MSM MALAYSIA HOLDINGS BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): MSM (5202)

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Last Price

1.32

Today's Change

+0.10 (8.20%)

Day's Change

1.20 - 1.38

Trading Volume

11,747,400


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3,812 comment(s). Last comment by newbie9893 15 hours ago

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:17 | Report Abuse

i have 2,303,500 shares average 47.7c

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:18 | Report Abuse

no body knows

apolloang

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Posted by apolloang > 2020-04-22 00:19 | Report Abuse

I tot u said u bought 1.70 200,000,then 34cts 1 mil only

Kanm100

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Posted by Kanm100 > 2020-04-22 00:19 | Report Abuse

Oldchinaman, u can be substantial shareholders soon.

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:22 | Report Abuse

raw sugar price drop to us 10c p pound this month april, is about rm 1 per kg,.the refined sugar selling rm 2.90 p kg, and commission is 6%

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:23 | Report Abuse

from the figures above, MSM shoulkd make very good profit

apolloang

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Posted by apolloang > 2020-04-22 00:27 | Report Abuse

u curi curi buy another 1,103,500 shares recently? hehe

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:27 | Report Abuse

I have 0.327676463%

apolloang

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Posted by apolloang > 2020-04-22 00:29 | Report Abuse

why when 25cts below u diam diam no tell us to buy? hehe

Kanm100

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Posted by Kanm100 > 2020-04-22 00:31 | Report Abuse

If rumour become real, possibly limit up tomorrow. Hahaha

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:32 | Report Abuse

today bought quite high 300k @ 61.83333333c, yesterday cheaper 421.1k @ 47.17c

Kanm100

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Posted by Kanm100 > 2020-04-22 00:33 | Report Abuse

Oldchinaman, look like the story is real.

apolloang

18,163 posts

Posted by apolloang > 2020-04-22 00:36 | Report Abuse

why u bought so much on this hefty loss making stock? got any insider news?

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:36 | Report Abuse

yesterday i am very confidence , but today not

Kanm100

173 posts

Posted by Kanm100 > 2020-04-22 00:38 | Report Abuse

Maybe delay a day, tomorrow will be back ur confidence.

apolloang

18,163 posts

Posted by apolloang > 2020-04-22 00:39 | Report Abuse

must announce something or else financial results keluar if more losses then KO

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:39 | Report Abuse

on 19 march i only bought 200k @ 25.5c . and i have old stock 180 k @ rm1.60

Posted by oldchinaman > 2020-04-22 00:44 | Report Abuse

sugar is necessity, MSM share price in yr 2018 was about rm 4.50. we just pay about 10% now. and the paid up is not to big 0nly 702.98m

sugarfree

25 posts

Posted by sugarfree > 2020-04-22 06:54 | Report Abuse

Wow so much for a loss making company while it has made into news headline stating loudly epf ceased to be sub. shareholder. U must pray so hard that it wouldn't collapse further along with its next even worse losses to come.

sugarfree

25 posts

Posted by sugarfree > 2020-04-22 06:57 | Report Abuse

The title says it all

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2020/04/21/loss-making-msm-attracts-speculative-interest

It's nothing more than speculative interests lol

sugarfree

25 posts

Posted by sugarfree > 2020-04-22 07:00 | Report Abuse

Con artists everywhere nowadays. I hope retailers don't get caught up by some hipster con artist(s)........poor thing!

emil

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Posted by emil > 2020-04-22 07:06 | Report Abuse

MSM limit down today....EPF out of MSM.
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epf-no-longer-msm-malaysias-substantial-shareholder

RedEagle

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Posted by RedEagle > 2020-04-22 07:18 | Report Abuse

"Harga minyak jatuh ke negatif!" "Habis lah!"

Rileks, harga minyak mentah sedunia memang jatuh teruk, tapi yang jatuh 306% jadi $-37.63 setong tu cuma harga bagi "West Texas Intermediate" (WTI) keluaran US.

Untuk minyak Brent (keluaran Shell UK), harga masih positif, dalam $25. Harga minyak "Tapis" keluaran Malaysia pun masih $28, jatuh 1.7% je.

Minyak mentah ni macam kurma juga. Lain tempat lain keluaran, walaupun semua dikenali sebagai kurma. Ajwa tu keluaran Madinah, Deglet Noor Algeria, Medjool dari Morocco. Kualiti pun lain-lain.

Minyak mentah pula, selain WTI dan Brent, ada juga ESPO (Rusia), Urals (Rusia), Maya (Mexico), Minas (Indonesia) dan macam-macam lagi. Keluaran Malaysia selain "Tapis" ada juga "Bintulu Condensate", "Miri" dan lain-lain. Kualiti berbeza-beza ikut kandungan sulfur ("sweet" atau "sour") dan graviti ("heavy" atau "light").

