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(CHOIVO CAPITAL) WHO AM I?? ANGEL OR EVIL?? WHAT ABOUT MY ATTITUDE?? GOOD OR BAD??
At first I already withdraw this blogpost because of sympathy that it may cause Choivo lose his rice bowl, however after I see how he attack David Lim instead of question him nicely, I decided to repost this blog again, hopefully all the readers and investors of Choivo can see this.
You never ride on Dayang, please dont be a SOUR GRAPE, as it would makes u look very ugly...just stick with your TIMECOM and RCECAP.
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600201179.jsp
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Posted by Choivo Capital > Apr 6, 2019 3:45 PM |
You're being overly simplistic in your analysis of a highly complex business, in an industry with multiple feedbacks.
Do you remember hengyuan, masteel etc.
How precise your predictions are and how incredible wrong they were?
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By looking at the way he question people, do u all think that i need to be polite with him?
If readers dont believe he has some attitude problem, can continue reading, there is more evidence down there to show this kid's attitude.
Its something like only he can post thing in this forum while all article written by other blogger is unethical, pump and dump and must be subject to scrunity.
After all my conversation with this kid, I have to admit that I cant stand with his bullshit anymore. Whenever there is member sharing idea in i3 he will come out and stop people from sharing idea, and not just stop, without hesitation he will immediately categorize that people as an unethical pump and dump person. Let me tell you smtg jon, from what i notice, i guess u dont hv much friends in reality, anyway thats ok, changes came frm the people himself, who am i to tell you to change ur behaviour. u just go on with your narrow heart and cant bear with information sharing kind of shit.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/icon8888/142848.jsp
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Choivo Capital Any chance you want to partner up?
Despite some difference in our styles, i always respected your views and research. I loved your stuff on Airasia, Lionind and Hengyuan.
jonathanchoiyikit@gmail.com
03/01/2018 5:08 PM
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Sometimes u are really contradict with your statement seriously, last time say icon pump and dump and ended up at thr PLP ask for collaboration. Meaning that you also interested becoming unethical and pump and dump??????? Answer me....
Where is your credibility? Pls dont ignore my question, even soojinhou who earned my respect also cant bear with you arrogant piece of shit, and i hope philip will report you to SC. If he dont do it, I will do it by tonight... when i say something like if you bought a share today and tmr it gone up 300%, by using value investing logic, value doesnt create out from thin air or just one night, so those are consider as speculative profit, are you going to refund your profit to your IB as those are your so called unethical profit made from market. you and ricky can't answer me... jon always contradict with his own statement, like he share timecom amd his 5k rcecap analysis as well.
If mr Soo is here, i hope he can defend my statement with his english because i cant beat Jon's with my England.
Uncle graduated frm sjkc chung cheng, since then i worked as butchery then kopitiam then only i have some spare time to learn english myself and also investment, forgive me for my bad english and grammar.
The most classic example of Jon the Sour Grape would be this... Few months ago i bump into MBMR recommended by commonsense (thank you for earning me almost 35% return, and also icons SHARING not a fucking PUMP AND DUMP) , and this kid out of no where come and say some bullshit.
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/5983.jsp
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Choivo Capital
commonsense, Stop trying to fry MBMR up in every single forum, by talking as if its gold selling at the price of lead. You make me itch to balance the equation by talking it down like mad here. 03/01/2019 5:58 PM
Choivo Capital
Its at best a 30-35% discount to fair value. I can name you at least 3 companies selling at 40-50% off fair value. And this is fair value derived from earnings. If we go to RNAV, i can name you 10 at more than 50% discount easily.
03/01/2019 6:00 PM
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Everytime people come out with some good idea with the good intention of sharing the idea over the forum, this GRAPE will just come out and throw some stupid ass statement with the stupid ass tone "i can name you 3 bla bla bla company below fair value bla bla bla, or this company has no moat bla bla bla, or this is not a fantastic business as it seems to be la bla bla bla....."
and yes time will tell, Look where is MBMR now and where is your fantastic business RCECAP now??? Ofcourse I have no intention to talk bad about RCECAP as i know there are others shareholder of RCECAP as well (it is not fair for them, so this comparison is just for Jon).
