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SOS Disaster of long term investment with short term expectations?

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Publish date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016, 06:42 PM
VALUATION DOES NOT DETERMINE THE PRICE, IT'S JUST A TOOL TO ESTIMATE A VALUE OF A BIZ

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.....IS THIS ARTICLE FAKE OR FACT?? ANYONE CAN CONFIRM?

HAVE A STRATEGY EACH STOCKS YOU BUY

A rationale strategy is better than none.  This is to mitigate the high volatility of stock prices.

Example:

1.  Buy Gadang at RM1.80 in August 2014.

2.  Gadang dropped to RM1.14 in August 2015.

3.  Gadang rebounded to RM2.63 in August 2016.

4.  For those "smart or great investors" who follow quarterly results religiously and try to profit from the next correct prediction, that smart or great investors likely may have sold it in August 2015, why, quarterly dropping for 3 consecutive quarters.  

5.   It would be a disaster for a long term investors (for me 3-5 years), who have a short term expectations (looking at each quarters and make decision to buy or sell).  It is unwise.

6.  Hence, a rationale strategy for a stock (say, e.g. Gadang) may come in handy.  When the stocks dropped more than 20-30%, accumulate more if the LONG TERM earnings are sustainable and no major adverse impact on the executions of its plan.

7.  Of course, one must know or estimate their "intrinsic value" of the company first, else, a rationale strategy cannot be designed.  It is not asking you to ignore the quarterly results, sometime, is may be a good indicators of a trend, i.e. over supply in the market, margin squeezes, cost of construction doubled, some oil and gas contracts cancelled, management change, sell down by major shareholders etc.

8. Once you strategy is done, e.g. like Gadang, you bought at RM1.80, you believe in the long term (3-5 years) profits can double, say, have an estimates that the intrinsic value is about RM3.50 (for discussion only) & all financial indicators points that it is undervalued, so just execute your plan.  When it dropped to RM1.24 (dropped 30%), time to ADD or accumulate.

9.  Hence, your new cost is RM1.52.  Today is RM2.62.  Do you have a strategy for SELLING?  Depends on each individual risk appetite.  Another strategy, when you buy, make sure the PE is a the lower of the range band, unless you are 100% convinced that the growth is certain, like concession, or secure contracts.

10.  So, remember, besides picking a "winner" stock, also, have a "strategy for that stock".  Small cap companies are more susceptible to high volatility due to liquidity of the stocks.  Hence, a different strategy must be used.

11.  Ask yourself, can this be used in FLB? What about Tune Protect? 

12.  Of course, this is not something carved on stones, be flexible, this is a general idea.

 

LONG TERM INVESTMENT WITH SHORT TERM EXPECTATION

 

1.  Lately, especially for small or mid cap stocks have been chased up by many type of investors.  Some follow the blindly and not aware that the share prices may have over run the fundamental, using linear thinking of extrapolating the latest earnings.

2.  It would be a disaster, if you have a long term investment horizon (3-5 years) and your expect every quarter the earnings must increase and make decision out of that, likely you may lose money.

3.  Example, let just say, you just bought FLB yesterday at RM1.71, today, after the quarterly result it dropped to RM1.55, do you SELL immediately.  I remember there was an investor who was calculating the intrinsic value by disregarding the bumper year of 2015 where profit more than double, and mainly due to forex gain.  His calculation was consider conservatives and rationale, the intrinsic value he calculated is about RM2.10 - RM2.30.  

4.  Unless FLB one is pretty sure, structurely, the biz model "collapse", then, it could be time to unload.  It was mentioned the cost of log increased drastically, so the right question is whether this is perpectual and what is the worst case impact, and whether the intrinsic value can sustain.

5.  It would be different if this is a Mainland Chinese stocks, where the PE can be less than 1 time and yet there is no buyer. Why? No confident whether the figures is fake?

6.  It's strange, sometime the market may not give a high PE for Mainland Chinese stocks due to lack of confidence.  Similarly, why some low liquidity stocks always traded a low PEs (4-5 times).

7.  Like the latest fad, Pokemon Go, this quarterly "chasing" will sooner or later comes to an end.  It is a voting machine.  

 

SO, BUY MORE GADANG, OR BUY MORE FLB OR OCK W?

1.  Got a plan?

 

Disclaimer

This strategy is not absolute.  There is a wise saying, investment MUST be INDEPENDENT (not easily influenced by what other said or follows blindly what others said).  

This is neither a buy, sell or hold call.  Just a strategy.

 

Discussions
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kcchongnz

Excellent article.

2016-08-23 18:56

abangadik

in the stock market, people don't wear a nametag which indicate if they are investor or speculator. :D I can't agree more on what you had mention above.

2016-08-23 19:15

probability

yup...very good article...

perhaps we can simplify and likened it to the scenario of driving a car with multiple lanes....and its almost fully filled (jammed) with different cars...and there are no dedicated fast lane or slow lane...

(Strategy 1) sticking to your lane and choosing a lane randomly (diversification) may only make you reach at an average speed of all these cars...i.e return at cost of equity...talking about large distant of travels during raya break jam to hometown!

(Strategy 2) if you keep changing lanes depending on which is more free-flowing you may make it faster than others...or you may get into an accident.

Strategy No 2 is high risk high reward (above cost of equity) with lots of effort...with the competitive advantage depending on "how good you are" at predicting correctly which lane is more free flowing than others...based on "your skills of judging from the front mirror"..i.e the quarterly results...

A good car (strong balance sheet with a cheap price vs value) may help...but to beat others...nothing beats the front mirror - the latest quarterly results coupled with the skills studying the latest financial statement and its narrations carefully.


(Strategy 3) The ultimate strategy is of course having the business knowledge and competitive advantage..and its future earnings predictability..

I think the current financial ratios has less significance (almost nil) in deciding the future of the price movement...as there are many financial analyst around to price the stocks correctly. Well, you even get the stock price moving to its correct price before the results are out - example PetronM.

If you cannot implement Strategy 3, then you are left with Stategy 2 only - i,e the latest quarterly results if you plan to have returns higher than cost of equity....with less diversification.....

If you think you not skilled enough using strategy 2 & 3....then you may need to diversify a lot and use the financial ratios to protect the downside perhaps and be satisfied with returns matching Cost of equity.

2016-08-23 19:36

buddyinvest

Sos, yet another good piece you posted. Appreciate your efforts

2016-08-23 20:33

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