Stop given the inform such as someone pressing down the price to collect, this statement already used for more than 1 year. Don't tell me everyday also people pressing down the price, not logic. If BIG SHARK want to collec the shares they will let the price drop to limit down and don't need one day pressing 1 or 2 cents. Sigh ! Sigh! Sigh!
when they want to collect, they won't be pushing. It will be stupid of them to collect at high price when they could do it cheaper. Also some accumulations may take months, not days or weeks.
Since when is jcy part of the semi conductor industry? What type of semi conductor devices and circuitry do they make? Confuscious say better do some homework and look up dictionary for semiconductor and then read the business back ground on jcy on this page (then compare to mpi and unisem) to avoid being the laughing stock (joker).
I will forgive your ignorance so let me try to make it clearer for you. Jcy makes MECHANICAL hard disk components like base plate and actuator head etc. Unisem and mpi make SEMICONDUCTOR components like electronic circuitry in electronic devices, ie actual circuit boards and chips etc. SSD is an example of a semiconductor chip. These are actual electronic components which jcy do not make.
It's not important for me to define what is hard disk and SSD. What matters most to me is the growth prospect for JCY biz and it's link to the semi con industry.
Not going to waste anymore time. The smart ones will understand. Those holding this counter are just waiting for the earnings to deteriorate and price to fall further most likely from next quarter or following quarter. You only need to look at its historical earnings since ipo listing date.
JCY is classified under Precision Engr industry while Unisem/MPI/Inari/Globetronics are under Semicon on Bursa. The semicon company shares have moved far ahead in 2014 in line with global trends but this does not mean JCY as a mechanical HDD component manufacturer will not have its day in the sun. Granted, the HDD industry is undergoing consolidation and component prices were pressured by SSD competition but better days are here after a disastrous 2013. I take comfort that certain JCY directors bought, and are still holding, millions of JCY shares over 2013/2014.
Sham01 JCY par value is RM 0.25 recently it give 1.25cents dividend. JCY is a cash rich company and 2QFY14 current ratio is more than 2.5X. Expected revenue for full year 2 billion.
HDD last time people aim to Thailand manufacturing, but after flood and the politic issue, may be benefit to Malaysia HDD factory, so if JCY doing HDD, can be good, but now use Pan drive more.
Western Digital, Seagate Estimates Rise at Evercore on PC Results Rob Cihra of Evercore Partners raised his estimates on Western Digital (WDC) and Seagate Technology (STX) following the better-than-expected PC numbers from Gartner and IDC yesterday afternoon, writing that “HDD market units are now expected to come in around 136-137mil in Q2 (down just ~1%Q/Q and up ~2%Y/Y), as much as 4mil above initial 132-133mil forecasts.”
He also thinks pricing held firm in the quarter for drives. He now models Seagate making $3.36 billion and $1.10 in EPS in the quarter, up from $3.33 billion and $1.07. Western may have made $3.66 billion and $1.81 versus a prior $3.57 billion and $1.73.
PC results should get even better in the current quarter, a 14-week quarter, which happens only ever six years, he notes:
Apart from any confusing 14th week noise, we otherwise expect PC supply/demand trends to remain benign-to-positive for HDDs, as the broader PC market continues to stabilize/flatten Y/Y, but we also see some signs now that higher-priced/margin Enterprise HDD demand firmed up exiting the Jun-qtr.
Cihra prefers Western stock, on which he has an Overweight rating, and a $105 price target. Seagate he rates Equal Weight.
Neither stock is seeing much lift from these results in the broad market sell-off, with Western shares down 22 cents at $94.08, and Seagate off 26 cents, or 0.4%, at $58.22.
PC demand may have remained benign 2Q2014 but this does not seem to have rubbed off on HDD component manufacturer's JCY's share price which is still stuck around 71 sen. A large part of the problem is earnings visibility which is the main excuse given for JCY not being covered by research houses other than CIMB since its 2012/2013 earnings debacle. No one can guess what is coming Q to Q . Where can you find a company that can scale the heights of profitability one year and plunge into losses the next? That would scare off most serious investors. I can only fault Management for not courting, and not giving sufficient guidance, to research analysts on its coming performance each quarter.
Jcy current ratio 2.46x (Working Capital for 2QFY2014), Invertories, Trade and other receivable is RM565,444 Million for 2QFY 2014,Calculate yourself for JCY earning for 3QFY and Full Year 2014. Free Cash Flow until 2Q2014 is RM 65,392 Million (Investor Account and dividend). Dividend given until 2Q is 1cent + 1.25cents = 2.25cents. Mainly Customer Western Digital, Seagate and IBM (Support new posted by Johnny). Thanks Johnny for updated the news.
WD & Seagate share price hit new high again, will it more and less give some benefit to JCY? I think yes. the main problem is, tradition HDDs demand is no as high as SSD and flas memory. if JCY can involve they production with SSD and scandisk.... they price will fly.
How can JCY shares trap anyone? There is adequate liquidity to sell a million shares nearly every single day. If current price is not up to expectations and you have lost faith, sell, take a loss and move on to something else. Unfortunately, we investors have to dance to the tune of the stock performance and not the other way round. Stocks often don't perform in the short time frame we want but this does not mean it is lousy.
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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Posted by Lai Yin Keat > 2014-06-10 20:06 | Report Abuse
Investing based on hope and hearsay can yield some 'suprises'