So is it commonsense a Pump and dump guy? or he is a guy with good intention of sharing? and what about our sour grape jon who is trying to stop other people to share their idea while he himself at the otherside saying how good his RCECAP is? is he evil or angel?
readers judge yourself.
investors of Jon's fund, judge your fund manager credibility.
In my opinion, this guy has some serious attitude and behavior problem, maybe he is autism kid. If he is autism i wouldnt blame him, but based on his England i believe he is not a kid with autism. I have gather all the information needed to submit to SC if i really have to do it.
Lets gather some opinion from forum members. feel free to drop some comment.
Choivo Capital Any chance you want to partner up?
Despite some difference in our styles, i always respected your views and research. I loved your stuff on Airasia, Lionind and Hengyuan.
jonathanchoiyikit@gmail.com
Despite some difference in our styles, i always respected your views and research. I loved your stuff on Airasia, Lionind and Hengyuan.
jonathanchoiyikit@gmail.com
03/01/2018 5:08 PM
Choivo Capital You're being overly simplistic in your analysis of a highly complex business, in an industry with multiple feedbacks.
Do you remember hengyuan, masteel etc.
How precise your predictions are and how incredible wrong they were?
Do you remember hengyuan, masteel etc.
How precise your predictions are and how incredible wrong they were?
06/04/2019 3:45 PM
Choivo Capital commonsense,
Stop trying to fry MBMR up in every single forum, by talking as if its gold selling at the price of lead.
You make me itch to balance the equation by talking it down like mad here.
Stop trying to fry MBMR up in every single forum, by talking as if its gold selling at the price of lead.
You make me itch to balance the equation by talking it down like mad here.
03/01/2019 5:58 PM
Choivo Capital Its at best a 30-35% discount to fair value.
I can name you at least 3 companies selling at 40-50% off fair value. And this is fair value derived from earnings.
If we go to RNAV, i can name you 10 at more than 50% discount easily.
I can name you at least 3 companies selling at 40-50% off fair value. And this is fair value derived from earnings.
If we go to RNAV, i can name you 10 at more than 50% discount easily.
03/01/2019 6:00 PM
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How is that credibility? Sorry you don't get to claim any of that, as you didn't bring it up in your webnovel at all, or give any explanation like David why you buy and your criteria, when you bought and when you expect to profit. Try harder. At least post an article, like you love to do so much.
Maybe if you follow Felicity with a proper portfolio, I would be more tempted to believe you.
As it is, I also can say I bought scientex when it first IPO, and Aeon credit when it first IPO ( even though no AEON in Sabah). But I won't, because if I did I would at least have some hubris and explain my buying criteria.
The ones which you did analyze and promote like favco and apm are also not doing so well.
If you say you bought favco and apm at it's height in 2014 and followed it all the way down until today, well then we can both agree on something. You and choivo are the same kind of theoretical investors which should be listening to uncles like connie555 and icon8888 and 3ii instead of disagreeing without any financial returns.
Poor portfolio performance also leads to lack of credibility.
When you go out on a limb, promoting poor performing stocks without a clear investment thesis ( and returns) is akin to those trading class teachers who promote 2 day classes for 3k saying you can make 5k a month, just trading 4 hours a day! Wow!
Is it possible? Definitely.
Is it probable? I leave it up to you to decide.
Just because you read a lot of books doesn't make you a good investor. This applies to you and Jon choivo both.
Obviously this applies to me as well. You may not believe me when I say I bought ql, topglov and YINSON when I say I did. No matter.
How about 2019? You can view my instincts acumen by comparing my long term results ( and articles with my reasoning) on
STNE: NASDAQ( January 2019, USD 19)
PCHEM ( February 2019, rm8.15 - pre dividend 0.18)
Gkent ( March 2019 - rm 1.12- pre dividend 0.035)
I show my articles written and publish dates, quantities, price, and I bare my soul, so if my investments don't work out you know I'm a fraud and I lose credibility. If it works out I build credibility.
