Round & Surge Operator Analysis

We sold all our holdings before the market crash, because of 1 sign.

Publish date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022, 02:11 PM
"True trader react to the market" is the core of our Operator analysis. Operator Analysis analyze the price and volume of the big boys in equity market, where we currently using our analysis in gold market, Bitcoin and Malaysia market.

We will be sharing education material here such as to become a successful trader & investor, corporate action explanation, the financial instrument in the market you can utilize for your investment and more. We are here to help you understand the stock market.
FBMKLCI dropped -8.20%, -10.40% for FBMSCAP, -10.65% for FBMACE since the previous high starting on May 31, 2022. Some investors could be losing more than 30% in this round of market crash. It is hard to accept the losses & many “traders” may have turned into long-term investors after this market crash. Because it is too painful to cut the losses & choose to believe that the stock prices will move back to the intrinsic value by holding long term. Yes, it could move back to the so-called intrinsic value, IF that stock has a really good “supporting factor” for the funds to invest in & pump up the price again. If it is just because of your gut feeling that the stock price will bounce back to the value you invested in, we don’t call that investment, it is gambling. 
Investment is not gambling when you know when the big boys are running away & coming back into the stock market. This is the principle of our Operator Analysis, investing in the stock market is no longer about “What to buy?” anymore, it is about “WHEN to buy?”. It is all about TIMING the stock market big boys move to pump up & dumping shares for our entry & exit. 
Technical support & resistance lines can be easily broken & failed, we never have enough funds to average down our cost at each support line. By doing average down, you will miss the potential rebound in the future due to your funds being trapped in the losing trades. When you finally take a small profit from the previous holdings & buy other stocks at the peak of the bull market. You will get yourself trapped at the high price & start averaging down in the bear market again. This cycle goes on & on until you give up on trading/ investing short-term. 
Every retail investor's money-losing cycle is because we don’t know how to find out the big boy's intention. Traditional technical or fundamental analysis doesn’t tell us that. If it does, there won’t be investors trapped in some stocks that are red-flagged later, which are only known by the public a few months later after the financial year-end. 
How do we avoid the crash?
If you have been following us, we have shared with our followers to focus on short-term trade or intraday trade before the market crash. The reason is that we found the operator transaction patterns are more towards attracting buyers for their distribution instead of showing signs of the strong price up from the previous rebound. 
Therefore we change our trading method into short-term & intraday, holding 2 to 3 trading days & intraday trading to protect our position from a sudden market crash. This gives us an advantage over mid to long-term holding. Don’t get us wrong, we don’t mean that holding mid or long-term is bad, it is when to apply it to maximize our portfolio return at the right time. 
Our previous 2 months trading pattern


