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4,605 comment(s). Last comment by cwc1981 6 hours ago

Paul Tan

146 posts

Posted by Paul Tan > 2023-07-04 20:10 | Report Abuse

another new Kia electric car coming https://www.kia.com/my/showroom/niro/features.html

Paul Tan

146 posts

Posted by Paul Tan > 2023-07-05 13:52 | Report Abuse

Kia Niro electric car launched https://paultan.org/2023/07/05/2023-kia-niro-ev-launched-in-malaysia/

RJ87

5,101 posts

Posted by RJ87 > 2023-07-10 17:29 | Report Abuse

So heavily manipulated. Don't know if gonna be a push up or push down after manipulation.

Posted by cluelesstrader88 > 2023-07-17 12:39 | Report Abuse

push down and scare all the ikan bilis away

gohkimhock

2,969 posts

Posted by gohkimhock > 2023-07-17 16:43 | Report Abuse

nice dividend coming..

Posted by weixuan0325 > 2023-07-17 17:02 | Report Abuse

not yet ex-date share price already drop like waterfall

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-17 20:20 | Report Abuse

BAuto got no EV to offer. Mazda's design is getting dated. Peugeot is so unreliable. Mazda not as affordable as Toyota or Honda, and not cheap like Chinese Geely or Proton... not here not there. No future.

When Tesla Model 3 price is announced, if RM160K, who want to buy Mazda?

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-17 21:35 | Report Abuse

am driving a 15 years old Honda car, thinking of changing soon as it is giving me lots of problem now. Been researching on EV, and Mazda CX-30 is the worst EV in the market, even Volvo makes more sense. CX-30 with that small back door for RM198K with 200km range is some kind of joke. Tesla Model Y RM199 with 400km+ range, and they've yet to release the price for Model 3, which will be around RM160-170K with 350km+ range. MX-30 is a toy.

MX-30 uses Lithium-Ion battery, whereas Tesla uses LFP battery from CATL, LFP has less density compares to Li-io but other than that, it is safer, higher cycle rate, doesn't suddenly burst into flame, last longer than Li-io.

BAuto has close to no EV, people rather buy BYD than Mazda EV. That is the problem with Japan, they ignored EV while China pumped in billions into EV/Batteries 10 years ago. USA got Tesla, Germans' BMW is so so as the heart of the EV is with the battery and currently China has the best battery tech for EV, by CATL and BYD, both control 98% of LFP batteries, ford will be licensing this tech from them and build a factory in USA. Volvo got help from Geely.

If BAuto cannot secure a dealership with a chinese company selling EV, they are gone in 10 years time. Pegueot and KIA got nothing much to show also.

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-19 00:31 | Report Abuse

Model Y 10,000 bookings. The future is EV old man. Model 3 not yet launch, if priced at RM150K, Mazda confirm GG already. Toyota Honda still can survive as they offer City and Vios. Mazda all so expensive. BAuto got no good EV to offer. Finish.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-malaysia/

gohkimhock

2,969 posts

Posted by gohkimhock > 2023-07-20 12:09 | Report Abuse

@BursaVulture so the RM1bil quarterly sales are all hell money? Consumers buying Mazda and not Proton for fun? Have you drive a Mazda before?

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2023-07-20 12:13 | Report Abuse

not the future is EV.... is we have killed the auto industry for our national pride
with the advantage given to national automakers, they were supposed to be innovative and catch up ,, however we only depend on other countries tech and parasited till today on the policies
It is no longer feasible to do so.... as EV makers are destroying traditional car making models , making a new dawn
THe killer will be BYD... not Tesla if they managed to bring down prices somemore how to compete>>> habis cerita
Hence mahathir idea failed after all ... we were supposed to have flying cars with this policy but we have ntg we became complacent and parasited ( nvr advanced )

The_JQuestion

1,529 posts

Posted by The_JQuestion > 2023-07-20 12:15 | Report Abuse

forever laggard ... it is time to scrap proctectionalisme which has nvr advance our countries auto industry anyways ( it is the truth !)
Hopefully, PH has the power to do so,, however geely had invested big in tanjung malim

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2023-07-20 12:37 | Report Abuse

Tesla Model Y selling at RM200,000.00, it will not last long, soon it's competiveness will lose to BYD coming to Malaysia shore.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2023-07-20 12:44 | Report Abuse

BYD Cars Malaysia have announced that the BYD Dolphin hatchback EV will be launched in Malaysia on July 28, 2023, which is the end of this month.
https://paultan.org/2023/07/14/byd-dolphin-ev-launching-in-malaysia-on-july-28/

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 12:50 | Report Abuse

@gohkimhock

Mazda is for the mid-range priced market, Proton goes for the low-mid range market, more towards the affordable segment. Honda and Toyota somewhat there too, granted that Toyota has more offerings, some higher end like their premium SUV and MPV.