Simple isn't it? It's about investing, not story telling.
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Alright alright, if you want credibility, I bought Scientex since 2012 and Aeon Credit since 2014. I bought others like APM, Favco too. Is everyone satisfied?
2019-04-07 15:30
Hi kid, how is your super energy china company listing in Singapore doing today? Another one who loves commenting but has zero credibility also.
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Uncle Philip, I tot u said u dun like to compare sausage. But now u compare with Ricky's and Jon's. I think you actually like to compare sausage lah.
2019-04-07 15:32
Dear Connie555,
Please allow me to answer your question. I quote, “if you bought a share today and tmr it gone up 500%” No share can gone up 500% in a single day because of Limit up rule.
“Are you going to refund your profit to your IB as those are your so called unethical profit made from market?” Why refund your profit to your IB? The are many charities fund you can donate to:
https://www.onestopmalaysia.com/directory/organisations/charity/
Thank you
2019-04-07 15:43
I will always remember you as the kid who described to me a microcap based in China with a energy efficient design which is better than what GE, ABB and SIEMENS can produce. Somehow it doesn't have an international patent, and it decided to list in Singapore instead of China. Well.... I went to China few months back and on a whim decided to visit your "moat" company factory and it's facilities.
Guess that? Your credibility went out the window for me as well.
2019-04-07 15:44
Ass Ass Lee, i appreciate your comment, although you always ask unnecessary question in AGM but at least your intelligent level with such a good England also can understand my question.
Both Risky Yeo and Choivo cant even answer my question and still saying dont know what the hell am i talking about. They prefer to hide their sorry ass behind their monitor, i am ok, what i am trying to do is to expose how pathetic this choivo kid is...
2019-04-07 15:48
Added some new evidence....so sick of this kid. Showing the world how is another side of him looks like...
2019-04-07 16:00
"Hi kid, how is your super energy china company listing in Singapore doing today? Another one who loves commenting but has zero credibility also. " Uncle, maybe not so shiok as you being a multi-millionaire. I called it at 31c, it's closed 0.555 on Friday. That's a 79% gain in a single quarter. I took up a moderately heavy position during the sell off, so it's my top performing stock this year. You want to compare sausage, compare with others lah uncle. Mine's bigger than yours.
2019-04-07 16:05
https://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/940-2018/12621-sunpower-buying-opportunity-on-share-price-fall
Uncle with small sausages please go back to the line please. But it's OKlah, Uncle Koon's sausage is even bigger than mine. I accept the fact that mine's not the biggest. Hahaha..
2019-04-07 16:10
soojinhou recommended this earlier to me...but missed it :(
i3 full of big sausages now.....
2019-04-07 16:17
Sure kid, good for you. Hope you do well with it. What's your 5 year CAGR?
2019-04-07 16:20
I'm not sharing with you uncle. You are the one who belittled me and say you won't believe any number from me. So no point sharing since you won't believe it anyway. So again I'm the biggest loser in Bursa lah. I lost millions betting on small cap risky stocks and if not for my wife paying the internet bills I won't even get to surf i3investor. Hahaha.
2019-04-07 16:24
Geeks, nerds, jerks and stalkers..........what's the difference
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/qqq3/201270.jsp
2019-04-07 16:25
Philip...i think you should take out the pic of soojinhou from your profile...
he is a great respectable guy if you had known him long enough
he is using his real name unlike yourself
2019-04-07 16:37
Ok la big sausage Soo, let u win. You are the best sausage! Even though quiet quiet STNE performance returned far more in shorter time, I'll queue at the back of the line make you happy a bit.