Minyak WTI ni "sweet" dan "light", ramai suka beli, sebab tu harganya dijadikan "benchmark" dan dilaporkan dalam berita setiap hari bersama-sama Brent. Tapi harga WTI tak mewakili semua minyak yang ada di pasaran.

Yang lebih penting, kita kena faham minyak mentah ni didagang pakai "futures" atau kontrak ke hadapan. Katakan kau nak stok minyak pada Mei 2020, kau kena order semasa April.

Minyak mentah ni pembeli dia adalah syarikat-syarikat pemprosesan minyak. Diorang tak beli on the spot tapi beli in advance pakai "futures" supaya boleh manage risiko perubahan harga.

Yang jadi negatif ni adalah kontrak untuk penghantaran Mei. WTI ni bersifat "physical delivery", kau order untuk Mei, minyak tu secara fizikal sampai kat kau selaku pemegang kontrak Mei.

Gila apa, time-time ni siapa nak pakai minyak. Stok minyak masih berlambak sebab hampir satu dunia masih dalam lockdown. Kereta tak leh jalan, kapal terbang tak leh terbang, nak buat masak pun tak boleh walaupun "sweet" konon.

Jadi, disebabkan kontrak untuk Mei 2020 akan expire pada esok waktu tempatan US (21 April 2020), orang just lepaskan kontrak tu tak kisah apa harga. Better rugi duit kontrak dari minyak tu hantar kat kilang kau. Sebab tu harga jatuh ke negatif.

Kalau Brent tak jadi macam tu sebab dia boleh "roll over", tak nak kontrak Mei boleh jual ganti dengan kontrak Jun. Sebab tu tak ada masalah yang sama.

Tapi harga kontrak WTI untuk Jun sebenarnya masih OK, masih di paras $20, dan akan naik selepas itu sebab minggu lepas negara OPEC (yang diketuai Saudi) dan bukan OPEC (seperti Rusia dan US) dah capai persetujuan potong bekalan sebanyak 9.7 juta tong sehari (10% daripada jumlah keluaran dunia) untuk bulan Mei dan Jun.

Harga minyak ditentukan oleh supply dan demand, kalau harga jatuh sebab demand jatuh, maka negara-negara pengeluar minyak volunteer untuk cut supply supaya naikkan harga balik.

Tapi apa pun, berita minyak negatif ni adalah good reminder bahawa "the era of oil is coming to an end".

Dan untuk tahun-tahun akan datang, "cheap oil" akan jadi "new normal".

Akan ada banyak syarikat-syarikat minyak kecil yang lingkup setahun dua ni dan dibeli oleh syarikat-syarikat besar.

Macam dulu pasaran minyak dikuasai oleh "Seven Sisters" (BP, Shell, SoCal, Gulf Oil, Texaco, Exxon, Mobil), selepas kejatuhan harga minyak 1980-an tinggal jadi Four Sisters saja: SoCal, Gulf Oil dan Texaco bergabung jadi Chevron (pemilik Caltex), Exxon dan Mobil bergabung jadi ExxonMobil (pemilik Esso).

Dulu harga minyak mahal sebab minyak dulu scarce resources. US sampai nak berperang dengan Iraq untuk dapatkan stok minyak. Now korang bagi minyak free kat US pun belum tentu diorang nak. Lambakan minyak tu yang jadi harga negatif tu.

Sejak zaman Obama (2009-2017), US mula menghasilkan shale oil untuk ganti pergantungan kepada minyak petroleum, dan sekarang US adalah pengeluar minyak terbesar di dunia. Shale oil ni punya supply almost limitless, tak macam petroleum sekali gali habis. So basically harga minyak tak akan kembali ke zaman kegemilangannya lagi.

Sebab tu Saudi semua kena longgarkan cara hidup konservatif diorang untuk tarik pelaburan asing.

Brunei pun mula kena berfikir pasal "diversification" (pempelbagaian) ekonomi. "Oil is a curse". Kebergantungan kepada minyak bukan saja lambatkan negara jadi negara industri jadi negarta maju, malah ia akan menggugat kelangsungan hidup negara di zaman new normal.

moneyfind

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Posted by moneyfind > 2020-04-22 08:30 | Report Abuse

Tq sugarfree to remind us to be cautious.

I willing to cl at 0.2..

Stock rule: buy on rumours sell on news.

I never see speculative counter hv 2 big big green vol for 2 days.& yesterday is bad day for stock market & today also same.

If today still hv big vol & end up with Green,why not juz keep hold?

8888_

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Posted by 8888_ > 2020-04-22 09:23 | Report Abuse

Sugarfree still right today?

