Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:08 |

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Posted by tehka > 2022-09-08 10:10 | Report Abuse

Correct loh ular! Win judi or loose judi, it is my own judi. I agree with ular

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:10 | Report Abuse

You lucky that time so can earned so much from many suiyee lah. Lagi cerita old history kah. Can you earn like that at current kah. If yes then wish you good luck lah. No beed kpkb at here lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Zhuge_Liang

I bought Hengyuan around 6.50, I buy and hold for mid term.
I sold all of them around 17.00, I made million in 2017.
I will follow the same making huge money formula, buy and hold until the end of 2022.
Hope history will repeat itself.

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:12 | Report Abuse

Correct lah. But dont mislead ppl keep cerita facts n figures that nit even facts but just an imagination with own assumption lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

tehka

Correct loh ular! Win judi or loose judi, it is my own judi. I agree with ular

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:12 | Report Abuse

Reference:

worth spending 5 min to understand though the english is quite difficult to grasp. After 3 minutes into the overview, the main part comes and its easy to understand.

'When does Cash Flows Hedge Reserves (under OCI) gets transferred to P&L?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCSncmfB8k

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:13 | Report Abuse

Ya lah. 5 minutes after watch liao. HY price can rebound kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

probability

Reference:

worth spending 5 min to understand though the english is quite difficult to grasp. After 3 minutes into the overview, the main part comes and its easy to understand.

'When does Cash Flows Hedge Reserves (under OCI) gets transferred to P&L?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCSncmfB8k

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:17 | Report Abuse

he he.. price up a little later also can...

you go through and comment ular pls

Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 8, 2022 10:13 AM | Report Abuse

Ya lah. 5 minutes after watch liao. HY price can rebound kah. Haiyoh. Correct?
Reference:

worth spending 5 min to understand though the english is quite difficult to grasp. After 3 minutes into the overview, the main part comes and its easy to understand.

'When does Cash Flows Hedge Reserves (under OCI) gets transferred to P&L?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCSncmfB8k

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:20 | Report Abuse

Just like Bungaraya someone at there cakap next few Qtrs will be better and the share price wont become penny stock again lah. Why suddenly oil price turun and Bungaraya become penny stock again leh. Same Same mah. Many dont believe the story lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 10:20 | Report Abuse

I prefer oil price at USD50 and refining margin stay at double digits figure.
This will benefit refinery a lot in reducing their working vapital and at the same time earned a double digits refining margin.

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2022-09-08 10:21 | Report Abuse

all in?

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2022-09-08 10:22 | Report Abuse

just buy, don't think and calculate

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:23 | Report Abuse

Ular OKU lah. After watched few second and decide not to watch leh. Bcos Ular hardly can understand he cakap apa leh. His accent too strong lah. Hard to understand at all lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

probability

he he.. price up a little later also can...

you go through and comment ular pls

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:24 | Report Abuse

Ya kah. You bu no need to tell other to buy leh. Not many like to follow unreliable unknown person in the forum leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Yu_and_Mee

just buy, don't think and calculate

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:24 | Report Abuse

Then where is the demand for Oil and your Sales in quantity in finished products?

Posted by Sslee > 2 minutes ago | Report Abuse
I prefer oil price at USD50 and refining margin stay at double digits figure.
This will benefit refinery a lot in reducing their working vapital and at the same time earned a double digits refining margin.

Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:25 | Report Abuse

Unrealized Cost of Hedging Reserve (COHR) , loss / gain: (A-M) x V

A = hedged crack spread value, 12.7 USD/brl
V = barrels volume of refined products hedged, 18 million
M = Marked to Market pricing of the hedged refined product at end of reporting period (mark to market)

Since at the end of June 22', the avg crack spread of the refined products, e.g gasoline at 31.6 USD/brl, the opportunity lost for the period of hedging is

Unrealized Cost of Hedging Reserve (COHR):
= (12.7 - 31.6) USD/brl x 18 million barrels
= - 338 million USD or MYR 1,490,267,000

...

Now lets see what happens when say at end of Sept 22, Gasoline crack drops to its usual average of 5.7 USD/brl

Unrealized Cost of Hedging Reserve (COHR):
= (12.7 - 5.7) USD/brl x 18 million barrels
= 90 million USD or gain of MYR 395,000,000

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2022-09-08 10:25 | Report Abuse

no time to think who sell. you can never know

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2022-09-08 10:25 | Report Abuse

just buy now

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:25 | Report Abuse

EPF fund mgr kah. They are professional know when to sell leh. Correct?


qqq3333

who is selling at high volume yesterday? this are professionals.