Look at Kia NiroEV at RM256K at 460km range, who is going to buy this? KIA EV6 RM320K.

This is like the birth and launch of iPhone by Steve Jobs. Only iPhone has the best smartphone in the world then and all the other phone makers scrambled to find an answer, many died along the way like Nokia, Alcatel, Motorola, Ericcson, Panasonic, Sony, Siemens, LG.... only Samsung survived, and new players emerged, mostly Chinese smartphone makers and they dominates the market.

Tesla is like Apple, BYD and Chinese EV makers are the new players like XiaoMi, Huawei, Vivo.... question is, who is the Samsung that will survive this onslaughter? I am betting Toyota will be Samsung. BMW, Mercedes, all those eurpean marquee will still survive as they have their brand to rely on. Most small players will die a slow and painful death.

Tell me, what EV does BAuto has to counter Tesla? Now we wait for model 3 price, if it is priced very close to Mazda mid range model, then I tell you Mazda Malaysia is finish.

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 12:51 | Report Abuse

@StartOfTheBull

BYD will take the lower end market, Tesla is like Mercedes or BMW, people buy because of the 'cool' factor, like the first few iPhones.

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 12:52 | Report Abuse

@gohkimhock

Rm1B is not hell money, it is 'old' money from previous sales. I am keen to see their future sales in the next 2 quarters.

RJ87

5,101 posts

Posted by RJ87 > 2023-07-20 14:29 | Report Abuse

Later BAuto owns the Tesla AP and maintenance, BursaVulture sings different tune.

BAuto is in good cash position to look into other ventures. Plus, u wait another 5-10 years before charging infra matures. You see even US, once Christmas, all charging station full and most car battery died. Died even at parking lot. So u can imagine la on highway during festive season.

RJ87

5,101 posts

Posted by RJ87 > 2023-07-20 14:31 | Report Abuse

Later BAuto owns the Tesla AP and maintenance, BursaVulture sings different tune.

BAuto is in good cash position to look into other ventures. Plus, u wait another 5-10 years before charging infra matures. You see even US, once Christmas, all charging station full and most car battery died. Died even at parking lot. So u can imagine la on highway during festive season in Malaysia. The jam at Plus Highway can be 14-15 hours trip.

You sure you want electric car? =D

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 14:40 | Report Abuse

Bauto own Tesla AP? What are you talking? Tesla business model is direct sales, no collaboration with 3rd party. If 3rd party required, they will not enter the country. Even Mercedes took back some control of their business from hapseng and etc.

Plus highway jam 14 to 15 hours? I am sure you are city boy or dont drive. Every chinese new year and sometimes raya i travel up north, worse come to worse, the time travel will only double, means max is 3 hours more. With the new WCE highway opening fully soon, there will be less jam and smoother travelling.

Please research before sharing stuff online.

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 14:41 | Report Abuse

Typo: Max 3 additional hours.

Posted by weixuan0325 > 2023-07-20 14:52 | Report Abuse

today is definitely a tough day for bauto compare to other auto sectors...hang in there

gohkimhock

2,969 posts

Posted by gohkimhock > 2023-07-20 15:11 | Report Abuse

Tesla cars got problems in Malaysia, or even spare parts, don't know find who also..

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-20 15:29 | Report Abuse

Apple phone got problem, i also dont know who to find… what are you talking? Tesla will set up their workshop soon, before delivery.

Posted by Kicapmanis > 2023-07-20 17:36 | Report Abuse

Bermaz will be bringing in ev/phev from kia?

Posted by weixuan0325 > 2023-07-20 21:19 | Report Abuse

Kia already have ev but not so competitive in terms of price and other aspect I guess...

Posted by Kicapmanis > 2023-07-21 00:25 | Report Abuse

dropped so much.,ff selling still?
time to collect more i guess

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-21 10:53 | Report Abuse

KIA Niro EV / RM 256,000 / 460KM
KIA EV6 / RM319,000 / 506KM
Mazda MX-30 / RM199,000 / 199KM
Peugeot No EV

Model Y / RM199,000 / 430KM
Model Y / RM246,000 / 533KM

Model 3 / ? / ?

