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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Talking about comparative study, General Raider remember Dlady & Nestle share price were Rm 70.00 & Rm 155.00 compare to insas about rm 0.90 about 6 yrs ago loh!
How did Nestle & Dlady perform after that leh ??
Why Dlady & Nestle share price stagnant but decline big to today Rm 23.90 and Rm 120.00 leh ??
Is this not value trap meh ??
On the other hand, the latest Insas share price move up, commendably to Rm 1.21 mah!
People say Insas value trap, but actually it perform much better than bluechip Dlady & Nestle mah!
So do not be misled by 3iii mah, he only know how to talkkook loh!
He should look at himself in the mirror b4 giving very unintelligent comment loh!
Have a very good day loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Do a comparative study of Insas and Oriental Holdings. Both are "value traps" by definition. You will learn a lot when you compare these companies side by side.
Have a good day.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Talking about comparative study, General Raider remember Dlady & Nestle share price were Rm 70.00 & Rm 155.00 compare to insas about rm 0.90 about 6 yrs ago loh!
How did Nestle & Dlady perform after that leh ??
Why Dlady & Nestle share price stagnant but decline big to today Rm 23.90 and Rm 120.00 leh ??
Is this not value trap meh ??
On the other hand, the latest Insas share price move up, commendably to Rm 1.21 mah!
People say Insas value trap, but actually it perform much better than bluechip Dlady & Nestle mah!
So do not be misled by 3iii mah, he only know how to talkkook loh!
He should look at himself in the mirror b4 giving very unintelligent comment loh!
Have a very good day loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Do a comparative study of Insas and Oriental Holdings. Both are "value traps" by definition. You will learn a lot when you compare these companies side by side.
Have a good day.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Talking about comparative study, General Raider remember Dlady & Nestle share price were Rm 70.00 & Rm 155.00 compare to insas about rm 0.90 about 6 yrs ago loh!
How did Nestle & Dlady perform after that leh ??
Why Dlady & Nestle share price stagnant but decline big to today Rm 23.90 and Rm 120.00 leh ??
Is this not value trap meh ??
On the other hand, the latest Insas share price move up, commendably to Rm 1.21 mah!
People say Insas value trap, but actually it perform much better than bluechip Dlady & Nestle mah!
So do not be misled by 3iii mah, he only know how to talkkook loh!
He should look at himself in the mirror b4 giving very unintelligent comment loh!
Have a very good day loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Do a comparative study of Insas and Oriental Holdings. Both are "value traps" by definition. You will learn a lot when you compare these companies side by side.
Have a good day.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
GENERAL RAIDER HAD SAID MANY TIMES LOH!
BIG KON MIKE CANNOT BE TRUSTED MAH!
HIS JAKS RECOMMENDATIONS IS FAKE & BIG KON LOH!
Posted by stockraider > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Invest in jaks like sorrrrhaiiii loh!
Beside Jaks having huge borrowings, poor profit, no dividend & management taking advantage by issuing placement & huge discount at the expense of diluting minority shareholders loh!
This jaks has integrity & competence issue & it has loads of litigations issue mah!
Posted by Mikecyc > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse
Haha correction :
As I read thru , understand that Vietnam JV company , Jaks holding 30 % : Cash RM 200 million plus RM 400 million from “ Construction of “ the Power Plant Profits … Until today the investment is over RM 800 million .
Mikecyc
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Posted by Mikecyc > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
1.) Vietnam Power Plant Share of Profit n Dividends :
2020 : RM 3.8 million
2021 : RM 140.7 million
2022 : RM 156.2 million , Dividend RM 70.0 million
2023 : 1QR = RM 28.326 M , 2QR = RM 32.312 M , 3QR = RM 35.862 M
___
Jaks Annual Revenue and Net Profit / ( Loss ) :
1.) FYE2020 : RM 259.4 million with Loss ( RM 80.5 Million. )
2.) FYE2021 : RM 109.7 million with Net Profit RM 51.9 million.
3.) FYE 2022 : RM 89.8 million with Net Profit RM 53.5 million.
4.) FYE 2023 : 1st Half Revenue RM 17.47 million with Net Profit RM 33.19 million.
>>👉 1QR is Profit RM 14.08 million , 2QR is Profit RM 19.11 million , 3QR is Rm 7.15 million…
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Block shareholders means SWK Govt going to hold 30% n above loh!
Posted by beluga > 1 day ago | Report Abuse
“Like I mentioned earlier in Kuala Lumpur, we have an interest in Affin Bank and the discussions have been conclusive. It is just a matter of formality from Bank Negara Malaysia and we are going to be the block shareholder,”
https://www.theborneopost.com/2024/02/05/swak-aims-to-be-block-shareholder-in-affin-bank-says-premier/
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Let najib be partially pardon loh!