8888_

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Posted by 8888_ > 2020-04-22 09:32 | Report Abuse

How many of you here really is sugar free?

Woodswater

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Posted by Woodswater > 2020-04-22 09:54 | Report Abuse

Hi inflation era coming

Free sugar?
Gst coming?
Nation deficit hit 4.7% under stimulus plan!

jennychin

570 posts

Posted by jennychin > 2020-04-22 10:52 | Report Abuse

Syed Mokthar or Robert Kouk can buy kah?

goodgain

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Posted by goodgain > 2020-04-22 11:04 | Report Abuse

syed mokhtar sugar companies with 40% of market shares still consistently get 100m profit per annum while msm with 60% market shares, doing badly. Really good time to handover the company to him.

Woodswater

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Posted by Woodswater > 2020-04-22 11:04 | Report Abuse

Merging!

Wakakakaka

Woodswater

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Posted by Woodswater > 2020-04-22 11:05 | Report Abuse

Monopoly

Wakakakaka

signalmw

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Posted by signalmw > 2020-04-22 11:09 | Report Abuse

All in

moneyfind

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Posted by moneyfind > 2020-04-22 11:14 | Report Abuse

Once it cross 38mil share transaction,i all in

newbie5354_

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Posted by newbie5354_ > 2020-04-22 11:16 | Report Abuse

If Syed Mokhtar or Robert Kuok buy how much they must pay? 0.65-0.8-RM 1 or more?

jennychin Syed Mokthar or Robert Kouk can buy kah?
22/04/2020 10:52 AM

dxbman

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Posted by dxbman > 2020-04-22 11:33 | Report Abuse

Strong buy 2nd round. Will shoot up in the afternoon and tmrw

sanjanx

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Posted by sanjanx > 2020-04-22 11:35 | Report Abuse

For the fools who are queing more then 1 Million shares for sale in MSM, pls understand that you are causing the shares not to go up somemore because of this. Why not immediately sell at your preferred value instead of queing up.

Lucky81

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Posted by Lucky81 > 2020-04-22 11:42 | Report Abuse

They are operator with multiple accounts. Big shark!

Lucky81

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Posted by Lucky81 > 2020-04-22 11:43 | Report Abuse

They want to collect low!

Woodswater

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Posted by Woodswater > 2020-04-22 11:44 | Report Abuse

Volumes seemed piling
Later all road blocks cleared!

Pn in charge!

Virus rout sends Robert Kuok 37 spots down Forbes' 2020 richest list - The Edge Markets http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/virus-rout-sends-robert-kuok-37-spots-down-forbes-2020-richest-list#.Xo0vQSGuvlA.whatsapp

Woodswater

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Posted by Woodswater > 2020-04-22 11:44 | Report Abuse

Volumes seemed piling
Later all road blocks cleared!

Pn in charge!

Virus rout sends Robert Kuok 37 spots down Forbes' 2020 richest list - The Edge Markets http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/virus-rout-sends-robert-kuok-37-spots-down-forbes-2020-richest-list#.Xo0vQSGuvlA.whatsapp

Lucky81

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Posted by Lucky81 > 2020-04-22 11:44 | Report Abuse

Buy more and keep until end of this year, muahaha!

minniemic

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Posted by minniemic > 2020-04-22 11:46 | Report Abuse

looking very strong

Posted by spectator > 2020-04-22 11:53 | Report Abuse

Ha??? Worth this value? Got ppl chase one ah? Hmmm...sorry no thanks

moneyfind

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Posted by moneyfind > 2020-04-22 12:07 | Report Abuse

Need 38mil share transaction to confirm....

dxbman

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Posted by dxbman > 2020-04-22 12:24 | Report Abuse

Last chance to buy at 0.63

moneyfind

244 posts

Posted by moneyfind > 2020-04-22 12:30 | Report Abuse

Now cross 38 mil....ok la,can sleep well with sweet dream..

sanjanx

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Posted by sanjanx > 2020-04-22 14:55 | Report Abuse

For the fools who are queing more then 2.52 Million shares at Rm0.65 for sale in MSM, pls understand that you are causing the shares not to go up somemore because of this. Why not immediately sell at your preferred value instead of queing up.

rizal_de

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Posted by rizal_de > 2020-04-22 15:00 | Report Abuse

people are free to do what they want.

sanjanx

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Posted by sanjanx > 2020-04-22 15:00 | Report Abuse

now 2.78 M

sanjanx

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Posted by sanjanx > 2020-04-22 15:01 | Report Abuse

Posted by rizal_de > Apr 22, 2020 3:00 PM | Report Abuse

people are free to do what they want.
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Of course, same i can comment too

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