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3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-10-28 07:21 | Report Abuse

https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2012/10/propertycasualty-insurance-accounting.html?m=0

Property/casualty insurance accounting

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-10-28 07:34 | Report Abuse

https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2012/06/investors-checklist-asset-management.html?m=0

investor's checklist for asset management and insurance.

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2018-10-28 07:35 | Report Abuse

Insurance Companies of Malaysia
Click here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-RRzs61sKqRWmp5ZEFEREw4VWM

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 08:45 | Report Abuse

thanks 3iii

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 08:54 | Report Abuse

Ah Jon track record mana?

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 08:55 | Report Abuse

This kind of outcome bias... Article too late. Should publish 20 years ago

lizi

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Posted by lizi > 2018-10-28 09:20 | Report Abuse

20 years ago, jon still drinking baby milk..cannot write.

Alex™ This kind of outcome bias... Article too late. Should publish 20 years ago
28/10/2018 08:55

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 09:32 | Report Abuse

There are 2-3 insurance companies now selling for quite interesting valuations.

Should i tell you which? Can, give me RM5k :) Hahaha

Oh well, if you got money for US stocks, look at Brighthouse Financial. Its interesting.


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Posted by Alex™ > Oct 28, 2018 08:55 AM | Report Abuse

This kind of outcome bias... Article too late. Should publish 20 years ago

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 09:56 | Report Abuse

Jon Choivo I'll show you 3 years from now, if you're still around! Good or bad, i cannot promise!


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Alex™ Ah Jon track record mana?
28/10/2018 08:54

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 10:04 | Report Abuse

Jon eventually still the track records counts...fm my obversation on i3 since 2012/2013 very few can prove so..otb is one of them..

Many so called sifu or young ciku come n go n disappear..

Even kyy turns fm superinvestor into laughing stock

Lets c....

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 10:05 | Report Abuse

Oh i remember one young guy bones kena reported sc n kena took action

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 10:07 | Report Abuse

So is cpteh..started as a TA expert for a short period of time n managed to open 10 cohort class n since that talking abt cut loss n mkt crash forever while keeping his money in asb earning 7 to 8% return per year..smart joker

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 10:24 | Report Abuse

hahaha good business in malaysia nowadays to teach people fiddling in the stock market. All charge few thousands, really lah I also know if so easy to earn from Bursa why open classes ah? Why not just earn in Bursa and enough lah...

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 10:27 | Report Abuse

sadly many younger people think Bursa easy make money, and go pay these jokers.... end up sama sama go Holland in Bursa. worse still is lose the so called "tuition fees" wakakaka... Maybe Security Commission or Bursa really need to do something to curb these kind of shitty business

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 10:35 | Report Abuse

Do you know who made the most money during the 19th century gold rush in california?

Not the people who searched for gold, but the ones who sold the shovels.

Who makes the most money in the stock market? Not the investors. But the fund managers, the unit trust providers, the people who sell useless advice, insurance companies, unit trust agents, investment bankers.

Everyone but the average investors.
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Posted by Fantastico > Oct 28, 2018 10:24 AM | Report Abuse

hahaha good business in malaysia nowadays to teach people fiddling in the stock market. All charge few thousands, really lah I also know if so easy to earn from Bursa why open classes ah? Why not just earn in Bursa and enough lah...


Posted by Fantastico > Oct 28, 2018 10:27 AM | Report Abuse

sadly many younger people think Bursa easy make money, and go pay these jokers.... end up sama sama go Holland in Bursa. worse still is lose the so called "tuition fees" wakakaka... Maybe Security Commission or Bursa really need to do something to curb these kind of shitty business

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 10:37 | Report Abuse

Of course. Many can talk about investing well, few can actually do well.

The thing about track record, is that they take time. If you want a 5 year track record, you need 5 years in market.

We'll see i guess. If you're around in 5 years, you'll see my record i suppose. And we'll find out together if im rubbish or if im good.


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Posted by CharlesT > Oct 28, 2018 10:04 AM | Report Abuse

Jon eventually still the track records counts...fm my obversation on i3 since 2012/2013 very few can prove so..otb is one of them..