Ok mah....only 50% discount mah!
That means najib need to serve 6 yrs loh!
Still awfully long loh.!
Remember there is another case 1MDB.....what if Najib sentence another 12 yrs leh ??
That will be a disaster for najib, thus the current partial pardon do not serve any purpose, considering najib age loh!
Conclusion....let najib be partially pardon SRC case....no need be sibuk loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Let najib be partially pardon loh!
Ok mah....only 50% discount mah!
That means najib need to serve 6 yrs loh!
Still awfully long loh.!
Remember there is another case 1MDB.....what if Najib sentence another 12 yrs leh ??
That will be a disaster for najib, thus the current partial pardon do not serve any purpose, considering najib age loh!
Conclusion....let najib be partially pardon SRC case....no need be sibuk loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Let najib be partially pardon loh!
Ok mah....only 50% discount mah!
That means najib need to serve 6 yrs loh!
Still awfully long loh.!
Remember there is another case 1MDB.....what if Najib sentence another 12 yrs leh ??
That will be a disaster for najib, thus the current partial pardon do not serve any purpose, considering najib age loh!
Conclusion....let najib be partially pardon SRC case....no need be sibuk loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
As it is well known that intrinsic value of Insas is Rm 6.00 compare to the current share price of insas of Rm 1.22 & warrant of Rm 0.39 loh!
Thus very big potential upside for Insas mah!
Remember Insas price has been consolidated for more than 1 wk, thus going fwd the upside will be highly sustainable loh!
No point selling mah!....In fact sure buy more at this price if u had earlier sold loh!
U can profit from coming big upside movement mah!
"IT IS QUITE NATURAL AFTER A GOOD UPSIDE LIKE IN THE CASE, THERE ALWAYS SOME CONSOLIDATION & PROFIT TAKING LOH!"
EVERY CONSOLIDATION OF INSAS SHARE PRICE WILL MAKE IT STRONGER LOH!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Enough mah!
Let najib be partially pardon loh!
Ok mah....only 50% discount mah!
That means najib need to serve 6 yrs loh!
Still awfully long loh.!
Remember there is another case 1MDB.....what if Najib sentence another 12 yrs leh ??
That will be a disaster for najib, thus the current partial pardon do not serve any purpose, considering najib age loh!
Conclusion....let najib be partially pardon SRC case....no need be sibuk loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
AGAIN SIFU TUKANG TILIK ALREADY PREDICTED INSAS WILL SHOOT UP SKY HIGH MORE THAN 1 MTH AGO LOH!
THAT TIME INSAS WAS 80 SEN LOH!
RAIDER & GANG NEVER BLUFF U LOH!
WE JUST WANT U MAKE MONEY SAFELY MAH!
Posted by stockraider > 1 month ago | Report Abuse
Fyi Insas will be shooting up high high this coming 2024 new year....according to Raider sifu tukang telek loh!
Do not missed this wonderful opportunity loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
FOR YOUR OWN FINANCIAL HEALTH & SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS LOH!
U R NOT INVESTING ALONE....BUT TOGETHER WITH YOUR FAMILY & THE NATION WELL BEING MAH!
THUS U MUST INVEST PRUDENTLY BUT YET MUST BE SMART & INTELLIGENTLY LOH!
INSAS DEEP UNDERVALUE IS OPPORTUNITY & NOT VALUE TRAP LOH!
DO NOT FALL TO THE PRAY OF THE KON GAME...SAYING INSAS IS VALUE TRAP MAH!
THERE IS NO VALUE TRAP LOH!
Posted by stockraider > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Lets put it this way loh!
Today we have almost 5 stocks today that had shown large limit down for the past 5 days loh!
That are :
1. Rapid Rm 3.96 v highest rm 29.54
2 YNH Rm 1.22 v highest Rm 5,20
3. SCIB Rm 0.535 v Rm 1,20
4. Mercury Rm 0.455 v Rm 0.9
5. Imaspro Rm 1.23 v Rm 6.00
A simple financial check will indicates all these are not supported by strong fundamental financial matrix of namely NTA, PE, DIV, ROE, Growth despite had been goreng up sky high loh!
It finanally collapse loh!
If u compare all these 5 stocks...fundamental perform poorly v INSAS loh!
The the reasons why INSAS share has big upside and sustained at current high level, whereas the 5 loser stocks, Raider mentioned fell like 10 pins loh!
The current mkt run up are mainly supported by strong fundamental like Insas, Kseng & OSK that surge strongly beside having good earnings & good strong balance sheets, it has very good sustainable fundamental loh!
