Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 15:52 | Report Abuse

R u serious? Where and which ID? Not only me criticize Evergreen meh? Got other ID criticize? Wanna frame and accuse me also use some logic lah....

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 15:54 | Report Abuse

U meh same! Own ID also kena banned. Why i3 admin doesn't ban me? Because unlike u guys, I don't break any rules loh. Look back my past comments and see how many of my comments blocked by admin?

Posted by air01557 > 2017-03-08 15:56 | Report Abuse

you stupid talking nonsense here while the smart one are making money in so many other counters - pl learn and CHANGE

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 15:56 | Report Abuse

So asnwer here mah. Why is Evergreen's stock price collapsed when u are so confident that it is good?

I recognized that "The stock price is a reflection of its fundamentals".

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > 2017-03-08 15:57 | Report Abuse

whether break rules or not that is very subjective.. they can think my words / Evergreen5101's as vulgar but we may not think so...

anyway, even if we use vulgar words.. we gave real info.. unlike u a sissy hypocrite... u keep manipulating info... we despise u.. that is why we scolded u....

Posted by stockraider > 2017-03-08 15:57 | Report Abuse

raider ask u samething leh ?

R u serious? Where and which ID? Not only me criticize Evergreen meh? Got other ID criticize? Wanna frame and accuse Dolly also use some logic lah..!!

No evidence don simply accuse lah...!!

GIVE PROVE 1ST LOH....!!

Raider comment;
BTW Star
"Not only me criticize Evergreen meh? Got other ID criticize? Wanna frame and accuse me also use some"

All the other who accuse dolly is use....using many other IDS is u also loh...!!

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 15:57 | Report Abuse

LOL how do u know I'm not making money? Real stupid is air01557...

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 15:59 | Report Abuse

So an ex-prisoner is not guilty? What logic is that? No wonder u belong to the half-truth fakers.

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:04 | Report Abuse

I've given so many proofs on Evergreen mah. It is real that it amassed MASSIVE debts RM 205,257,000. U seriously think the company doesn't need to raise more money to fund various agenda meh? Such as the following which are already started and running:

1) CAPEX averagely RM 30m annually
2) Give out dividends to retain long-term investors/shareholders? Not enough & will be halted again.
3) Restarting particleboard segment
4) Starting RTA

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > 2017-03-08 16:05 | Report Abuse

haha... sxckperfomer will accuse air01557 is either me, raider or evergreen5101...

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > 2017-03-08 16:05 | Report Abuse

if ex-prisoner is still guilty now... Hevea used to nearly go bankrupt once.. now why u buy it?

double standard here?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:07 | Report Abuse

Dolly ever posted here that Evergreen spent and still spending about RM 30m per year on CAPEX. Look at even the latest ANNUAL PROFIT MARGINS:

EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%

Why so not consistent and not even double-digit growth DESPITE the heavy CAPEX annually?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:10 | Report Abuse

Why Hevea's PROFIT MARGINS keep climbing so high when it started on CAPEX since 2012?

HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 14.9%

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5095

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > 2017-03-08 16:15 | Report Abuse

stupid fellow dun understand English...


sxckperformer: only look at the past results (but double standard on Hevea... Hevea used to have thin profit margin but improves now.. why Hevea can, evergreen cannot?)

wise investors: look at the past + future...


Hevea: the price is now fully reflected.. fairly priced in.. not much margin of safety..

Evergreen: currently still major in MDF sales, but understand the higher margin of RTA products and high premium particleboards and is expanding towards these 2 business, while maintaining their expertise in MDF (defensive play)....

So there is much room for Evergreen to grow the profit margin...
Hevea - not much growth

Look at the past of evergreen results and management experience:

They have been making handsome revenue and profit in the past.. only until 2013/14, there was oversupply/glut of MDF.. causing their results not good... but they are slowly recovering...

and more importantly.. when it expands into RTA & particleboard lines.. it can easily eat up Hevea share market...
that is why sxckperformer is so worried now and badmouth evergreen with manipulated info...

Posted by joetosh > 2017-03-08 16:17 | Report Abuse

mana punya stupid fund manager buying evergreen share... diaorang x baca ke hutang sykt byk... mcmana la diaorang bole jd fund mgr...

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:18 | Report Abuse

Money also not enough. How to retain existing shareholders/investors by giving out dividends? Investors want promising deals. Does Evergreen borrows more to do just that?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:24 | Report Abuse

Told u don't eat back own chips mah. Now u meh headache some more sleepless nights. Ha ha!!