Many so called sifu or young ciku come n go n disappear..

Even kyy turns fm superinvestor into laughing stock

Lets c....

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 10:52 | Report Abuse

Jon, in that case do you consider yourself a shovel seller? I do think the shovel seems better than most of the useless ones in the market. Maybe your shovel has gold detector attached to it?

Posted by Learner King > 2018-10-28 10:54 | Report Abuse

This stupid choivo write new article again. So much time want cheat people invest into his scam fund.

Posted by teareader818 > 2018-10-28 10:57 | Report Abuse

Jon selling shovels in Bursa goldmine?

lizi

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Posted by lizi > 2018-10-28 11:02 | Report Abuse

Agree with Jon on this. Remember, sales person are the one who make guarantee profit...teaching stock and selling tips are booming.

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Jon Choivo Do you know who made the most money during the 19th century gold rush in california?

Not the people who searched for gold, but the ones who sold the shovels.

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 11:03 | Report Abuse

wrong, it's a shovel with gold detector. Better than most in the market, those shovel by scammers maybe can't even dig anything

Posted by antoniomc27 > 2018-10-28 11:05 | Report Abuse

Jon, thanks for your articles. I find them insightful and it helps me on my learning journey.

lizi

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Posted by lizi > 2018-10-28 11:06 | Report Abuse

shovel can dig gold or not? does it matter? the key is can sell shovel...

"Sell me this pen" -- Jordan Belford

Posted by teareader818 > 2018-10-28 11:42 | Report Abuse

Shovels may not sell well now as Bursa's gold is in bed rock. Requires big time promoters use extractors. Business will pick up when there's alluvial gold. Good business can also lose money. Timing is the essence.

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 11:43 | Report Abuse

I think right, in Bursa want to find gold, need dynamite only can. Shovel not enough

Posted by teareader818 > 2018-10-28 11:55 | Report Abuse

I think at the moment good research reports can sell more than shovels.

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 11:59 | Report Abuse

Haha. The only place where i may make money from others is the fund.

And the fund remuneration structure is incentivized such that i can ONLY make money if my clients make money.

If they lose money, i lose money, and i need to compensate.

This shovel seller only collects money if you find gold. No gold, no need pay him! Hahaha

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Posted by teareader818 > Oct 28, 2018 10:57 AM | Report Abuse

Jon selling shovels in Bursa goldmine?

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 12:07 | Report Abuse

aiya, no track record, want collect RM5k fee?

Like this la, you hoot RM1m for me on that 3 companies, when success liao, u take 10%, i take 90%. More than your desired RM5k fee.

Then you got track record, alex can help u promote get more water fish come in also

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Posted by Jon Choivo > Oct 28, 2018 09:32 AM | Report Abuse

There are 2-3 insurance companies now selling for quite interesting valuations.

Should i tell you which? Can, give me RM5k :) Hahaha

Oh well, if you got money for US stocks, look at Brighthouse Financial. Its interesting.


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Posted by Alex™ > Oct 28, 2018 08:55 AM | Report Abuse

This kind of outcome bias... Article too late. Should publish 20 years ago

value88

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Posted by value88 > 2018-10-28 12:07 | Report Abuse

Good article. Good info.

value88

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Posted by value88 > 2018-10-28 12:08 | Report Abuse

I think LPI and TunePro are few of the insurance companies which can make money from its insurance business. It is not difficult to make money from investment business, but not easy to profit from insurance business.

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 12:16 | Report Abuse

Alex how to become your respondent ah

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 12:19 | Report Abuse

wait first, my professor boss belum approve ayam project....once time come i will publicize at i3 together with bonus content on 'how i huat in hrc from RM5 to RM19', hehe

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 12:25 | Report Abuse

wakakkakaka looking forward to it, please ask your boss to approve it lah kikiki

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-10-28 13:51 | Report Abuse

Not interested in working with water fish.

Bring me sharks as investors. Extremely smart ones who will argue back and keep me on my toes.

Then don't pay loh :)

You bring me RM1m, i hoot for you lah, no problem. Same terms. 4.5%, 40% of profit above that. Capital guaranteed.

