but on the other hand iris also holds the same and equal advantage . Unless and until black and white is out , no one can claim the last victory . This forum is filled with spams and each one trying to outdo the other by creating all sorts of predictions , there are some truths and some may not be . As an investor , the better of us is to buy low and not chasing high and forget about the e TRS contract in Mpay as the sole basis of investing . In this way , u r safe . But if u chose to play along with all the punters , u must ready to cut loss 2-3 dips and taking profits 2-3 dips , doing the same things same as them . This is the only way to protect yourselves . If u want to earn big , I do not think u may have your ways because there are many stalled bulls from 26c-38c . At any upward price , sellers are more than buyers . The only consolation is that the company still making money and downward thrust is real and will b there . Unless and until Mpay secured he contract , quite difficult to challenge its peak at 38c ....Happy trading ....Selamat Hari Merdeka, Merdeka , Merdeka , Merdeka!

Posted by pzul > 2014-08-31 17:24 | Report Abuse

Is this theme can use or not..????"when operator ask to buy means we sell, when operator ask to sell means we buy..????"ermmmm...just food for tought...better dont jump into darkness..now..bet on luck is not the time..

leslie..i think many staled bull has been choped head last friday..

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-01 10:56 | Report Abuse

Tomorrow hantam this counter and Iris kaw2..both rewarded For Refund Scheme..already hav iris but positive impact more on this counter..unlucky last friday not able to buy..

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-01 10:59 | Report Abuse

Two companies la bro according to my sources..i believe my source..lets see tomorrow..announcement next week..

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-01 11:05 | Report Abuse

U sure not bro kukumanis??? Planning to buy more tomorrow..how sure r u? I'll double confirm my source n come back here..

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-01 11:51 | Report Abuse

Already double check..both parties are expected to share the cake equally..im not try to mislead ppl here..trade at your own risk..in hand i had iris and consider to buy mpay tomorrow..

After reading above comments feel a bit scary about info from ppl here..so i understand why bro kukusmanis mentioned about mislead people

Sorry forumers, im new here..

Posted by leslieroycarter > 2014-09-01 12:23 | Report Abuse

One word : avoid Mpay and Iris.

Posted by Surelaughdie > 2014-09-01 12:25 | Report Abuse

4 words ady. U math so bad u simply advise ppls in diff counter. Aiyoyo

Posted by kelvinfixx > 2014-09-01 14:08 | Report Abuse

MPAY or IRIS? MPAY.

Posted by ran777 > 2014-09-01 15:34 | Report Abuse

Focus M news stand firm.

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-01 15:43 | Report Abuse

Kukumanis i dont know ur source and u dont know mine..so lets just see which source is correct if my source not true then i will lose money and not rely anymore to my source buy call

Lets hope for the best

Posted by Jacky8926 > 2014-09-01 19:19 | Report Abuse

I hate B777. Hope that 888 can bring luck. Huat lah

Posted by pzul > 2014-09-01 20:01 | Report Abuse

Sell when operators ask to buy..n buy when operators ask to sell....operators????? Look see...look see..

Posted by lt54 > 2014-09-01 20:09 | Report Abuse

Why all the bickering abt TRS contract...mpay was n is alrdy doing fine with or without TRS. I hv been making gains for a year alrdy.

Posted by jl88 > 2014-09-01 20:38 | Report Abuse

Agreed with jacky,pzul and it54 point of view..look see...look see...lol

Posted by reccka > 2014-09-01 21:16 | Report Abuse

A lot of "source" here...Madiba a.k.a bullbear777 already disappear and leaving us "hint/tips" that iris getting the contract and bullbear777 already in iris as he said...its look like they "asking" us to buy iris....u know all Madiba & bullbear777 trick many all of us here so all buy or sell call from them better be very2 careful

I think no insiders know who gets the contract its only pure speculation

The only solid and trustworthy news availabel is from Focus Malaysia.

