Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 11:27 | Report Abuse

I know what is a business sense: non of you have not stated the real answer to what is Mr. KYY's kind of business sense, he is a Genius who made a lot of money from the kind of business sense he is talking about. Let KCCHONG tries to understand Mr. KYY's kind of business sense by explaining it himself. What is the business sense KCCHONG for example for Mr. KYY? Can you explain it. Just like we already understand your business sense from the standpoint of a customer: we have business sense when we understand that you are trying to sell FA learning to your customers. A customer can have business sense too so does the seller or so call FA promoted by understanding the buyer's motive. Do you have business sense by understanding what Mr. KYY wants and what is Mr. KYY's business sense, can you explain it. He knows you want his money by giving him poor advice, so did he do, he gives you money to teach you by giving you back good advice to the person who want to use him. ok! Can you explain what is Mr. KYY's business sense right now? Could you please explain it for everyone of us?

A business sense for a seller is to understand the buyer's motive?
What is Mr. KYY's motive? Can you explain it for us all?

Posted by 3iii > 2016-12-14 11:34 | Report Abuse

<<<<Posted by tksw > Dec 14, 2016 09:17 AM | Report Abuse

KLCI King, if I were to choose a sifu for my son, one of them will be KCChong sifu. by the way, you got any published articles or not? Let me read read, see can be a real sifu or not?>>> Yes, agree totally. :-)

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 11:35 | Report Abuse

sostupid sifu, common sense tell me KYY tok this sense that sense to drive down Gadang. Why not tok Xing Quan as this is a far more educational for wha he so call stupid losers in stock market.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 11:37 | Report Abuse

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 14, 2016 12:48 AM | Report Abuse
Agreed with Risk Rider, too much talking & KC is now busy showing off his writing skill & trying to prove he is the one should be regarded as the best SIFU in i3, and how he is far superior than anyone else, in writing articleS.


Writing to share my investment philosophy, methodologies and strategies is "busy showing off his writing skill & trying to prove he is the one should be regarded as the best SIFU in i3, and how he is far superior than anyone else, in writing articleS."?

Really ah? So free and have nothing else to do?

Listen to what this gentleman said,

Posted by tksw > Dec 14, 2016 09:17 AM | Report Abuse
KLCI King, if I were to choose a sifu for my son, one of them will be KCChong sifu. by the way, you got any published articles or not? Let me read read, see can be a real sifu or not?

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 11:38 | Report Abuse

what he has is not "business sense", he is privy to certain information by virtue of his richness/posisition/connection/relationship that are not normally avaiable to the public.

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 11:39 | Report Abuse

When you write an article for free, what can you expect? All praises? All positive comments? More subscribers for your services?

What is the basic qualification/rules to comment?

Only those give praise do not need any, but those give negative comments must have written few articles then only can comment? What a world!

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 11:40 | Report Abuse

he knows the business risk of a construction business, why not emphasize on it when challenged ppl to buy Gadang?

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 11:42 | Report Abuse

That's why KC never replied my comment until someone else do it, so he can refer to what others said & he can claim he never said it.

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 11:43 | Report Abuse

FA dun study business risks meh? FA dun think about business prospect meh? FA dun check competitiveness of a business meh? FA totally dun analyse strength and weaknesses of a company and its management meh?

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 11:44 | Report Abuse

For tksw, he knows only "TRADING" in Gadang, nothing else, what else he knows about value investment? Everyday ding dong at Gadang only. And yet KC you refer his comment.

Posted by 3iii > 2016-12-14 11:44 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 11:46 | Report Abuse

KLCI King: This is the first time I am seeing people writing the smartest comments that I have ever read in my life, what do you always do, so that you can create such heavenly intelligence.

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 11:47 | Report Abuse

KC, you write articles for your own business purposes, that's your choice, please don't try to say you do it for free.

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 11:49 | Report Abuse

tksw: may I ask you and could you please tell what do you prefer: to be screwed or to screw by FA or something silly funny looking like a oster?

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 11:55 | Report Abuse

To be fair to you, Mr KC, the following will be my comments for newbies:

I do think that many newbies who have NO or LITTLE knowledge about accounting & financial reporting, it is advisable to learn FA.

Business owners will only want to know how much cash in hand & how much cash can be generated later. None of them will look at stock price charts to make business decision.

