Posted by hhhiii123 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Wait for better signal to average down, still yummy dividend

Posted by keithtrade > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Yes dividend is 23 sen but price dropped 37 sen so in real terms thats quire a big drop of 14 sen at 5%

Posted by keithtrade > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

This often happens with small caps , not sure if knee jerk reaction or due to algorithms but might be worth some research

Posted by hhhiii123 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

it is cash rich company with almost zero debt, I not worry so much lol

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

coming can keep buying next div 0.26

Posted by gooman > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

TA Securities keeps 'overweight' on tech sector, top picks Inari, Elsoft and MPI.
https://klse.i3investor.com/web/stock/overview/0127

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

still cheap

Posted by stockraider > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

EMS strong recovery is expected in June.....with very weak RM.....it is expected EMS business will do very well loh!

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

ya coming week will rebound

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

cheap price cuurent

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

last price for below rm3

Posted by geary > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

FPI... consistently earnings growth around #11%...plus dividend growth...3%...Hold some @2.95...!?
Slow Momentum...50/200SMA....@4.20.!?

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

tp can be 4.3 follow value

Posted by Income > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

https://youtube.com/shorts/6FzhgVv9o68?si=WItGx0QZ3BUxUCFi

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

keep buying as well

Posted by wongmeeyen1113 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Good stock

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

ya wong super gem

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Phison coming?

Posted by pantor > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

will cross RM3 soon

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

surely my tp is 4.3

Posted by cola > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

waste of time to attend the AGM when the management does not really answer questions.....

Posted by MULTIEVER > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

may i know what questions you asked? any input about their agm?

Posted by cola > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

I asked but did not get any answer. I don't consider "do our best", "strive to do better" as answers...
Someone asked for example of what product that is considered smart audio, and the answer given was "all audio product are considered smart audio, they have many features....":-(

Posted by MULTIEVER > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

chill, all the boss same pattern one in agm, a generic response for a generic question, it not just fpi only.

should ask more specific and spicy question that quoting with fact and numbers, rather than using terms that sounds like marketing punya adjective slogan, like "smart", "organic", "best" etc. all this terms too blurry and generic.

if i were you, properly ask "is fpi product will up-to-date with Ai related tech in coming year?" "how much capex fpi will increase before upcoming FY".

of course it is likely you still getting blurry/ generic answer. just carry on, they also uncertain about it.

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

keep buying

Posted by pantor > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Worth at least RM4

Posted by observatory > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

FPI boss is cautious when answering certain types of question, no matter how the questions are crafted. This can be seen from past AGM minutes. For example, ask anything about its clients he would tell you sorry they’re bounded by NDA with the clients. Probably he believes that even telling you product features would have given away too much and jeopardize the NDAs!

Based on my own experience, FPI is among the average. No worse than many companies I’ve come across.

Very few company management/ board go all their ways to make sure shareholders understand how the company works. One of the exceptions is Allianz. It gives me very good impression.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

In the first quarter of 2024, FPI reported a revenue of RM153.9 million and a net profit of RM32.4 million, resulting in an EPS of 12.69 sen. And the EPS stays above 10 Sen after another QR

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

ya

Posted by pantor > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

It is Ok if the management does not disclose much of the info of its clients to the shareholders, as long as it can make good profit, give good dividend, maintain good cashflow and remain cash rich, as is the case now.

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

ya div 9% tp can t set 4 above

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

PEG ratio about 0.7 ? Over the past decade, Formosa Prosonic Industries (FPI) has shown notable growth. Analyzing the available data, FPI's earnings per share (EPS) have increased significantly, highlighting a robust performance trend.

In recent years, the EPS growth has been quite strong. For instance, the EPS for 2022 was RM0.42 compared to RM0.39 in 2021, and earlier, it was RM0.21 in 2020 versus RM0.17 in 2019. Over the last five years, the company has achieved an annual EPS growth rate of about 25%, indicating a consistent upward trajectory in its financial performance.