Tomorrow must be important for both counters(MPAY & IRIS), since IRIS is trying to "hide" its Qtrly loss report while MPAY will try to convince investor that TRS contract still within reach

As for me i will not blame madiba a.k.a bullbear777 bcoz its my own decision to invest in MPAY, already make some money in this counter and still in this counter(loss currently).

I wish to wait 4 the result to be announce officialy, if MPAY failed to get the contract its time to move on to other counter..life goes on ✌️

Posted by hazsanariffin > 2014-09-01 21:41 | Report Abuse

Speculations and manipulations in it highest form. Better wait for the news... hati pun senang tiada kacau...

Posted by ran777 > 2014-09-01 21:51 | Report Abuse

Have the same thought with you, reccka

Posted by zaidsmadi > 2014-09-01 21:51 | Report Abuse

kukumanis ...what are you doing here
you play both ways
in iris forum and Mpay forum
manipulating every one ....
clever laa :)

Posted by chy72 > 2014-09-01 22:10 | Report Abuse

Can mpay still can be hold?

Posted by kptMx > 2014-09-01 22:14 | Report Abuse

People, for Mpay, TRS is very significant. Therefore, there is time still to buy whereas, TRS is insignificant to Iris -revenue wise. From a Govt. viewpoint, I think growing Mpay is better than Iris as Iris is pretty well grown.

Posted by laughnonstop > 2014-09-01 22:15 | Report Abuse

wakakaka. she/he come back to con u all and left again.

Posted by reccka > 2014-09-01 22:20 | Report Abuse

Bro chy72 its all up to u..there is a lot speculation for this Trs contract..what matter is how much you could accept loss..its important to hav cut loss and profit taking startegy

Posted by pzul > 2014-09-01 22:27 | Report Abuse

Bro laugh..good point..we turn back the meaning lor..mpay failed is a con????kahkahkah...

Posted by chy72 > 2014-09-01 22:28 | Report Abuse

But as i c so many ppls sale mpay and buy iris last friday .i still hold and worry my capital in mpay.my friend laughing me still hold mpay.

Posted by chy72 > 2014-09-01 22:29 | Report Abuse

I bought mpay last few month

Posted by reccka > 2014-09-01 22:43 | Report Abuse

Bro chy72 its your money and its your decision..

read bro kptMx comment above...TRS hav no significant to Iris revenue..Iris as we know reported a loss last friday, u need to study why Iris not making money? trs contract will not improved Iris financially until after GST april 2015,

How about this year will Iris make profit? Currently they hav a lot of contract in hand still Iris cannot deliver profit..

How about Mpay? U need to study this kind of thing..

Im also new in stock market a lot more to learn..hope other senior here can give u more opinion

At the end its always your decision

Posted by chy72 > 2014-09-01 22:48 | Report Abuse

ya .i still new .may be i shoulx follow them sale all mpay and buy iris.they can buy sAle so many time one week

Posted by chy72 > 2014-09-01 23:01 | Report Abuse

Thank recckA.

Posted by kptMx > 2014-09-01 23:09 | Report Abuse

chy72, follow reccka's suggestion. Put in a stop. I think there are people here who could help out. My stop was 27 cts. and I cut off at 26.5/ Your next stop should be
24.25cts though anywhere above it is also a cut point. Taking a loss is a tough pill to swallow but take it. There is a saying in trading: cut your losses short and let your profits run. Wish you all well.

Posted by Insanity > 2014-09-02 08:08 | Report Abuse

throw all 0.23, i gonna buy all

Posted by tpchuayap > 2014-09-02 08:55 | Report Abuse

Happy investing

Posted by stainlyho37 > 2014-09-02 09:41 | Report Abuse

buy Mpay...GST play...censoft come.....

Posted by Monies888 > 2014-09-02 10:08 | Report Abuse

Manage to buy at at 26.5 lets wait till next week sure fly one together with Iris