Think investment as business, not instrument to make quick cash.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 11:56 | Report Abuse

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 14, 2016 11:44 AM | Report Abuse
For tksw, he knows only "TRADING" in Gadang, nothing else, what else he knows about value investment? Everyday ding dong at Gadang only. And yet KC you refer his comment.


Don't you find tksw's comments here very logical and full of common sense?

It is not because his comments agree with me. It is just a coincidence.

And look at your comments, and that so stupid fellow comments. Do you use any facts to back up your comments.

Don't get me wrong. I never yearn for positive comments. I am very happy with constructive criticisms, with facts.

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 11:57 | Report Abuse

A business sense for a seller is to understand the buyer's motive? So what is it?

My uncle's common sense and this is surely not from 3iii's common sense because he treated everyone of us like his kids to force us to learn FA.

Find out what the buyer is good at doing and sell him that something so that he the buyer can do what he (the buyer) is good at doing.

Seller has to make buyer feeling "the buyer is smarter than the seller" for the buyer to eat the bait.

How can KCCHONG sell anything to uncle? of course he can't.

KC only sells to kindagarten students as a matter of fact or totally innocent virgin men and women. You all are virgin men's and women's and thank God and my uncle for their good advice that is because I am not.

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 12:02 | Report Abuse

KC, do you know how old is tksw? do you see a big "IF"

Posted by tksw > Dec 14, 2016 09:17 AM | Report Abuse
KLCI King, if I were to choose a sifu for my son, one of them will be KCChong sifu. by the way, you got any published articles or not? Let me read read, see can be a real sifu or not?

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 14, 2016 11:56 AM | Report Abuse
Don't you find tksw's comments here very logical and full of common sense?

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 12:03 | Report Abuse

You may overlook my comment, I reproduce again here:

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 14, 2016 11:39 AM | Report Abuse X
When you write an article for free, what can you expect? All praises? All positive comments? More subscribers for your services?

What is the basic qualification/rules to comment?

Only those give praise do not need any, but those give negative comments must have written few articles then only can comment? What a world!

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 12:06 | Report Abuse

A young boy was saying if I were to choose a sifu for my son, one of them will be KCChong sifu.

Sound like a poor beggar declaring if I have 10 million, I will surely give you 1 million.

KC, you called it "very logical and full of common sense?"

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 14, 2016 11:56 AM | Report Abuse
Don't you find tksw's comments here very logical and full of common sense?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 12:09 | Report Abuse

Posted by 3iii > Dec 14, 2016 11:44 AM | Report Abuse
SYNOPSIS OF THIS LONG ARTICLE
COMMENT: Very sound advice.


Thank you 3iii, you make my day and provide me with the urge to continue writing and educating the general public in this jungle of investing.

Same for the below comment, thanks KLCI King

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 14, 2016 11:55 AM | Report Abuse
To be fair to you, Mr KC, the following will be my comments for newbies:
I do think that many newbies who have NO or LITTLE knowledge about accounting & financial reporting, it is advisable to learn FA.
Business owners will only want to know how much cash in hand & how much cash can be generated later. None of them will look at stock price charts to make business decision.
Think investment as business, not instrument to make quick cash.

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 12:11 | Report Abuse

KC, I rather advise those newbies to spent money to learn the basic of FA instead of spent money joining groups & waiting for news.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 12:20 | Report Abuse

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 14, 2016 12:11 PM | Report Abuse
KC, I rather advise those newbies to spent money to learn the basic of FA instead of spent money joining groups & waiting for news.


It doesn't matter where one learns FA. He can also learn through internet if he is able to,totally free. Yeah, no need to spend money and wait for news.

Oh yeah, I don't spread news and rumours.

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 12:22 | Report Abuse

When the company has money (or plan to obtain money in the future) the boss do not have to push up share prices (right now). When company does not have money in the future he push up share prices (right now). because the buyer's they like to eat free lunch in the form of oxygen or they try to be stupid losers on their own. There has been no hard feeling done against or any intention to insult anyone if he (my uncle) told you you are "stupid losers" because he is trying very very very hard to tell you not to eat oxygen kind of free lunch.