2019-04-07 16:38
you guys should really enter stock pick competition to prove yourself instead of talking rubbish liao...
just inject you all with estroegen...sausage become meat balls liao
Posted by probability > Apr 5, 2019 6:16 PM | Report Abuse
these are the list of strong opinionated sifus i can think off:
- raider
- philip
- icon
- qqq3
- kc
- otb
- jon choivo
- 3ii
- purebull
- heaven punter
- soojinhou
2019-04-07 16:42
And I thank you for sharing Stone, that enabled me to find a proxy to it without paying too much for it. Stone is out of my league, I don't buy anything more than PE 10. But thanks for the sharing, it sure helped me jumped on the proxy when the link became apparent. So can we finally start keeping our sausages in our pants and get some real work done?
2019-04-07 16:42
I'll leave it on a few days so he gets more investing clients. He is averaging 79% a year after all. Much better than old uncle like me. I do less than 25% a year. He needs to be respected.
2019-04-07 16:47
dont over publicize a treasure like him (sjh)...after that everything he recommend will shoot up like crazy one....
now you had disturbed a sleeping silent giant...:(
2019-04-07 16:51
Correct me if I am wrong. 1). IPO on first listing day can go up maximum 500%. 2). Those below 5 cts shares can go up 500% in single day. sslee
2019-04-07 16:58
Eh dun like that lah Philip. I really didn't want to show sausage in public, so obscene. But you say small mah. Small then have to show lorr. Peace out mate, and congrats on Stoneco.
2019-04-07 17:07
This post is dedicated to choivo boy let's come back to choivo boy he still hiding his sorry ass behind the monitor with risky yeo
2019-04-07 17:14
probability let's create a blog... of all the stock picks of all the sifus! What are the rules? want to include overseas market or not? Wakakaka
2019-04-07 17:14
overseas market seems to have advantage over bursa...so its no longer apple to apple...and we cant find much participant...
as a young energetic millenial, i suggest you create a blog to keep track of these sifus..
raider on his sape...
philip on gkent
qqq3 on jackass
etc...
this way we can find cream of the creams in i3...those with real balls
not like calvintan and 3iii
Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > Apr 7, 2019 5:14 PM | Report Abuse
probability let's create a blog... of all the stock picks of all the sifus! What are the rules? want to include overseas market or not? Wakakaka
2019-04-07 17:19
( Soojinhou 79% returns best investor ) Philip
But having said that, this is how you show credibility, with a date, a buy call, conviction in buying a stock. So when your results are out there in the open, no one can doubt that you are are not simply dumping your mouth off. This is something Ricky and Jon cannot do. Even sjh blog is better than Ricky webnovel. And he wonders why?
2019-04-07 17:20
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Day3/201271.jsp Okay come comment, tell me your pick. All price will be referenced from closing price of last Friday. I am joining also! Winner has the biggest sausage okay??
2019-04-07 17:23
i am still learning...unfortunately at an age...where i seem to forget more than i accumulate...:(
i am waiting to reach full time capital requirement (advised by Icon8888) before i can recommend..
Posted by Heavenly PUNTER > Apr 7, 2019 5:19 PM | Report Abuse
Okay you want to join or not unker? hahaha
2019-04-07 17:24
Honestly.
Why does every discussion here devolve into a pigsty. Not that im innocent in this. Can we be civil for once?
Philip, honestly, like really honestly ask yourself, was Ricky's first comments on ql irrelevant or rude in any way? I don't think so.
However, the sheer vitriol from your end in every subsequent comment is incredible.
I have never seen you acknowledge a single time others are correct or when you were mistaken.
On dayang and David's article. Its simple.
First, track the incentives. I don't want to argue on this anymore. So let's assume he is an angel.
Like all his other articles. It's all just extrapolation of the current to the future.
There is no insight on why current earnings are sustainable, why the growth is sustainable.
No discussion on their competitors, the industry dynamics, barriers of entry etc.
What is fair value? Let's take the current earnings, which are close to all time high, and whack 6x on it, as if, if the next q is loss, the company is now zero.
