wakakaka, no need to look left and right, it is definitely play down of thheavy due to WA expiring. Some dick head think they want to play tough on small fish
Hi, I am new here and just came across to discover that, some of the blog over here is not bad, example like KLSE Technical Analysis, They were writing analysis yesterday for JianKun, today it fly like god, hit their Geng
some desperate souls who tried hard to push down the price for WA so that they can benefit from it...if WA up before expiry, some people will be bleeding hard :):):) wakakakaakaka
let the culprit finish throwing the mother then it will move...I was hoping some big institution will shore up the price last minute..wakakakaka..this bugger will be busted
THHEAVY, UMWOG, DAYANG, SKPETRO? Which one to BUY?
^-^, Alex, you should buy us a drink after this.
SKPETRO DAYANG UMWOG THHEAVY PE 16.4 15.5 26.7 56 Forward PE 9.8 12.9 29.2 0 P/BV 1.74 3.28 2.46 1.21 Dividend 0.75% 2.5% 0 0 Current Ratio 1.15 1.44 3.26 1.36 Quick Ratio 1.15 1.43 3.1 1.33 D/E Ratio 1.61 0.48 0.37 1.2 Market Cap 18.5b 2.5b 6.96b 0.5b
Do not rely so much on historical P/E as it is just a guidance. Put more emphasis on Forward P/E as it should reflect the current full year result. Among the four stocks, SKPetro fair the best. P/BV for SKPETRO also selling at the cheapest. Current Ratio and Quick Ratio should not be a big issue for SKPETRO, DAYANG and UMWOG. The one that likely has a problem is THHEAVY. Out of 5 calender years, 2 in RED. with the Forward PE is Negative! (expecting a bad 2014 full year result).
When evaluating this 4 stocks at one go, you should take THHeavy out to have a more meaningful study. SKPETRO, DAYANG and UMWOG are belong to the big cap boys (command higher Forward PE. Average should be 15+- while THHeavy is a mid cap boy, looking at 10 to 13 forward PE. Keep in mind, the chairman's statement / CEO or MD's speech plays a very important role on determining the future flow of the company:
Be alert on the wordings like:
We see tough times ahead. We are expecting a challenging time Performance is not up to the expectation etc etc.
They are telling you what will happen to the company for the current calender year. Able to deliver or likely not to deliver.
At the point of writing, OIL PRICE IS STILL DROPPING. If you insist to put THHeavy as one of your consideration, let's see more details that I am sharing with you: (The info is extracted from their filing with Bursa)
THHeavy
Supporting share price : NIL Tabung Haji owns 30.06%
THHeavy drops so much, Lembaga Tabung Haji owns 30% have not come out to support their shares By looking at the company's value, do you want to start the ball rolling?
UMWOG is tightly gripped by UMW with 55%. The trading pattern is a bit difficult to read. Plus the stock is pricey with forward PE 29. I will give it a pass.
Dayang is acceptable but more expensive than SKPetro. Difficult to gauge what KWAP is doing. If you like the stock, buy at dip.
SKPETRO: This one worth a good drink from you. Do you see EPF patterns? EPF and ASB has been a net buyer for the past 2 weeks. When the price dipped at 7/11/2014, that is where EPF go all out to collect a whoppy 4.5m shares closed at 3.08. In Bolehland, this INVISIBLE HAND does comes in handy.
On 11/11, Humble Pie made his first buy @ 3.08. True enough 10/11 and 11/11 EPF has been nett buyer again supporting the price to close at 3.09. Regardless of EPF purely want to support the price (not to break below 3) or seeing the value in SKPETRO, EPF has been working hard on SKPETRO shares price.
Can you read EPF pattern much easier than the other 3 stocks? Now you know why I go in @ 3.08, 2 days after it touched 3.08 lowest?
