C Choo, what i meant is for long term investment. As the share price has gone up by 10% within a short time, it may retrace in the short term. You may wait for it to retrace before going in. The company is due for its financial result end of august. If the results are good, it will continue to go up. I think there may be limited downside risk in the short term because the share price is supported by the dividend
Currently MNRB has NET cash & investment for sale (mostly bonds) (after minus debt) at ~ RM 5/share. At current prices the business entity of MNRB is being sold for free.
Those that is hoping for a fantastic Quarter might be disappointing. Although the insurance business remains robust, it might have to mark to market its large investment holdings in MGS bonds, so the next earning from investment will likely be flat or only slightly positive.
I'm swap MNRB to RCE capital at 27.5sen, for its upcoming 1.5sen TE, yield at 5.45 % nett, comparable with MNRB 8.88% gross yield or 6.66% net yield; 1% lower yield.
MNRB shares should go up higher than its recent peak (RM 3.86) once the final gross dividend of 32 sen per share is announced next week, provided its latest earnings are in line with market expectations.
I'm bit afraid of MNRB very fluctuation earning, the quarter result may even record loss if claim spike....
RCE although record two consecutive loss due to provision for impairment assets to comply more stringent BNM guidance, but the provision has all take into account, the next quarter will turnaround into positive earning.
The absolute value is much lower at 27.5sen vs. MNRB RM 3.63, the movement of minimum 0.5sen already enough to make profit.
Now already in down trend mode. By though that not harm hold for long long long time, then prepared to stuck in this just for the dividend sick. Then u will loss the other opportunities to earn other better stock. Furthermore the result are deteriorating. BLOOD will be see again.
actually even for long term i will not suggest to buy MNRB. ie if u buy now because of the dividend yield, later on the share price down like skyrocket due to weak company profit, then the current price that u in will be loss even u cover dividend net 0.24 cents.
As now the KPS EGM already on, the after disposal special dividend of 0.235 cents vs current price 1.88 are far better then MNRB dividend 0.24 vs current price of 3.55
Therefore buying MNRB will bring u to loss making in later part. And stuck in this share for long long long period. Where u lost opportunity time to buy other potential stock.
I think with 32 sen dividend or more than attractive 9% yield, MNRB share price should react positively once these 32sen dividend is declare by these week.
my opinion is with this kind of market uncertainty, most people will rather reserve cash for better stock rather than go for high dividend yield but stuck the cash in it in. As u can see even it announced on 30 Aug (which is usual date). But the entitlement will be said Oct (assume AGM on end of Sept). During this period more bargain on better capital gain stock. Unless B4 the entitlement date the share price is drop dramatically otherwise who wanna to stuck in this high price stock.
Apart from surplus in underwriting, MNRB also derive substantial income from stock investment. Its Q2 result will be from 1 Apr- 30 Jun, KLCI index increase from 1667 to 1773, an increase of 106 point.
Its a risk management to include some high yield or low beta stock in portfolio to act as buffer to cushion those with relatively higher risk but have more high growth potential, high beta or theme derive stock.
dj down by 170 pts...now is the time to test the holding power....looking at the overall mkt condition now, 1700 for klci is still considered high...if u got money...can try to average ur price by averaging it for every drop of 50 pts
in this bear market taken over bull. I only can said whatever dividend also useless. People only concern if I bot now, do I have opportunity to sell off later. Furthermore it insurance business not doing well, it will affect their financial position.
Even giant like Maybank also wanna to sell off their insurance business.
hng33 no need to wait and see. I been monitor this stock for 4 months. From not yet inform got dividend to announce dividend. This Friday declaration is just an formality only. Once I hit top price, it will drop dramatically. and take 2-3 months to up a bit.
I don't think there is neutral or nil effect once dividend is declare. We should wait and see the effect of dividend to the share price once it is declare.
hng33 u just look at Kseng even already announce this year going to declared 0.96 cents dividend progressively the share price also drop like hell. not to said MNRB only net 0.24 which is 7.22% vs Kseng 17.7% (0.96/5.40).
Don't keep flow back to ur fundamental in this bear market. No analysis or fundamental are useful in this bear market.
People just need CASH to survive.
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C Choo, what i meant is for long term investment. As the share price has gone up by 10% within a short time, it may retrace in the short term. You may wait for it to retrace before going in.
The company is due for its financial result end of august. If the results are good, it will continue to go up. I think there may be limited downside risk in the short term because the share price is supported by the dividend