Investors are advise to be wary of high speculative stocks & peg their investment that can be supported by good margin of safety like very good pick insas mah!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
WHY DO U WANT TO LOOK FOR RUBBISH STOCKS BELOW WHEN U HAVE QUALITY UNDERVALUE INSAS WITH VERY DEEP MARGIN OF SAFETY, WHEN U CAN INVEST VERY VERY BIG WITHOUT FEAR LEH ?
Posted by stockraider > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Lets put it this way loh!
Today we have almost 5 stocks today that had shown large limit down for the past 5 days loh!
That are :
1. Rapid Rm 3.96 v highest rm 29.54
2 YNH Rm 1.22 v highest Rm 5,20
3. SCIB Rm 0.535 v Rm 1,20
4. Mercury Rm 0.455 v Rm 0.9
5. Imaspro Rm 1.23 v Rm 6.00
A simple financial check will indicates all these are not supported by strong fundamental financial matrix of namely NTA, PE, DIV, ROE, Growth despite had been goreng up sky high loh!
It finanally collapse loh!
If u compare all these 5 stocks...fundamental perform poorly v INSAS loh!
The the reasons why INSAS share has big upside and sustained at current high level, whereas the 5 loser stocks, Raider mentioned fell like 10 pins loh!
The current mkt run up are mainly supported by strong fundamental like Insas, Kseng & OSK that surge strongly beside having good earnings & good strong balance sheets, it has very good sustainable fundamental loh!
Investors are advise to be wary of high speculative stocks & peg their investment that can be supported by good margin of safety like very good pick insas mah!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
WHY THERE IS BIG OPPORTUNITY INSA VIS INARI LEH ?
Posted by stockraider > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Lu tau boh!
Inari has good rating & respect of the investing community compare to Insas loh!
This bcos the corp governance & its public relation of Inari is excellent compare to Insas loh!
As Thong is targeting the corporates & the funds whereas insas has poor perception bcos thong wants to make it ugly for a potential privatization loh!
But insas is actually manage well loh!
Mkt is slowly waking up mah!
Posted by Sslee > 4 hours ago | Report Abuse
29-Jul-2021 30-Jul-2021 Private Placement 333,000,000 3.100 Additional Listing
Sometime I just wonder why this Inari 10% PP purchasers spend RM1,032.3 million for 333 million inari shares. Shouldn't they spend the 1.0323 billion take over Insas then use Insas cash to pay off RM 1.032 billion and will still owned 532,008,575 inari shares and everything inside Insas?
On every measurable yardstick Insas is deeply undervalued or a deep value trapped.
So in investing 1+1 can never equal to 2.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
GENERAL RAIDER HAD SAID MANY TIMES LOH!
BIG KON MIKE CANNOT BE TRUSTED MAH!
HIS JAKS RECOMMENDATIONS IS FAKE & BIG KON LOH!
Posted by stockraider > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Invest in jaks like sorrrrhaiiii loh!
Beside Jaks having huge borrowings, poor profit, no dividend & management taking advantage by issuing placement & huge discount at the expense of diluting minority shareholders loh!
This jaks has integrity & competence issue & it has loads of litigations issue mah!
Posted by Mikecyc > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse
Haha correction :
As I read thru , understand that Vietnam JV company , Jaks holding 30 % : Cash RM 200 million plus RM 400 million from “ Construction of “ the Power Plant Profits … Until today the investment is over RM 800 million .
Mikecyc
41,648 posts
Posted by Mikecyc > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
1.) Vietnam Power Plant Share of Profit n Dividends :
2020 : RM 3.8 million
2021 : RM 140.7 million
2022 : RM 156.2 million , Dividend RM 70.0 million
2023 : 1QR = RM 28.326 M , 2QR = RM 32.312 M , 3QR = RM 35.862 M
___
Jaks Annual Revenue and Net Profit / ( Loss ) :
1.) FYE2020 : RM 259.4 million with Loss ( RM 80.5 Million. )
2.) FYE2021 : RM 109.7 million with Net Profit RM 51.9 million.
3.) FYE 2022 : RM 89.8 million with Net Profit RM 53.5 million.
4.) FYE 2023 : 1st Half Revenue RM 17.47 million with Net Profit RM 33.19 million.
>>👉 1QR is Profit RM 14.08 million , 2QR is Profit RM 19.11 million , 3QR is Rm 7.15 million…
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
REMEMBER LOH!
RAIDER & GANG NEVER BLUFF U MAH!
WE JUST WANT U TO MAKE MONEY BY INVESTING YOUR MONEY SAFELY LOH!
GENERAL RAIDER EVEN ADVICE U IN ADVANCE, WE WANT TO BUY MORE OF INSAS & ITS WARRANT LOH!
GENERAL RAIDER IS NEVER SELFISH WHEN SHARING OPPORTUNITY TIP WITH U IN ADVANCE LOH!