BTW, both of us do not have Crystal Ball, but do you want to guess on 12/11, 13/11 and 14/11 why the price of OIL DIPS FROM 80++ to 70++ but SKPETRO CLOSED GREEN? We may wait for a few days for the filing with Bursa to gauge your guessing. But my sixth sense telling me, my answer is the same with you.
Looks like someone in TH doesn't want the current warrant holders to exercise the warrants at expiry, otherwise the number of shares in the market will rise prematurely, which in turn dilute the future EPS, considering they have already Proposed Rights Issue with Bonus Issue 5 to 1 recently. The more investors exercise the warrants, the more costly it will be for TH to bear. So, depressing the cmv below its exercise price will hopefully deter the issuance of more new shares at this moment. And as soon as the th-wa is suspended on the 5Dec, do expect cmv to rise rapidly to level that are so attractive and enticing for the new proposed RI with BS 5 to 1 to take place. Notice there are no price and time set for the new proposed RI w BS 5 to 1.
don't forget that the RI w BS 5 to 1 have not set yet. The main shareholders might want to buy their rights at the lowest price possible. which I foresee it to be 0.43, which is when 10 shares entitle to 10 rights plus 2 bonus shares. of course they want to buy at cheapest. ...0.43 - 15%, right issue at 0.36... so the price is not set yet as Tom2629 said, there is no price and time set for these new proposed of RI w BS 5 to 1.
they are killing 2 bird with 1 stone, by pulling down the mother share price to 0.465, pushing the wa holders to sell at loss and doing their 5 days averaging price at their intended price. look at the negative news last week when the ceo said in news that they are having bad times and rumours of the company being delisting. and this week positive new came out that they get a new project. Whereas the announcement of them successfully gotten the project was last month which they purposely hold it from announcing it publicly.
Valuations from CIMB and HDBS are pretty much spot on - valued at abt RM1.28 back in Oct 2014. ... that is based on the number of shares issued at the time when the valuations were done. If one work the formula calculations backwards using today's financials, certain amount of shares issued must be capped in order to maintain a valuation of 80sen ps (which we all knew somebody bgt in 10% shldgs recently at 80sens). So if more shares are issue as a result of the exercise of wa, (before the proposed R! w BS 5 to 1 takes place) will no doubt devalue the actual book value much lower than 80sens. That means Mr 10% is going to be very very upset. So in order to stop new shs being issued at this point, The only way is to discourage wa holders not to exercise them, is to have TH traded lower than its exercise price at 51sens at least until 5dec when will be suspended. Its a clever corporate manoeuvre to save cost and to look good when they actually announce the prices for the proposed RI w BS 5 to 1. See nothing is really that free after all...LOL. ... just pricing it differently thats all.
Tom2629....hi there. Like yr thnking skill...but i wld put it that "they r d ones....picking up the warrants/capping it at 51cts. Which if u observe...warr r quite thinly traded today after much sell down frm previous trading days.....once the warrants dries up/when they hv had enough. The main shares will be adjusted up eards...they hv till 22dec for convertion.....by then it shld be mother 68cts.
Winmore and Hardrocker: you both pretty much grasp what I m getting at and no doubt, the current market value must be at reasonably attractive level to entice investor to take up the RI w BS 5-1 especially with 15% guaranteed profit plus 1 fully priced bonus share. But 68c is not attractive enough, hardrocker. And between 5dec to 31dec, TH have to climb up significantly higher before they MUST announce the price for the RI w BS 5-1. Unless TH decided to delay that proposal which is highly unlikely given the the contracts they have won.
wakakakakakaka....thheavy go up for sure >RM1.00 next month....wakwakaakakaa I can't believe I can be a fortune teller also since every ah kau ah beng can be also...wakakakaka
if I were the one taken up the private placement at a premium price, if I don't know something big is going to happen to thheavy, I will dump and run...use your brain dude..waakakakakaka
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wakakaka, no need to look left and right, it is definitely play down of thheavy due to WA expiring. Some dick head think they want to play tough on small fish