No comparison on opportunity cost. Even his crelsbld one, take the current year, and say highest margin in the industry. As if the 25m profit on land disposal is also an consistent operational one.
He forget or didn't know, I don't want to speculate.
Why don't I want to write anything on dayang?
Because the entire article will just be asking questions, testing how probable are things and if it's cheap enough given all these unknowns.
Why?
Because I don't know shit about the industry, the competitors, the company etc.
I personally don't know how so many people here can become industry experts in so many industries every year and give such accurate estimates of fair value.
I myself still learn so many new things about industries I thought I am familiar with.
In any event. This is all I will say on this topic. I think I'll stay out of writing in i3 for awhile.
Its a low value add activity. What's the point of disagreeing or playing devil's advocate in a market where people cannot short, and thus any disagreement is directly against everybody's rice bowl.
Because nobody seems to be interested in finding out if they're wrong. Instead, everyone just wants to make sure the story stays convincing enough to support or push up the price, up to the point where their fear overwhelms their greed. Which is a really high price to be honest.
Good luck.
2019-04-07 17:25
I3value,
I have not written anything on opensys and have actively discouraged people from using my name in promoting it.
On rce and time. My analysis of the risks and the dangers is easily half the page. Espeacially for rce.
Yeah, they both sure looks like a goreng article. I'm clearly a pump and dumper out to trap your ass and sell my shares to you.
Other people's on the other hand. You would scarcely find even 1 good paragraph on risk, beyond "I'm not asking you to buy, despite writing 2000 words, and structuring this article in such a way that, the next action you would take is to buy"
2019-04-07 17:37
This kid mouth really full of shit,
When David Lim first recommended HengYuan, it was trading around RM7 as at 21 July 2017 as per the link.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/davidtslim/128328.jsp
When Icon first recommended HengYuan, it was trading around RM5.8 as at 12 July 2017 as per the link.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/icon8888/127661.jsp
Icon subsequently upgraded to SiaLang, it was trading around RM7.90 as at 28 July 2017 as per the link.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/icon8888/128710.jsp
Both of them recommended the stock almost at the same time and now you wanna come out discredit David and PLP icon....
That is why i suggest if your brain is really full of theory, join sasbadi, i have friends working inside who can get u a job, they need to come out something new, textbook material is needed...people like you choivo boy.
instead of PLP and discrediting someone i suggest you work for Sasbadi...
"Choivo Capital Any chance you want to partner up?
Despite some difference in our styles, i always respected your views and research. I loved your stuff on Airasia, Lionind and Hengyuan.
jonathanchoiyikit@gmail.com
03/01/2018 5:08 PM "
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Blog: DAYANG: My Analysis on Dayang (Davidtslim)
Apr 6, 2019 3:45 PM | Report Abuse
You're being overly simplistic in your analysis of a highly complex business, in an industry with multiple feedbacks.
Do you remember hengyuan, masteel etc.
How precise your predictions are and how incredible wrong they were?
2019-04-07 18:24
Another case is last time attack OTB, now after lunch with OTB diam diam oledi, dont dare to bark around anymore....why???
OTB also recommended to buy Dayang??? Why our Choivo Boi Diam Diam oledi???
Or is it your integrity just worth a set of lunch at KLCC?? i dont know...ask yourself.....
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Blog: How to invest for the long game, without losing your shoes.
Jan 4, 2019 11:49 PM | Report Abuse
qqq3,
OTB is a trader, not an investor.
When he sells, you would expect most to drop after running for a bit longer.
The mark of a good investor on the other hand, is that the stock he sells, keep going up, because he trades one wonderful company, for an even better one.
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So lets just say David and Icon recommended HengYuan before 1st of August when it was still trading a below RM10, subsequently share price Run to RM10, both of them sold their holdings (as per your statement "The mark of a good investor on the other hand, is that the stock he sells, keep going up,") subsequently Run until Rm19, so that period makes them a good investor and subsequently share price collapse, and they no longer entitle the "good investor" term anymore, and now they must be discredit as Trader oledi. Is that right my boy???