Additionally, the company's dividend payments have also increased, reflecting its growing profitability. From 2014 to 2024, the dividend grew from MYR0.06 to MYR0.23 per share, demonstrating an annual growth rate of approximately 14%.

Overall, FPI has maintained a strong growth rate over the past decade, making it an attractive investment option within the materials sector.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I just posted an update on FPI here.
https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/DividendGuy67/2024-06-13-story-h-159639979-FPI_Update

I like to think there's a majority chance a breakout will soon happen to the upside, but that's not my primary objective - my main goal is to own this stock for its high dividend yield, and if there's a price gain, that's a bonus.

Never be greedy. My position size here is around 3% capital. Not expecting to be wrong, but if it turns out that I'm wrong, then, no major drama - just collect the dividends, and wait for the next high probability setup.

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

coming can fly

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

EngineeringProfit:
> PEG ratio about 0.7 ? Over the past decade, Formosa Prosonic Industries (FPI) has shown notable growth. Analyzing the available data, FPI's earnings per share (EPS) have increased significantly, highlighting a robust performance trend.

May I know how you calculated the PEG Ratio? I got 0.24, based on the following:

PEG Ratio = PE / 5-Year EBITDA Growth Rate
= 5.73 / 24.3
= 0.24

Are you using a much lower growth rate? If so, may I know why?

> Overall, FPI has maintained a strong growth rate over the past decade, making it an attractive investment option within the materials sector.

I consider FPI as a hardware manufacturer. Not sure why you place it in the materials sector.

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Hi all -- While the FPI's share price has improved considerably in recently months, I remain concerned about its not so impressive top line number. As a result, FPI's PS Ratio now stands at 1.1, well above its historical norm of around 0.7. Is this a course for concern?

I added more when the price dipped recently after the x date. But, the above concern keeps me from adding more, despite FPI trading at such depressed PE Ratio, improving operating margin, and impressive ROIC.

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

th use roe and nta to

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

price in rm4

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I try not to over-analyze any one stock, because I have too many experiences over the past 3 decades, where I analyzed in great detail (like at least 100 times more detail), thinking I knew the most, but one day, the market threw me a curve that I could never have predicted, notwitstanding numerous detailed analysis everywhere.

In short, as retail investors, we will never ever know everything no matter how much we analyze, research, access to management and board, etc.

Because of these occasional bad past experiences, I have given up owning say 10 stocks or less - it is too few because if I lose 10% capital, it's a lot harder to make it back than losing just 2% or 3% capital.

So, my minimum number of holdings is at least 40 stocks. My experience is I only need to spend 2% of the time to analyze the big picture, and it explains 98% of the results over the long term. In short, I play the statistics. Every stock idea should be capable of being explained in 1 minute. If you can't explain the idea in 1 minutes, I pass.

So, what is FPI's one minute idea?
1. Long term chart - rising
2. Small cap with room to grow.
3. Past 10 years business growth is proven, whether RPS, EPS, DPS and/or NAPS growth - it has proven itself.
4. Speakers business is niche - FPI didn't grow like this over past 10 years if it wasn't doing something right - true next 10 years is unclear, nobody really knows, but the edge is better than 50/50.
5. Excellent financials and balance sheet today and in the past - that's good enough to earn my trust.

In short, it's good enough for me to own up to 2%-3% of capital on this stock. I have no intention to own 10% or 20% capital into this one stock - if you want to own this much, you need much greater assurance than I need, but I doubt the extra 10-100 times more analysis is going to beat the 1 minute statement above in the long run.