Complete my educational purpose (in Gadang case).

sostupid (please don't thank me I hate insults as of matter of fact very deeply)

14/12/2016 12:19

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 12:24 | Report Abuse

Buyer's motive=free lunch
Seller=Mr. Ooi the salesman

My Uncle=the Genius

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 12:24 | Report Abuse

Oh yeah, I knew that, that's the reason I said that, thank you.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 12:32 | Report Abuse

KLCI King KC, do you know how old is tksw? do you see a big "IF"

Posted by tksw > Dec 14, 2016 09:17 AM | Report Abuse
KLCI King, if I were to choose a sifu for my son, one of them will be KCChong sifu. by the way, you got any published articles or not? Let me read read, see can be a real sifu or not?

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 14, 2016 11:56 AM | Report Abuse
Don't you find tksw's comments here very logical and full of common sense?
14/12/2016 12:02


tksw read my my articles. He likes what I have been propagating in i3investors, and wish his son (future son?)to learn investing from me. I don't know who tksw is, how old is he, but taking the comment at face value, I find it logical and full of common sense.

More so if he is a young man, much better in common sense than some older ones.

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 12:56 | Report Abuse

This is a very meaningful article the author wrote and the article is not better or worst than old articles he wrote I am glad he wrote it now by using a lot of words with very sincerely and promising advices. FA is splendic and concentrate is FA. Class homework online is better to focus on company analysis. Sell FA don't sell company analysis in public forum but sell only learning of company analysis in online learning would be more inducive for people to enrol in your online learning. Good luck. See FA first don't sell company analysis. You are well read and gave good examples and sell FA with good examples of other people that does well in investing first. You need to advertise what you are good at and advertise what is useful to your students or those you are even better than what you are good at to your own customers in the online learning.

Posted by sostupid > 2016-12-14 12:57 | Report Abuse

customers bring in new customers if you can first convince your old customers to like you even better than when they first met you.

Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-12-14 13:13 | Report Abuse

True, many newbies expect magical formula or news by paying a sum to join certain news groups. That may work in short term, but not really helpful in long term. 学渔优于干等鱼，得渔将受用终生

Posted by coolinvestor > 2016-12-14 13:15 | Report Abuse

moneysifu....the old saying works too

teach a man how to fish is better than just giving him fish

those who expects to keep getting fish will always lose out in the long run...even they do not know it themselves...sigh

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 14:32 | Report Abuse

KLCI King sifu, actually I know nothing.

Posted by tksw > 2016-12-14 14:33 | Report Abuse

Stock Market, Stock not for trade, for what?

Posted by bracoli > 2016-12-14 19:59 | Report Abuse

Kc it has been long since ecs. When Will u write a new stock analysis for learning purposes

Posted by kcchongnz > 2016-12-14 20:24 | Report Abuse

Posted by bracoli > Dec 14, 2016 07:59 PM | Report Abuse
Kc it has been long since ecs. When Will u write a new stock analysis for learning purposes


I have done that a lot in the last 4 years, haven't I?

The problem is when you give fish to others, they don't know how to cook, although the fish given generally were good, but they mess it up themselves.

So now what I do is if someone want a fish, he must learn how to cook well from me, then only it taste good. That is what I am doing now, teach FA and give stock pick analysis for learners to be able to think and analyze, and choose stocks themselves.

What do you think of this,

Posted by coolinvestor > Dec 14, 2016 01:15 PM | Report Abuse
moneysifu....the old saying works too
teach a man how to fish is better than just giving him fish
those who expects to keep getting fish will always lose out in the long run...even they do not know it themselves...sigh

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-14 21:19 | Report Abuse

tksw sifu,

now you talk like a real sifu
so different from the tksw I know in gadang thread

KC ,

let me share with you another Chinese saying

A WISE MAN NEVER MAKE HIMSELF LOOKS WISE UNNECESSARY
“ 大智若愚”

look at tksw sifu , then you can't diasagree
but the stupid group of people can not agree because they have not enough wisdom to agree

KLCI king

a sincere advice for you, do not be rude to sifu KC , he is your senior and everybody here can read that he is a better sifu than you , more contributions to the i3 public than you, you called yourself king , you want to be king ,then you should have exercised more humility than most people, if not where got people want to support you as king . or... you are very happy with the self proclaimed title ?

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-14 21:32 | Report Abuse

xuewen, take a time to look at your history, you are the worse forum user I ever knew, you know nothing about investment but pretended to act like very clever. SEE BELOW:

ALL YOUR ACCOUNTS WERE BANNED FOR CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR:
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen2.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen6.jsp.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen33.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xuewen88.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu2.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu3.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/ong1122.jsp

Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2016-12-15 00:39 | Report Abuse

Well written, KC!