2019-04-07 18:35
connie, should give probability sifu credit. he recommended hrc when it was below RM5
2019-04-07 18:41
He never actually answer my question at all, MBMR case, see how rude he treat commonsense, and also my question "when i say something like if you bought a share today and tmr it gone up 500%, by using value investing logic, value doesnt create out from thin air or just one night, so those are consider as speculative profit, are you going to refund your profit to your IB as those are your so called unethical profit made from market."
2019-04-07 18:46
No, you definitely not pump and dump. Your portfolio so small how pump? And when you dump, got effect? Can move 1 tick?
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Choivo Capital I3value,
I have not written anything on opensys and have actively discouraged people from using my name in promoting it.
On rce and time. My analysis of the risks and the dangers is easily half the page. Espeacially for rce.
Yeah, they both sure looks like a goreng article. I'm clearly a pump and dumper out to trap your ass and sell my shares to you.
Other people's on the other hand. You would scarcely find even 1 good paragraph on risk, beyond "I'm not asking you to buy, despite writing 2000 words, and structuring this article in such a way that, the next action you would take is to buy"
07/04/2019 5:37 PM
2019-04-08 01:11
Aigoo, that is up to you to decide whether you want to believe or not. Great if you believe; awesome if you don't believe
2019-04-08 07:00
( Soojinhou 79% returns best investor ) Philip
I highly doubt there is anything to believe or disbelieve, since all you do is plagiarise the other great investors so as to increase your credibility. I liken you to the "great" Mary buffett, whose only call to fame was as the ex-daughter in law of Warren buffett. She got famous not because she was good in investing or has any net worth or running her own fund, but more because she starting writing investing books due to her close proximity to Warren buffett. She wrote everything with the title buffett, even keeping her married surname even though divorced.
Her "books" if you can call it that, are easy to parrot because Warren makes it sound so easy, however it is dastardly hard to practise, as I'm sure you and choivo have started to find out.
Its like teaching someone how to play chess, and playing chess professionally.
You are no grandmaster. Aigoo.
Same goes to choivo, who chooses to insult other writers instead of offering constructive criticism.
2019-04-09 08:29
( Soojinhou 79% returns best investor ) Philip
Its funny how choivo puts 32% on his so called portfolio xx% share because he is afraid other people will buy his stock and cause him to unable to buy his share at good prices, however everyone including you and me know it is RCECAP. I estimate his share capital to be below 100k, with the way he carries himself and acts so Huffington post. I highly doubt 32k will cause a blip in the share price of pump and dump.
Ok la give him benefit of the doubt, if his total portfolio is 1m, 320k
is a grand total of 0.05% of entire share cap of rce. Very Jordan Belfort there, I'm impressed if that even makes a blip too.
Let's face it. Jonathanchoiyikit@gmail.com is just another Warren buffet wannabe who thinks anyone cares about his investments. Maybe he should stick to teaching other people how to buy stocks, instead of doing so himself?
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No, you definitely not pump and dump. Your portfolio so small how pump? And when you dump, got effect? Can move 1 tick?
2019-04-09 08:41
Where did you get that? Never said anything about grandmaster. Of course I plagiarise. I never dare to claim I can create any original idea. You think too highly of me by comparing to Mary Buffett lol.
2019-04-09 10:47
I small fry nobody old man no time quarrel with all the sifus here
Busy counting money instead
2019-04-09 11:08
( Soojinhou 79% returns best investor ) Philip
counting small change takes a lot of time definitely. 1 cent, 2 cent, 1 dollar. KYY just count the zeros and donate the rest. funny busy counting money as if you got a lot. showing off your thousands again. fake investment banker/fake engineer boring la.
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I small fry nobody old man no time quarrel with all the sifus here
Busy counting money instead
2019-04-10 11:06
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Uncle Philip, I tot u said u dun like to compare sausage. But now u compare with Ricky's and Jon's. I think you actually like to compare sausage lah.
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