U NEED TO TRUST GENERAL RAIDER LOH!
GENERAL RAIDER ALWAYS STANDBY U LOH!
Posted by stockraider > 5 days ago | Report Abuse
Yes mortgage all your assets including expensive under wear to buy in insas loh!
We do not want Thong Kok Kee plan to privatise Insas for cheap to be successful loh!
True mah.....Insas is cash rich with more than Rm 1 billion net cash, why Insas need to sell more M&A and Inari recently to raise significantly more cash leh ?
The answer is Thong will like to Use Insas as a vehicle to privatise the Group for the benefit Thong family to benefit his next generation loh!
Without the Strong forces from the mkt.....Thong will be able to privatise Insas at Rm 2.20 to Rm 3.00 compare to Insas intrinsic value of Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00 loh!
Thus it is very important for insas shareholders to get the valuation of insas right mah!
stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > 5 days ago | Report Abuse
Raider has spoken enough on insas loh!
Now Raider need to prepare to take action to accumulate insas loh!
Do not fear of Insas price fall loh....is a good opportunity to buy more mah!
General Raider has generously share my investment idea with u all loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
IT IS QUITE NATURAL AFTER A GOOD UPSIDE LIKE IN THE CASE, THERE ALWAYS SOME CONSOLIDATION & PROFIT TAKING LOH!
EVERY CONSOLIDATION OF INSAS SHARE PRICE WILL MAKE IT STRONGER LOH!
Posted by stockraider > 5 days ago | Report Abuse
For a start raider n gang will be accumulating more insas & insas warrant very soon to make another round big gain on this stock mah!
It is no brainer when Tong Kooi Ong value insas mother at Rm 4.33 and board insas warrant at Rm 0.425 when the current latest share price of insas is at Rm 1.16 n warrant at rm 0.37 loh!
Big opportunity to buy more loh!
Remember this loh!
U need to focus on profit opportunity of insas mah!
In insas case u r paying only Rm 1.16 per share to buy a wealth of Rm 6.00 per share mah!
This an obvious no brainer....the answer is obvious loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
FUNDAMENTAL INVESTOR SHOULD ASK QUALITY QUESTION & DO NOT FEAR OR MISSED OUT ON OPPORTUNITY COMPLETELY LOH!
REMEMBER SHARE PRICE IS ALWAYS LINKED TO INTRINSIC VALUE OF INSAS MAH!
THE BIGGER THE MARGIN OF SAFETY THE SAFER U R WHEN U INVEST MAH!
Yes & No loh!
10 yrs ago insas Nta is roughly Rm 1.90 & its EPS is around 13.9 sen with share price 80 sen.
Today Nta is Rm 3.56 & eps is 18 sen with share price Rm 1.20.
Surely a dumb fellow using warren buffet formula will had notice insas wealth has grown by rm 1.66 per share or about 16 sen pa over the 10 yrs loh!
And added back div about roughly 1.5 sen div pa avg your total cash generation from insas is about 17.5 sen pa mah!
If your IRR is 10% pa.....surely base earnings Insas should easily worth Rm 1.75 per share loh!
Remember in 2015, Inari only worth less than Rm 1 billion loh but today it is worth more than Rm 12B mah!
Also we have not factor in the hidden reserve of Inari mark to mkt gain for insas holding of about rm 1.6b which is additional gain of rm 2.42 per share for insas loh!
Thus Insas shareholder funds plus Inari hidden reserve mark to mkt gain will contribute potential wealth of Rm 6.00 per share to insas loh!
Surely insas will worth much more than Rm 1.20 loh!
Posted by paperplane > 54 minutes ago | Report Abuse
insas FOREVER UNDERVALUED, IN FACT undervalue more than 10 years.....lol. what does it tell you then/
Posted by stockraider > 5 days ago | Report Abuse
This type of intelligent question is applicable when u want to buy Nestle at rm 120.00 per share, n its eps is rm 2.80 & nta is only Rm 3.00.
U r trying to justify why u willing to pay so much more loh ?
In insas case u r paying only Rm 1.20 per share to buy a wealth of Rm 6.00 per share mah!
This an obvious no brainer....the answer is obvious loh!
Posted by KingKKK > 48 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Insas seems undervalued by net cash/NTA valuation but also need to ask these questions:
1. What is the future prospect? Can next year earnings grow substantially (my standard at least 10%)?
2. How about the free cash flow? Will it grow in the future? + Has it grown higher historically.
3. What is the management planning to do with the extra cash ... return to shareholder? Or invest in new growth busienss? Or invest in efficiency enhancement of existing business?
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
WHAT ARE THE CATALYST FOR INSAS LEH ?
Beyond 6 mths after this insas should be flying from Rm 1.80 towards Rm 10.00 loh!
