INSAS BHD

KLSE (MYR): INSAS (3379)

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Last Price

1.00

Today's Change

+0.015 (1.52%)

Day's Change

1.00 - 1.05

Trading Volume

2,666,100


44 people like this.

45,957 comment(s). Last comment by TheContrarian 16 hours ago

gweilo

1,086 posts

Posted by gweilo > 2013-10-29 13:35 | Report Abuse

this counter should be 1+ oledi !

alexyap

258 posts

Posted by alexyap > 2013-10-29 14:27 | Report Abuse

I dont know the true value of this counter. What i do know is they hold 36% in Inari. Does the PL of Inari brought into consideration of INSAS Financial report?

valueguru

145 posts

Posted by valueguru > 2013-10-29 15:49 | Report Abuse

yes results of Inari does go into Insas' on a proportionate basis.

Sekut Azan

309 posts

Posted by Sekut Azan > 2013-11-02 15:43 | Report Abuse

suitable for long term ?

coolio

620 posts

Posted by coolio > 2013-11-02 16:18 | Report Abuse

up trend..very good for long term for sure

lloydlim

3,967 posts

Posted by lloydlim > 2013-11-03 00:51 | Report Abuse

Coolio, do u hv any other solid technical data to support yr comment? Hopefully u r right. Tqvm

TESSA

7,919 posts

Posted by TESSA > 2013-11-03 13:25 | Report Abuse

imao this counter usually moves with inari, formis, ho hup :)

james7898

320 posts

Posted by james7898 > 2013-11-03 17:31 | Report Abuse

I enter in and out few times with profit . Slow movement counter . Can make profit within contra period.

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 09:35 | Report Abuse

Breakout and a new high....more to come.

PJTrader

112 posts

Posted by PJTrader > 2013-11-04 10:39 |

Post removed.Why?

coolio

620 posts

Posted by coolio > 2013-11-04 10:51 | Report Abuse

cool!!

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 10:52 | Report Abuse

71....wow...wow....double...triple wow!!!!

Sekut Azan

309 posts

Posted by Sekut Azan > 2013-11-04 10:58 | Report Abuse

what the fuck !!

g888

32 posts

Posted by g888 > 2013-11-04 11:06 | Report Abuse

yes !

yong

444 posts

Posted by yong > 2013-11-04 11:07 | Report Abuse

UNEXPECTED.........

Sekut Azan

309 posts

Posted by Sekut Azan > 2013-11-04 11:08 | Report Abuse

aku kaya !!

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 11:09 | Report Abuse

if can be "expected", that's not securities market already :D :D :D

ykinvestor

586 posts

Posted by ykinvestor > 2013-11-04 11:09 | Report Abuse

Inari and Inari WA will follow soon

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 11:09 | Report Abuse

Not really if you really dig in.

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 11:11 | Report Abuse

hahahaa... well, u would have "digged" this one b4 it flies :D

when it up, anyone can say anything :D see what happen when it dive... hahahhaahaaa...

sephiroth

14,139 posts

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-11-04 11:15 | Report Abuse

Join in late at 0.685 but still more than 50% to NAV. Another excellent FA by kcchongnz


Posted by kcchongnz > Nov 1, 2013 09:24 AM | Report Abuse

Insas and Graham net net

In 1932 at the bottom of the Great Crash, Ben Graham wrote an article on Forbes about the cheapness of the market and how companies are being quoted in the market for much less than their liquidating value, as if they were all destined to be doomed. He called these types of stocks, "net nets", companies that sell for less than its net current asset value, or net net working capital. Graham used the following formula to compute the liquidation value of a company.

Net Net Working Capital = Cash and short-term investments + (0.75 * accounts receivable) + (0.5 * inventory) – total liabilities

It's the lowest form of valuation you could possibly do because it ignores everything about the business and just focuses on tangible assets. The formula states that;
• cash and short term investments are worth 100% of its value
• accounts receivables should be taken at 75% of its stated value because some might not be collectible
• take 50% off inventories, due to discounting if close outs occur

Insas’s latest balance sheet as at 30 June 2013 was used to compute the net tangible asset and Graham net net values. Besides cash, the net net values of quoted and unquoted investments owned are also taken as 100% of the book value. Note that tax assets, property, plant and equipment, Goodwill and “other assets” are taken as worth nothing.

The appended table shows that the Graham net-net value of Insas is RM1.23. This is more than twice its closing price of 64 sen on 30 October 2013.

Besides Insas has been profit averaging 6 sen per share for the last 10 years. It has on average positive free cash flow and a healthy balance sheet.