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 01:10 | Report Abuse

KLCI king
That doesn't prove anything
That only clearly show you keep all my record
My record is very valuable to you , you treasure it as much as your own
That mean I am a significant person to you
If not you would not have response to me
Do you see how the logic works ?
You still have a lot to learn from me , not only investment but also logic and I think you must start from the most basic.
Do not get disheartened, the first harder of learning is always the most difficult to cross but God never exhaust one will to success, tell yourself there is always a day you will learn .
First lesson you must learn now is humility ..
So do not be rude to others . We can always learn something from others. Have you not heard before that Confucious said you can always find a teacher from those people you get together .
Next lesson , do not try to prove other people mistake , it is meaningless , there is a day they will see their their own mistake and grateful to us to have saved their skin.
Understand ?
Don't understand? Never mind. One day you will learn

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 09:28 | Report Abuse

KC,
Do not waste your time on KLCI king
He is not your worthy oponent
Any value in his comments?
Learn anything ?
NONE!
You know , I know , everybody knows he is not that "king" as he is dreaming of himself
We big people don't kira so much with small people
Carry on educate the investing public here
You will gain more respect if you set your focus right
Pardon me to say , from the bottom of my heart , from the hearts of many readers here, our great sifu KC not is very much different from our greatly respected sifu KC long long ago . More an OTB ,no more great sifu like icon8888 and sifu felicity .....

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 09:39 | Report Abuse

Many of us come to i3 are hunger riden
We come here to get fish and learn fishing
You give fish we get fish
You give fishing we may not get fish
Fish and fishing is parenting education
Share market need sentiment more than education
So this theory does not exactly work right here and now
Why not sometimes now and then give us some fish before we die of starvation
Hope you read my comments with a more positive inclined mind

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 09:50 | Report Abuse

CalvinTaneng,
You are different. You mustn't give
I find most if not all the fishes given by you are near rotten
So giving fishing not fish
Do you not aware more and more people shouting at you now a days
God bless you

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 09:52 | Report Abuse

Calvin mustn't give fish .
Learn the theory "the beauty of silence "

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 09:55 | Report Abuse

Sostupid,

You must learn English
Learn how to express yourself explicitly
Many people complain kepala pusing reading your comments

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-15 10:43 | Report Abuse

Xuewen, wile everyone, including me, have ONE ID only, why you have so many & yet all got banned?

Whatever you said just try to cover up your childish act. Nothing more, because your records said it all.

ALL YOUR ACCOUNTS WERE BANNED FOR CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR:
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen2.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen6.jsp.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/xuewen33.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xuewen88.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu2.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/xwsifu3.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/ong1122.jsp

Posted by joekit > 2016-12-15 10:51 | Report Abuse

Xuewen = KLCI King = sostupid = a woman = crazy

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-15 10:53 | Report Abuse

This joekit must be idiot

Posted by KLCI King > 2016-12-15 10:56 | Report Abuse

joekit, is your mother a woman or a guy?

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 12:10 | Report Abuse

Posted by KLCI King > Dec 15, 2016 10:43 AM | Report Abuse

Xuewen, wile everyone, including me, have ONE ID only, why you have so many & yet all got banned?


KLCI king，

please do not mislead the readers here about my many ID and abnned account

1. to ban one's account here you do not need the i3 admin to do for you you can do it yourself if you know the trick . my account is banned by you not i3 admin

2. account and ID are 2 different entities
I have many accounts but all same ID "xuewen"
you said I have many ID that show you still have a lot to learn


Posted by joekit > Dec 15, 2016 10:51 AM | Report Abuse

Xuewen = KLCI King = sostupid = a woman = crazy



are you jealous because I did not pay attention to you
or,
are you so crazy so desperate wanting wise man like me to scold you
do you know how to read chinese ?
know what is the meaning "欠骂" ?
or
joekit = sostupid = STUPID = idiot

Posted by xuewen > 2016-12-15 12:14 | Report Abuse

if you are a gentleman , a real hero as you claim
do not flag me , keep my comment here , let me carry on with the same account with the same ID. let the readers here be the judge who has value in their comments. who talks with wisdom who does not. not you to tell the reader here who is idiot , who is not . learn !!!!!