If u r concern & fear of the mkt...........u should bet very big on INSAS loh!
Do not missed this defensive profitable opportunity loh!
Thus get ready to board the plane loh!
Posted by probability > 3 hours ago | Report Abuse
To all the young investors,
Insas one thing for sure, its value is way way higher than what market is pricing now....
But, all the available mechanism which can force the price to move to approach fair valuation as hinted by all sifus like KC Chong, OTB, TheEdge TKO, Sslee, Stockraider, Leno all....i guess will never come to fruition unless some human has the will to do so...
But, there is another natural mechanism...that is time
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
THE TRUE FUNDAMENTAL STRENGTH OF INSAS & HOW TO CAPITALIZE ON IT MAH ?
u think Insas is going to move up to Rm 1.50 to Rm 2.00 soon, & u know Insas should be worth at least Rm 4.33 base on Edge Tong conservative valuation n in which insas has huge margin of safety loh! There r better way loh!
What u should do is allocate substantial resources to insas in order to get rich safely & steadily loh!
The correct approach for insas are as follows loh!
1. Allocate substantial investable assets into insas, say u have Rm 1m.....u must invest at least 30% @ Rm 300k into Insas loh!
2. Allocate substantial of your future saving by investing insas more loh! For example U n your wife earn Rm 20k a month & u can save Rm 6k a mth...........thus u should invest in insas Rm 18k every 3 mths loh!
Raider suggest this Rm 18k is a comparative smaller sum, thus u should allocate this savings fund just for investing in insas-w to maximise exposure loh!
Having done that, u will on the route of great wealth loh!
But u must monitor Insas share price to ensure that u have adequate margin of safety loh....Raider suggest u stop putting more money into insas when it hit above Rm 3.20 mah!
And u may consider sell a small % of insas slowly when it trade above Rm 3.80 loh!
The above r the right way of investing in insas & raider follower ahfah the queen of investment in Pasar Pudu adopt this method & gain substantial wealth without taking excessive risk loh!
Ahfah proudly tell his fellow vegetable sellers this loh!:
"I have make about Rm 200k profit just investing in insas & its warrant within 3 mths loh! Just imagine how much i need to sell vegetables, if i make rm 1 per kg from vegetable, that will be 200,000 kg or 200 tonnes loh!"
"Good share management & investment tech is very important if we want to accumulate substantial wealth sustainably & i would like to thank General Raider for that mah!"
What are the strong point investing insas in a nutshell leh ?
Very Good Observations by Raider good old friend Probability mah!
True mah.....Insas is cash rich with more than Rm 1 billion net cash, why Insas need to sell more M&A and Inari recently to raise significantly more cash leh ?
The answer is Thong will like to Use Insas as a vehicle to privatise the Group for the benefit Thong family to benefit his next generation loh!
Without the Strong forces from the mkt.....Thong will be able to privatise Insas at Rm 2.20 to Rm 3.00 compare to Insas intrinsic value of Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00 loh!
Thus it is very important for insas shareholders to get the valuation of insas right mah!
Many prominent value investors value insas differently loh!
1. Sifu Sslee Target Rm 1.50.
2. Insas Eps 18.2 @ pe 12x = Rm 2.20.
3.Ahmoi the best friend of Ahfah in Pasar Pudu Rm 3.00.
4. Nta of insas exclude all the potential hidden gain Rm 3.56
5. Ahfah the investment queen in pasar Pudu Rm 3.90 to Rm 4.80
6. Tong Kooi Ong of Edge Rm 4.33
7. Leno Rm 6.00 and Rm60.00
8. General Raider Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00
On what occasion should Insas be value at around Rm 7.00 to Rm 10.00 leh ?
When there is a hostile sizeable investors coming in loh!
Sizeable means investors willing to buy more than 20% of insas share & to be a business partner to Thong loh!
Who r the sizeable partner willing to fork up so much monies of more than Rm 250m just to buy 20% of insas leh ??
It should be a value investors who understand Insas type of business n a good fit is Edge Tong & his allies loh!
It could Raider & Gangs with support of Tycoon behind the scene supporting & financing the deals loh!
Base on raider & gang matrix , the big investors is accumulating big in insas at rm 1.26 and warrants Rm 0.45, the funds require purchase 20% exposure will be Rm 250m loh!
This work out to a cost of roughly Rm 1.80 per share compare to the potential intrinsic value of insas Rm 7.00 to Rm 10.00 loh!
Thus minority shareholders should expect big volume of insas will be traded everyday from rm 1.26 to rm 1.80 over the next 6 mths loh!
People always think of getting or hoping a new major shareholder & unlocking the hidden value of insas loh!
The truth is Thong is quietly unlocking value stealthly without people noticing mah!