Why is Insas trading at such a big discount to its Graham net net value? I guess is investors have not much trust in the management in maximizing minority shareholder value. No dividends have been declared until recently, although it has been buying back its shares. So with the beginning of this more tangible dividend distribution, will Insas be re-rated in accordance with its value?

Insas Graham net net
Cash and equivalent 532,894 100% 532894
Investments 120,290 100% 120290
Investment properties 151,432 100% 151432
Associate companies 90,145.63 100% 90146
Receivables 345,289 75% 258967
Inventories 15,830.73 50% 7915
PPE 59,765 30% 17929
Other assets 43,503 0% 0
Total assets 1,359,150 xxxx 1179574
Total liabilities -325,949 100% -325949
Net assets 1,033,201 xxxx 853,625

No. of shares 693,334 xxxx 693,334
NAB 1.49 xxxx 1.23

yong

444 posts

Posted by yong > 2013-11-04 11:15 | Report Abuse

Will it break 0.750 by today??

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 11:20 | Report Abuse

since 26/9 the signal is very strong already!! :D

Posted by jacksonchoo > 2013-11-04 11:23 | Report Abuse

so what is the TP?

Tripaka

2,945 posts

Posted by Tripaka > 2013-11-04 11:24 | Report Abuse

play catchup with instaco

sephiroth

14,139 posts

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-11-04 11:29 | Report Abuse

easily worth north of 1.00, inari's stake and profit contribution is the real booster

CityHunteR

626 posts

Posted by CityHunteR > 2013-11-04 12:26 | Report Abuse

be careful to this share, dangerous zone

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 12:27 | Report Abuse

claim profit out first :D

gweilo

1,086 posts

Posted by gweilo > 2013-11-04 12:41 | Report Abuse

if you sell you lose

feifun

376 posts

Posted by feifun > 2013-11-04 12:50 | Report Abuse

if you sell u sure win, if u don't sell u might win bigger or losse

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 12:57 | Report Abuse

actually, ppl who had paid attention to the chart would have collected since mid sep, for this group of ppl of cos they will take profit first :D

given track record of inari, still worth to keep some and see how it goes :D

sephiroth

14,139 posts

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-11-04 13:10 | Report Abuse

insas stuck below 60 sen for 10 yrs, FY13 eps 9.13 sen, now PE 8.1 X not excessive, if u sell, u will see potential $$$ gone with the wind

Sekut Azan

309 posts

Posted by Sekut Azan > 2013-11-04 13:23 | Report Abuse

today can reach 0.80 ?

gweilo

1,086 posts

Posted by gweilo > 2013-11-04 13:42 | Report Abuse

I suspect something going on company aggressively buying back stock, lots of cash, low pe, price embarrassingly far below nav, how can it go down ! to a day trader maybe but to an investor its a dream stock because its worth a whole lot more. Even if liquidated it is conservatively very conservatively worth 2 to 3x more. How many shares r like this? Many selling far higher have NO value at all. Sell those why doncha.

yong

444 posts

Posted by yong > 2013-11-04 14:36 | Report Abuse

BREAK 0.750 D.........

chewjs

176 posts

Posted by chewjs > 2013-11-04 14:46 | Report Abuse

hard to believe this stock moving!!

Trisven

301 posts

Posted by Trisven > 2013-11-04 14:57 | Report Abuse

how high can it close today...? =)

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 15:00 | Report Abuse

More room to go....next resistance at 93sen.

steviebull

294 posts

Posted by steviebull > 2013-11-04 15:08 | Report Abuse

wow...

Trisven

301 posts

Posted by Trisven > 2013-11-04 15:08 | Report Abuse

driving fast.....will be meeting 0.80 soon...=)

Wei Xin

128 posts

Posted by Wei Xin > 2013-11-04 15:08 | Report Abuse

insas n ghlsys racing.,.

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 15:10 | Report Abuse

looking to clear 80c!

coolio

620 posts

Posted by coolio > 2013-11-04 15:10 | Report Abuse

like a rocket :D

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 15:13 | Report Abuse

TA also moving at the same time....are they up to something. Both have stock broking activities....hmmmm??????

sephiroth

14,139 posts

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-11-04 15:15 | Report Abuse

knock knock 0.80 but nobody answer yet but soon enough

imoogi99

1,640 posts

Posted by imoogi99 > 2013-11-04 15:17 | Report Abuse

U knock at the wrong door. The address should be 0.93.

connie9170

37,452 posts

Posted by connie9170 > 2013-11-04 15:19 | Report Abuse

maybe is house no. 1 soon :)

shawn3333

264 posts

Posted by shawn3333 > 2013-11-04 15:25 | Report Abuse

Locking in profit 1st at 0.790... :)

iafx

4,632 posts

Posted by iafx > 2013-11-04 15:26 | Report Abuse

going to try 80c again...

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