You can see most of our trades starting from April are mainly small profits. This is due to the price & volume transaction pattern doesn’t show signs of long-term market recovery. Instead, it is more like the big boys/ operators are in the middle of pump & dump for profit-taking before the next market crash. Even though we know they are marking the price up for profit-taking, we can still trade to make profits. Riding along with their price mark up & taking profit when they are about to throw the price down. 
22 Apr - 20th May 
The number of trades is reduced during this period because most of the big boys are in the dumping shares stage. But there are still trading opportunities in the market when the big boys are pumping up the price. So we make our trading decisions much more carefully around this period. We took the profit before they throw the price down & stay aside while they are dumping the shares out into the market. This is to secure the profit we made from the previous pump-up stage & protect ourselves from making too many mistakes on cutting losses or losses more than our profits. 
23 May - 2 June
The market starts to crash from 2nd June onwards. We sold all our holdings at that time, including warning our members to be careful trading/investing in the market. We did this because of the price & volume movement of many stocks that we’ve noticed during this period was having a shorter time of “pump & dump '' compared to 22 Apr - 20 May. This kind of transaction pattern is telling us that big boys/ operators are trying to sell their holdings more aggressively than in the past 1 month. This also means that the bad market is coming very soon. 
With such an aggressive pump & dump going on, it is difficult for us to have any profit potential. The big boys/ operators will pump up today & sell down the next day. That’s why our returns within this period are at a loss. The realized losses on 2nd June were lesser than the potential losses during the market crash. If we didn’t see the market crash coming, our losses could’ve gone up to RM 10k & above within the past 2 weeks of the crash. All the profits we have made earlier could have been wiped out. 
Although it is not much of a profit, in the past 2 months with such a bad market we are still able to secure a net profit of RM 6,213 from trading. By knowing when to trade & when not to trade. Without exiting the market at the right time, our portfolio will be in the negative right now. 
Investment or trading is never about how much you can make, it is about how you can protect yourself from losing. If you already know how to make a profit from the stock market, the next thing to fine-tune your returns is to learn how to protect/ minimize the risk of losing in a bear market with us. 
Know the Big boys/Operator & you will know the market.
If the past 2 years of investment experience demotivates you to continue your trading journey in the stock market, you are reading the right post now that can help you to find the solutions to maintain stock trading as 1 of your second income stream. 
You will find solutions that you never see in traditional technical or fundamental analysis. Because both of these are based on historical data to find out what is the current trend which is often late for the investors or traders to make trading decisions. We don’t need the indicators to show us whether the market is bearish or bullish, the prices already react to it; the previous annual or quarterly report can be showing a particular company is good, but the next quarter's report could be showing missing funds in the company. 
The more you learn about traditional analysis, the more you are confused & lost in the stock market world. Because the traditional analysis is not tracking the main parties that influence the stock market price. We can’t use the previous price movement or financials to forecast the future price, because the big boys would have distributed their shares on the way up, they are selling! That’s why previous resistance, support lines, or indicators based on historical data are not telling the true story of the stock market. The financial statement of the company doesn’t promise that in the next quarter there will be business coming in, it doesn’t show you there will be a pandemic. Strong companies might sustain hard times but the stock value will drop too. As investors we don’t invest or trade for breakeven or for a sustainable company that doesn’t give us profit, we invest for returns. 
To avoid all of the above, you just need to know what the big boys/ operator transaction pattern looks like when the market is about to fall or rise. Just like what we have observed from 23 May - 2 June, most big boys aggressively pump & dump in the market. So we decided to stay away from the market until now.
Knowing how the big boys transact helps us to see opportunities & danger differently from others. Because our analysis shows us the truth about the stock market, rather than reading the same “textbook” as everyone in the market. 
Look forward to the market rebound
We understand seeing the losses in the portfolio right now can be quite difficult to accept. But we have to move forward because the market will never stay in a bear market forever. Every Bear market ends will be the beginning of a bull market, we just need to learn not to repeat our mistakes again & learn when is the best time to enter the market again. Make every dollar of losses we made in the stock market a force for us to become stronger. 
We will be sharing our analysis on the upcoming Wednesday, 29th June at 8:00pm in our webinar. We will also share with you the introduction of how to find the market rebound using our Operator Analysis. You can find the registration link below & learn the true way to invest or trade in the stock market.



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Sold all position keep cash then redeploy to better value stocks ok

But keep cash and cash alone in bank Fd is also an investment

Bank FD int at 1.75% has a p/e ratio of 57.14

It will take you 57.14 years to double your money

Inflation will erode and destroy all monetory value with dwindling purchasing power

Palm oil shares like Sop, Tsh and Bplant and others have a p/e only 3 or 4 and dividends up to 12%

These are now safe and defensive

1 month ago


the difference between success and failure is timing................

sell to zero should be consider 6 months ago.

1 month ago


Not long ago, 2020 March, it was a crash happened, wasn't it? I think many learned from the experience 2 years ago.

My lesson learned was, when come to crash, people just threw at any price, that you don't believe (may be caused by margin-call) ...... by then, my largest holding was BIMB-WA, it was a corporate exercise to buy back @0.25sen, but the corporate exercise needed BNM approval, due to covid and reduced work force, BNM kept on delay ...... the price dropped to 12.5sen, it was 100% gain for a almost sure bet (just waiting for approval needed, unless it was not approved). Finally, BIMB paid 38sen for each of the BIMB-WA, to compensate the delay, those but at low price enjoyed >100%, even 200% gain ........

A true experience not long ago, what impressed me was not the high return, but how people just threw their holding at whatever price ..... now, US enter to the unprecedented era, which is the consequences of their over done quantitative easing for years, now they need to rise the interest rate and tighten the liquidity, how severe the crash will be? would it be more serious than 2020 March? who can give a suggestion?

1 month ago


p/s, don't believe too much on indicator /signal .... not always work ......

1 month ago


hahahahahaha don't make me laugh

if your techniques really work, you don't need to conduct trainings like this

you will just use your wonderful skills to enrich yourself and your wife and girlfriends and brothers and sisters and cousins

spin doctors

1 month ago


For RM8 commission, it has to be the cheapest paid tipster service in the market. Anyone who has the holy grail in investing would not sell it to you for even RM1m. Young punks who know nothing about the markets

1 month ago


If you were true master in Bursa, you just trade on your own. No need to recruit new members lah.

1 month ago


these "masters" are no better than apeks at Genting casinos asking you to follow their bets at the Baccarat table, claiming that they can "read" the trends

1 month ago

Musang King


1 month ago

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