" Insas strength is a very strong incubator of business loh!"
Once people realized this.....there will be chasing Insas above Rm 3.00 loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
These soorhaiiii naysayers talk nothing good in this insas thread loh!
But Raider & gang remain optimistic on this insas just base on insas fundamental facts bought about 2m units of insas an average cost of rm 1.15 per units & now siting on an unrealized gain of Rm 130k just over less than 7 trading days loh!
Stop saying that Insas is a value trap loh....there nothing fundamental wrong with investing with deep margin of safety mah!
Simple common sense loh!
U pay Rm 1150 for a potential intrinsic value of Insas of Rm 6.00 mah!
How can u go wrong leh ???
So stop talking kook & just stick to the fundamental of insas mah!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Raider has spoken enough on insas loh!
Now Raider need to prepare to take action to accumulate insas loh!
Do not fear of Insas price fall loh....is a good opportunity to buy more mah!
General Raider has generously share my investment idea with u all loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Yes mortgage all your assets including expensive under wear to buy in insas loh!
We do not want Thong Kok Kee plan to privatise Insas for cheap to be successful loh!
True mah.....Insas is cash rich with more than Rm 1 billion net cash, why Insas need to sell more M&A and Inari recently to raise significantly more cash leh ?
The answer is Thong will like to Use Insas as a vehicle to privatise the Group for the benefit Thong family to benefit his next generation loh!
Without the Strong forces from the mkt.....Thong will be able to privatise Insas at Rm 2.20 to Rm 3.00 compare to Insas intrinsic value of Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00 loh!
Thus it is very important for insas shareholders to get the valuation of insas right mah!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
For a start raider n gang will be accumulating more insas & insas warrant very soon to make another round big gain on this stock mah!
It is no brainer when Tong Kooi Ong value insas mother at Rm 4.33 and board insas warrant at Rm 0.425 when the current latest share price of insas is at Rm 1.16 n warrant at rm 0.37 loh!
Big opportunity to buy more loh!
Remember this loh!
U need to focus on profit opportunity of insas mah!
In insas case u r paying only Rm 1.16 per share to buy a wealth of Rm 6.00 per share mah!
This an obvious no brainer....the answer is obvious loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
What OTB said is highly correctloh!
The highest price for Insas todate is rm 1.32 loh!
Thus it will need to comeback to break above Rm 1.32 & subsequently break above Rm 1.80 and eventually reach Rm 6.00 loh!
Thus for those who sold their insas mother & warrant, it is time making a come back n make a 2nd round loh!
Do not missed this unique opportunity mah!
Posted by OTB > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse
Hope another party is interested to bid for Insas so that the share price is not depressed all the time.
The share price is being depressed for > 10 years.
The share price of Insas should be like the share price of Inari, at least reflects its fundamental.
The share price of Insas below 1.00 is not a fair price, the 4 quarter rolling EPS is 18.16 sen, the share price at least should be equal to 1.82, trading at a PER=10.
My 2 cents comments.
Thank you.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
This type of intelligent question is applicable when u want to buy Nestle at rm 120.00 per share, n its eps is rm 2.80 & nta is only Rm 3.00.
U r trying to justify why u willing to pay so much more loh ?
In insas case u r paying only Rm 1.20 per share to buy a wealth of Rm 6.00 per share mah!
This an obvious no brainer....the answer is obvious loh!
Posted by KingKKK > 48 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Insas seems undervalued by net cash/NTA valuation but also need to ask these questions:
1. What is the future prospect? Can next year earnings grow substantially (my standard at least 10%)?
2. How about the free cash flow? Will it grow in the future? + Has it grown higher historically.
3. What is the management planning to do with the extra cash ... return to shareholder? Or invest in new growth busienss? Or invest in efficiency enhancement of existing business?
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Yes & No loh!
10 yrs ago insas Nta is roughly Rm 1.90 & its EPS is around 13.9 sen with share price 80 sen.
Today Nta is Rm 3.56 & eps is 18 sen with share price Rm 1.20.
Surely a dumb fellow using warren buffet formula will had notice insas wealth has grown by rm 1.66 per share or about 16 sen pa over the 10 yrs loh!
And added back div about roughly 1.5 sen div pa avg your total cash generation from insas is about 17.5 sen pa mah!
If your IRR is 10% pa.....surely base earnings Insas should easily worth Rm 1.75 per share loh!
Remember in 2015, Inari only worth less than Rm 1 billion loh but today it is worth more than Rm 12B mah!
Also we have not factor in the hidden reserve of Inari mark to mkt gain for insas holding of about rm 1.6b which is additional gain of rm 2.42 per share for insas loh!
Thus Insas shareholder funds plus Inari hidden reserve mark to mkt gain will contribute potential wealth of Rm 6.00 per share to insas loh!