Just my 2 sen.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I forgot to mention what I always look for before triggering which is good valuation, attractive entry price, buy during accumulation zone, can visualize higher earnings and DPS in 5, 10, 20 years time too.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

My reference is the typical institutional investors like unit trust fund managers, insurance companies, banks. All of them are highly diversified, owning anywhere from 50 to 500 different stocks. In theory, they are supposed to be the true experts on analysis of stocks, with the huge professional resources they have, access to management, etc - much more than I have. Yet, they don't invest in 5 or 10 stocks. It's good to ponder why. Because if you read their IB reports, they are always surprised after next quarter or next few quarters. Noone can eliminate surprise by analysis.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Since I started investing in Bursa, my win rate is pretty good including paper gains/loss. 82% of my stocks investing/trading results in win, only 18% is a loss, and all 18 are paper losses so far which a majority I expect to be temporary.

I suspect my win rate is higher than many professional fund managers. Notwitstanding, I know enough to know that my analysis have limitations, that no matter how good an analysis I do, I will still be proven wrong from time to time.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Interesting ... out of 54 open stock positions, 13 are losses, 41 winners and the $ winner far offset the losers. I have another 18 mostly trading stocks that I have closed and 18 / 18 are winners with no losers. Total winner 59 / 72 ~ 82%.

The small paper losses are mostly investing positions which include AMFIRST, BAT (trading), CARLSBG, CHINWEL, HEIM, HEKTAR, MAGNUM (trading), MAXIS, PBBANK, RAPID (trading), these 10 are extremely small % loss - I am very confident, with time, they will turn profitable, mostly by doing nothing, but some may require trading (e.g. BAT - cannot keep for too long). The 3 bigger % loss are ARREIT, ASTRO and BESHOM, all 3 are hopeless - don't enter them (I'm not), don't average down (I'm not) - my plan is to just leave them there to die a natural death as they are small. These 3 has VERY successfully reminded me for a long time - a constant reminder - not to buy a stock that is going down - that reminder has successfully enabled my portfolio to keep making new all time highs as a result.

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

u total capital is how much @dividend guy

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

good fa

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

DividendGuy67:
> My minimum number of holdings is at least 40 stocks. My experience is I only need to spend 2% of the time to analyze the big picture, and it explains 98% of the results over the long term. In short, I play the statistics.

I find owning too many stocks tiresome. In my younger days, I was a lot more gung-ho and held numerous positions. However, over the years, I have come to realize that I prefer owning stocks for the long term—at least 5 years—and favour those that are more predictable.

I aim to own around 20 stocks at a time, though there is often some overlap as I trim and gradually exit richly valued stocks while buying those I perceive to be undervalued. Generally, I try not to allocate more than 10% to any one particular stock.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@Thirai, it's gung ho indeed if you can't cope, but if you can, do note institutional investors prefer to own much more than 50-100 stocks, due to their fund mandate and benchmarks.

Here's 3 examples:

1. PB Dividend Builder Equity Fund. Benchmark = 90% FTSE Bursa Malaysia Top 100 (FBM100) & 10% 3 month KLIBOR. Their benchmark is 100 stocks. Their overseas exposures are USA (10.0%), Taiwan (4.2%), China (2.1%), Korea (1.5%) across many different sectors i.e. their portfolio contains 3 digit stocks.
2. PB Growth Fund. Benchmark = KLCI = 30 stocks; They have exposures in US (7.0%), China (6.0%), Taiwan (1.9%), UK (1.2%) i.e. 3 digit stocks.
3. PB Islamic Equity Fund. Benchmark = FTSE Bursa Malaysia EMAS Shariah Index comprising of 220 stocks. They also invests 8.1% in the US, 4.7% in China, 3.1% Netherlands.
etc.

More important is to avoid large losses, which ever the style.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@jeffrey, I explained how many stocks here:
https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/DividendGuy67/2024-06-11-story-h-159701327-Portfolio_All_Time_High_Profit_Watermark_June_Update

Posted by jeffrey1166 > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

tq guys 67

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

DividendGuy67:
> It's gung ho indeed if you can't cope, but if you can, do note institutional investors prefer to own much more than 50-100 stocks, due to their fund mandate and benchmarks.

Good for them. I fear I do not have that level of capability or bandwidth, let alone inclination.