Might as well not sell any EV, BAuto not serious in selling EV, maybe margin is low? maybe they can't make money from servicing it since EV doesn't need much servicing? Not aggressive in promoting it, must be a reason. At that price, nobody with a brain will buy a Mazda or KIA EV. Now wait for Model 3 pricing, you guys better pray it is not RM150K.

holihom

29 posts

Posted by holihom > 2023-07-21 14:59 | Report Abuse

dividend 11 sen. ex date Jul 20. Share price adjusted by 11 sen. Actual drop is only 2.09 -2.05 =4 sen

holihom

29 posts

Posted by holihom > 2023-07-21 15:30 | Report Abuse

Profit up for the last 3 QnQ, YnY

Posted by weixuan0325 > 2023-07-21 15:50 | Report Abuse

By Kenanga Research

https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/1179083

RJ87

5,101 posts

Posted by RJ87 > 2023-07-23 01:40 | Report Abuse

That’s how a real not even a kampung boy talks. More like frog in his hole. Extra 3 max extra during festive season. U must be talking about ipoh or u kiasi kiasu depart before 6am got la.

Why do u think Kia with BAuto, Toyota with UMW, and u get urself out of ur hole and educated on how things wrongs.

It’s only st*pid will believe that any government will allow a company to come and just take money back to their own country and without leaving anything behind.

BursaVulture
Apple phone got problem, i also dont know who to find… what are you talking? Tesla will set up their workshop soon, before delivery.

Paul Tan

146 posts

Posted by Paul Tan > 2023-07-24 18:39 | Report Abuse

why is bauto price sinking?

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-24 18:44 | Report Abuse

@RJ87

Anyone that drives back to Ipoh or Penang from KL will know you 12 hours is pure BS. I dare to say you are wrong because I've been driving up North for 20 years during every festival season, and reader of my comment will know I am right.

Why KIA with BAuto? Maybe you should ask why Naza 'passed' the Peugeot and KIA franchise to BAuto? Seems like Naza and BCorp are shuffling their business or slowly merging or whatever.... I think Vincent Tan still owns BAuto indirectly via his SPV Dynamic Milestone Sdn Bhd.

You think it is S*upid for any gov to allow other car companies to sell cars in their country and take back the profit? I think you must have listen too much to Mahathir. Other than Malaysia, which tiny country has their own national car? Only big countries has automotive industry, not small, reason is scale. I guess Vietnam, Indonesia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Taiwan etc are all run by S*upid people because they dont have their national car?

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-24 18:51 | Report Abuse

@Paul Tan

They have no EV to offer for the future, and their current line up are too expensive. Affordable Chinese EV are priced below their Mazda models, Chinese EV are eating their lunch. My neighbour just bought a BYD. I think the design is ugly.

If EV is the future, where is BAuto's future? If Model 3 is priced at RM150K, how many will choose Model 3 over Mazda 3 or CX30 and above? Just pay few thousand more and you get an EV that doesn't require oil change and major maintenance. If BYD Dolphine is below RM100K, who is going to buy Mazda 2?

Will EV be the future? For now, I dont know. But if it is the future, why is BAuto not doing anything? The Japanese may not be interested in EV and are now behind, but for the past few years, BAuto should have secured franchise for other Chinese EV makers, did they? Maybe they did and failed. Maybe they didn't. Whatever it is, they have no EV that the market wants.

Posted by Kucing Comey > 2023-07-24 19:09 | Report Abuse

Trapped with this counter...😭

Posted by Kucing Comey > 2023-07-25 05:47 | Report Abuse

Why this company give ESOS before ex date. No wonder lol the price slowly jump..

Posted by weixuan0325 > 2023-07-25 10:58 | Report Abuse

Be patience...time will come

troy88

2,629 posts

Posted by troy88 > 2023-07-25 12:23 | Report Abuse

Oversold. I am picking up some

Posted by paperhand123 > 2023-07-25 13:27 | Report Abuse

same, while most hyping over EV

Posted by BursaVulture > 2023-07-30 18:30 | Report Abuse

Mazda kills off MX-30 EV in US, again, after selling just 66 cars
https://electrek.co/2023/07/29/mazda-kills-off-mx-30-ev-in-us-again-after-selling-just-66-cars/

troy88

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Posted by troy88 > 2023-08-01 09:17 | Report Abuse

come give me below RM2 again. I wanna makan more..

Posted by Hatiharihari > 2023-08-01 16:33 | Report Abuse

Beautiful. Most of the big-profile people were buying back the shares

cwc1981

996 posts

Posted by cwc1981 > 2023-08-01 19:12 | Report Abuse

New model coming liao

troy88

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Posted by troy88 > 2023-08-02 09:41 | Report Abuse

Big guns bought back during the dip. I was happy to join them

Posted by Hatiharihari > 2023-08-02 16:57 | Report Abuse

What new model? Mazda one?

cwc1981

996 posts

Posted by cwc1981 > 2023-08-02 16:58 | Report Abuse

Mazda and Kia both also got

troy88

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Posted by troy88 > 2023-08-03 10:36 | Report Abuse

slowly climbing back up after big guns bought heavily..

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