Surely insas will worth much more than Rm 1.20 loh!
Posted by paperplane > 54 minutes ago | Report Abuse
insas FOREVER UNDERVALUED, IN FACT undervalue more than 10 years.....lol. what does it tell you then/
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Beyond 6 mths after this insas should be flying from Rm 1.80 towards Rm 10.00 loh!
If u r concern & fear of the mkt...........u should bet very big on INSAS loh!
Do not missed this defensive profitable opportunity loh!
Thus get ready to board the plane loh!
Posted by probability > 3 hours ago | Report Abuse
To all the young investors,
Insas one thing for sure, its value is way way higher than what market is pricing now....
But, all the available mechanism which can force the price to move to approach fair valuation as hinted by all sifus like KC Chong, OTB, TheEdge TKO, Sslee, Stockraider, Leno all....i guess will never come to fruition unless some human has the will to do so...
But, there is another natural mechanism...that is time
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
u think Insas is going to move up to Rm 1.50 to Rm 2.00 soon, & u know Insas should be worth at least Rm 4.33 base on Edge Tong conservative valuation n in which insas has huge margin of safety loh! There r better way loh!
What u should do is allocate substantial resources to insas in order to get rich safely & steadily loh!
The correct approach for insas are as follows loh!
1. Allocate substantial investable assets into insas, say u have Rm 1m.....u must invest at least 30% @ Rm 300k into Insas loh!
2. Allocate substantial of your future saving by investing insas more loh! For example U n your wife earn Rm 20k a month & u can save Rm 6k a mth...........thus u should invest in insas Rm 18k every 3 mths loh!
Raider suggest this Rm 18k is a comparative smaller sum, thus u should allocate this savings fund just for investing in insas-w to maximise exposure loh!
Having done that, u will on the route of great wealth loh!
But u must monitor Insas share price to ensure that u have adequate margin of safety loh....Raider suggest u stop putting more money into insas when it hit above Rm 3.20 mah!
And u may consider sell a small % of insas slowly when it trade above Rm 3.80 loh!
The above r the right way of investing in insas & raider follower ahfah the queen of investment in Pasar Pudu adopt this method & gain substantial wealth without taking excessive risk loh!
Ahfah proudly tell his fellow vegetable sellers this loh!:
"I have make about Rm 200k profit just investing in insas & its warrant within 3 mths loh! Just imagine how much i need to sell vegetables, if i make rm 1 per kg from vegetable, that will be 200,000 kg or 200 tonnes loh!"
"Good share management & investment tech is very important if we want to accumulate substantial wealth sustainably & i would like to thank General Raider for that mah!"
What are the strong point investing insas in a nutshell leh ?
Very Good Observations by Raider good old friend Probability mah!
True mah.....Insas is cash rich with more than Rm 1 billion net cash, why Insas need to sell more M&A and Inari recently to raise significantly more cash leh ?
The answer is Thong will like to Use Insas as a vehicle to privatise the Group for the benefit Thong family to benefit his next generation loh!
Without the Strong forces from the mkt.....Thong will be able to privatise Insas at Rm 2.20 to Rm 3.00 compare to Insas intrinsic value of Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00 loh!
Thus it is very important for insas shareholders to get the valuation of insas right mah!
Many prominent value investors value insas differently loh!
1. Sifu Sslee Target Rm 1.50.
2. Insas Eps 18.2 @ pe 12x = Rm 2.20.
3.Ahmoi the best friend of Ahfah in Pasar Pudu Rm 3.00.
4. Nta of insas exclude all the potential hidden gain Rm 3.56
5. Ahfah the investment queen in pasar Pudu Rm 3.90 to Rm 4.80
6. Tong Kooi Ong of Edge Rm 4.33
7. Leno Rm 6.00 and Rm60.00
8. General Raider Rm 7.00 to Rm 8.00
On what occasion should Insas be value at around Rm 7.00 to Rm 10.00 leh ?
When there is a hostile sizeable investors coming in loh!
Sizeable means investors willing to buy more than 20% of insas share & to be a business partner to Thong loh!
Who r the sizeable partner willing to fork up so much monies of more than Rm 250m just to buy 20% of insas leh ??
It should be a value investors who understand Insas type of business n a good fit is Edge Tong & his allies loh!
It could Raider & Gangs with support of Tycoon behind the scene supporting & financing the deals loh!
Base on raider & gang matrix , the big investors is accumulating big in insas at rm 1.26 and warrants Rm 0.45, the funds require purchase 20% exposure will be Rm 250m loh!
This work out to a cost of roughly Rm 1.80 per share compare to the potential intrinsic value of insas Rm 7.00 to Rm 10.00 loh!