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:25 | Report Abuse

Sure suicide again. LOL

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:26 | Report Abuse

EVERGREEN = NEVER GREEN... LOL

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:41 | Report Abuse

Ya never, 0.9

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:41 | Report Abuse

Mr debts how are u? Insider selling? What a joke

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:43 | Report Abuse

Fail la mr debts, Ur analysis fail 99

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:45 | Report Abuse

Stuck in 0.885?

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:45 | Report Abuse

What u say all wrong man, collapse?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:48 | Report Abuse

Start to bark near 5pm? U blind?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:50 | Report Abuse

If u have guts & power come 1 to 1 tomorrow. Set a time & everybody can see whether I can push it down. Deal?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 16:54 | Report Abuse

jackng6, no guts better run back to ur cage. ThankQ

Posted by joetosh > 2017-03-08 16:55 | Report Abuse

mr.Debts... nice nickname...

Posted by stockraider > 2017-03-08 16:58 | Report Abuse

Latest update on evergreen on raider gang investment

Total 3.57M units @ rm 0.9294 rm 3.318M
bought 200k@ rm 0.89 rm 180k

total 3.77M @ rm 0.9297 rm 3.498


Bought another 200k units at Rm 0.89 2nd session...!!

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 16:59 | Report Abuse

Yes

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 17:02 | Report Abuse

Stockraider, do u want to buy more? at what price u will sailang?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 17:03 | Report Abuse

jackng6, what price u will finally admit it's a collapse? Don't talk nonsense. Name the price.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-03-08 17:14 | Report Abuse

RAIDER BUYING EVERYDAY MAH.....!!
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASON IT IS GOING UP LOH....!!

ALTHOUGH NOT THE MAIN REASON LOH....!!

THE MAIN REASONS ARE MORE & MORE PEOPLE REALISED THE TRUE VALUE OF EVERGREEN, THATS WHY IT IS GOING UP EVERYDAY TO THE DISMAY OF STARPERFORMER LOH....!!

EVERGREEN A GREAT BUY LOH....!!

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:23 | Report Abuse

Evergreen5101.... I'm evergreen lover

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:24 | Report Abuse

I'm evergreen investor

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:26 | Report Abuse

I have read about evergreen corporate presentation from evergreen website. Interesting

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:27 | Report Abuse

Now waiting for 2016 financial reports. Excited to know about it.

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 17:29 | Report Abuse

LOL! Ha ha!! When money coming into own pocket, the feeling is VERY great. Why do ur money flow out to buy leh? Not smart move.

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 17:30 | Report Abuse

Why want to put out your money to be STUCK leh?

Stockraider, u must be very stuck suffering heavy unrealized paper loss.

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:31 | Report Abuse

Last time when I bought penta below 0.75.... same situation happen. Got havoc at penta i3 ...telling penta will drop to 0.40. So ...happy that something similar happen to evergreen. Havoc negative issue. That why I invest in evergreen. Will history repeat. Hope so.

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-08 17:31 | Report Abuse

Sor zai will admit he's Evergreen lover. While u wait for ur money stuck, smart people are making lots of money.

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:32 | Report Abuse

You can check my history comment about penta.

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 17:34 | Report Abuse

Then...hope u can send an email to me. Only discuss about evergreen future growth.

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 19:34 | Report Abuse

Mr. Debt, u say it's collapse but the price now 0.905, who talk nonsense now? insider selling? Haha!! You dunno shame one arh? saying the fake out in here?

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 19:36 | Report Abuse

Massive debt o, massive, collapse o, Mr Debts...

Posted by jackng06 > 2017-03-08 19:38 | Report Abuse

Dunno which joker say insider selling, kappa

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 23:15 | Report Abuse

I love Evergreens.

Posted by aries_saham > 2017-03-08 23:20 | Report Abuse

I like doing business by buying shares. Easy ... just study potential future business. Select good management whom can take care your business.

Posted by Khairul Nizam Amin > 2017-03-09 02:58 | Report Abuse

there is no future in hevea ..
when rubber tree is exhausted , Hevea is no longer in business. although at this time for the highly profitable like selling goreng pisang...

Posted by starperformer > 2017-03-09 08:31 | Report Abuse

Risks:

Escalating raw material and labour costs;
Weaker-than-expected demand and selling prices for MDF; and
Delay in commencement of new production lines (in particularly, RTA and particleboard).