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 10:25 | Report Abuse

Ular,
It ok I watch few second also stop watching

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2022-09-08 10:26 | Report Abuse

buy now

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-08 10:27 |

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:27 | Report Abuse

for the same demand, if supply is higher the oil price can be lower

however refinery can dictate high margin (crack spread) as they are the constraint for producing refined products

Posted by BobAxelrod > Sep 8, 2022 10:24 AM | Report Abuse

Then where is the demand for Oil and your Sales in quantity in finished products?

Posted by Sslee > 2 minutes ago | Report Abuse
I prefer oil price at USD50 and refining margin stay at double digits figure.
This will benefit refinery a lot in reducing their working vapital and at the same time earned a double digits refining margin.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:28 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:28 | Report Abuse

HY need high vol and high oil price and high margin to earn explosive result but subjected to hedging gain or loss leh. Can all the factors just happen at the same time for HY to enjoy the best result. Think lah. Macam kena 4d ini macam lah. Kena 3 nombor pun takda get any prize lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:29 |

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Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:30 | Report Abuse

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:30 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:31 |

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

only need high margin...all that matters is the crack spread

it has no relation to oil price you can say

Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 8, 2022 10:28 AM | Report Abuse

HY need high vol and high oil price and high margin to earn explosive result but subjected to hedging gain or loss leh. Can all the factors just happen at the same time for HY to enjoy the best result. Think lah. Macam kena 4d ini macam lah. Kena 3 nombor pun takda get any prize lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by qqq3333DieFather > 2022-09-08 10:32 | Report Abuse

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333DieFather

qqq3333 before your FATHER DIE he ask you to take care.Dont lose in share market until kena HANTAM by gangster in Bangsar like in 2017.
qqq3333 family members Ham Ka Char n
qqq3333 family members comitted suicide.
qqq3333 sister FCUK with his brother
All this qqq3333 family are useless people

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:36 |

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-08 10:36 | Report Abuse

Holland people are millionaires.
Attacker here is B40.
Still continue to attack millionaires here.
We can afford to lose all, no feeling at all.
Million profit made in 2015, 2017 and 2020 are still intact.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:36 |

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:37 | Report Abuse

the enlightened one...give us some light

Posted by Income > Sep 8, 2022 10:35 AM | Report Abuse

ProfB, you teach ajaran sesat kah by looking at what you want only while ignoring the rest of the factors?
Speechless

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:38 | Report Abuse

Sharing is caring lah. Not only millionaire got money baru can share mah. The money you earned from 2017 also from the ill gotten one leh. You so proud lagi sharing that kah. At the expenses of many suiyees leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Zhuge_Liang

Holland people are millionaires.
Attacker here is B40.
Still continue to attack millionaires here.
We can afford to lose all, no feeling at all.
Million profit made in 2015, 2017 and 2020 are still intact.

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-08 10:39 |

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:39 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 10:41 | Report Abuse

Those previously using gas will need a subsitute for gas since Russia cut off gas to EU

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:42 | Report Abuse

No vol with high margin how much can earn only. Simple hisab leh. You jual 10 units at net rm20. You get rm200. If you can sell 100units at rm20 you get rm2000 leh. Volume count also lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


probability

only need high margin...all that matters is the crack spread

Posted by vinc3362 > 2022-09-08 10:43 | Report Abuse

Posted by UlarSawa > 10 minutes ago | Report Abuse

HY need high vol and high oil price and high margin to earn explosive result but subjected to hedging gain or loss leh. Can all the factors just happen at the same time for HY to enjoy the best result. Think lah. Macam kena 4d ini macam lah. Kena 3 nombor pun takda get any prize lah. Haiyoh. Correct?
_______________________________________________
U only need High vol and high margin lah !!!!
After so much sharing and info presented u still don't get it kah ? Haiyoh !!!!!

Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 10:43 | Report Abuse

pot calling the kettle black

Posted by Income > Sep 8, 2022 10:42 AM | Report Abuse

I hold my head high even if I am B40.
Useless to be Millionaires but keep your useless facts and figures and very cocky and kurang Asam attitude.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 10:45 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 10:45 | Report Abuse

Why kpkb talk karma lah. By looking at the saham price. Karma U Turn hit you leh. Dont keep talking karma if you yourself dunno apa meaning leh. Always think you are millionaire you are always right kah. Haiyoh. Correct?


Zhuge_Liang

All lies about crude oil price drops will affect refinery stock.
All are lies to cheat all innocent investors.
Are they shameful to be shameless liars and cause so much losses to small investors ?
Karma will hit hard on them, the time will come.

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