Thus minority shareholders should expect big volume of insas will be traded everyday from rm 1.26 to rm 1.80 over the next 6 mths loh!
People always think of getting or hoping a new major shareholder & unlocking the hidden value of insas loh!
The truth is Thong is quietly unlocking value stealthly without people noticing mah!
" Insas strength is a very strong incubator of business loh!"
Once people realized this.....there will be chasing Insas above Rm 3.00 loh!
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Do not bet so heavy on Tenaga bcos Anwar will use it to subsidize the Rakyat B40 & M40 loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Govt has never tax more on the middle income, just that govt a removing some of the subsidy loh!
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Middle income make up the bulk of the msia population, thus to raise revenue the middle income need to bear some of the cost of removing subsidy loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Correct loh.....this point to sitting on insas will be long run more beneficial as a way of growing your wealth loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 day ago | Report Abuse
General trading: anticipating moves in the market as a whole.
Selective trading: picking out stocks which will do better than the market in the short term.
Benjamin Graham warned what NOT to do. He did not consider that either general trading or selective trading has any place in investment practice. Both of them are essentially *speculative* in character because they depend for success not only on the ability to foretell specifically what is going to happen, but on the ability also to do this more cleverly than a host of competitors in the field.
The real money in investing will have to be made - as most of it has been in the past - not out of buying and selling, but out of OWNING AND HOLDING securities, receiving interest and dividends, and benefiting from their long-term increase in value.
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Div yield is around 5% pa, good buy loh!
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MI steady growing tech stock, will bounce very high once tech recovery likely to be Q3 2024 loh!
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Csc undervalue rock solid long term high div investment loh!
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Correct loh.....this point to sitting on insas will be long run more beneficial as a way of growing your wealth loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 day ago | Report Abuse
General trading: anticipating moves in the market as a whole.
Selective trading: picking out stocks which will do better than the market in the short term.
Benjamin Graham warned what NOT to do. He did not consider that either general trading or selective trading has any place in investment practice. Both of them are essentially *speculative* in character because they depend for success not only on the ability to foretell specifically what is going to happen, but on the ability also to do this more cleverly than a host of competitors in the field.
The real money in investing will have to be made - as most of it has been in the past - not out of buying and selling, but out of OWNING AND HOLDING securities, receiving interest and dividends, and benefiting from their long-term increase in value.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Correct loh.....this point to sitting on insas will be long run more beneficial as a way of growing your wealth loh!
Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$â¬Â£Â¥ > 1 day ago | Report Abuse
General trading: anticipating moves in the market as a whole.
Selective trading: picking out stocks which will do better than the market in the short term.
Benjamin Graham warned what NOT to do. He did not consider that either general trading or selective trading has any place in investment practice. Both of them are essentially *speculative* in character because they depend for success not only on the ability to foretell specifically what is going to happen, but on the ability also to do this more cleverly than a host of competitors in the field.
The real money in investing will have to be made - as most of it has been in the past - not out of buying and selling, but out of OWNING AND HOLDING securities, receiving interest and dividends, and benefiting from their long-term increase in value.
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Still trading below IPO loh!
Maybe opportunity
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
This is good for the economy n anything good for the economy will be good for the stockmkt & swk loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
The majority of the M40 should be blame for over spending which affect their accumulation of wealth & eventual comfortable retirement mah!
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Kseng very stable investment mah!
Rock solid loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Undervalue bank & good div, can buyloh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
I think people should not attack OTB loh!
OTB is kind enough to share his success with us mah!
We should positively learn from him to be successful investment & not to be negatively jealous loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
Sapnrg should ramp up to 10 to 12 sen when the restructuring exercise is implemented mah!
This is a handsome game of more than 100% loh!
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To be fair YR 2024 until todate Bjland & Bcorp are some of top performer in klse in terms of share price gain loh!
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To be fair , ever since that icap came out with an innovative dividend formula, icap share price had improved considerably mah!
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Insas will beat Osk share price soon loh!
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2 months ago | Report Abuse
These soorhaiiii naysayers talk nothing good in this insas thread loh!
A good example is this kon mike loh.....what good did he says about Insas leh ??
U see pea brain like him can only talk kook but cannot contribute any quality discussion loh!
But Raider & gang remain optimistic on this insas just base on insas fundamental facts bought about 2m units of insas an average cost of rm 1.15 per units & now siting on an unrealized gain of Rm 130k just over less than 7 trading days loh!
Stop saying that Insas is a value trap loh....there nothing fundamental wrong with investing with deep margin of safety mah!
Simple common sense loh!
U pay Rm 1150 for a potential intrinsic value of Insas of Rm 6.00 mah!
How can u go wrong leh ???
So stop talking kook & just stick to the fundamental of insas mah!