But since you want give so much, 10 year lock!

Do that, i be nice to you. No need the research fee, tell you for free! Hahaha


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Alex™ aiya, no track record, want collect RM5k fee?

Like this la, you hoot RM1m for me on that 3 companies, when success liao, u take 10%, i take 90%. More than your desired RM5k fee.

Then you got track record, alex can help u promote get more water fish come in also

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 13:53 | Report Abuse

@Fantastico

lai liao, huat arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/testing.com/179868.jsp

Alex™

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Posted by Alex™ > 2018-10-28 13:54 | Report Abuse

okok ah jon, come back 10 years with track record then we talk.

now, alex also can talk, tapi with track record kiki

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 14:47 | Report Abuse

Jon, fyi takaful also had an insane rights issues of 7 for 5 at rm1.00 in 2003...n till now takaful is still around...posting more n more profit?

Btw how u define a rights issue is sane or insane?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 14:51 | Report Abuse

Is a young boy with no track record (ok ok one year made 10%+ n the second year loss more than 15%) in stock mkt but writes long essay with good england charging rm5k per tips considered sane or insane?

For those (anyone here?) Paying rm5k to his tips sane or insane?

Just wonder....

Fantastico

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Posted by Fantastico > 2018-10-28 14:53 | Report Abuse

CharlesT, many outside charging 2k to 3k on Technical Analaysis. This one Wallen Bluffet analysis 5k, I think okay lah... many rich uncle aunties in Malaysia mah... But me can't afford lah kikiki

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 14:59 | Report Abuse

Shall we hv a small game here...say u bet rm10k to buy 10k mnrb at rm1.00 n hold for 1 year till 01 nov 2019. I will guarantee you rm10k+ 8% rm10,800. Anything more than 8% will be shared by two of us on 50 to 50 basis..

Fun? Sounds a much better deal than yr scheme to your good friends / investors....

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:01 | Report Abuse

U see..u r not even my good friend i also can offer u such a good deal...happy?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:02 | Report Abuse

U dont hv to pass yr money to me...u just hv to buy 10k mnrb at rm1.00 n keep it in yr own ac till 01 nov

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:17 | Report Abuse

Yr major risk..i run away fm i3 one year later lol

Anyway i treasure my reputation in i3 here worth more than rm10,800..

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:23 | Report Abuse

Whats the value of yr fund unit now? 0.90 to 0.95?

3 × 0.045=0.135 for yr guarantee profit by next year..meaning to say the value of yr unit has to be at least rm1.135 by next year so that u no need to break yr small piggy bank to pay to yr investors..

Rm1.135 vs 0.90 to 0.95...meaning to say u hv to make at least 25% profit in the remaining 1 year's time..

Not too much lah i think to a smart investor like u

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:26 | Report Abuse

Anyway if u r not confident to achieve 25% gain in one year time u may consider to sailang all in mnrb...u may hv surprise then...but sorry lah i dont guarantee on that....

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:26 | Report Abuse

Though i aim for 50% gain for my own tp in mnrb....lol

probability

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Posted by probability > 2018-10-28 15:27 | Report Abuse

Charlest change id also will tell you one...if not you can find out who he is by analyzing the ultimate Koon reader...

unlike Koon, he is responsible and..

his response rate to your query is 101%...

he wont block you from commenting or criticizing him like Koon...


Posted by CharlesT > Oct 28, 2018 03:17 PM | Report Abuse

Yr major risk..i run away fm i3 one year later lol

Anyway i treasure my reputation in i3 here worth more than rm10,800..

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:29 | Report Abuse

Lol..
Bro probability knew me well

probability

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Posted by probability > 2018-10-28 15:29 | Report Abuse

Charles sifu...

why MNRB? there r so many low PE stock selling with visible recurring earnings for the next few years with dividend also...

whats special about MNRB??

what is the catalyst to lift it 10% by end of 2019?

CharlesT

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Posted by CharlesT > 2018-10-28 15:32 | Report Abuse

Aiyo give u more discount lah...i think u can buy few cents lower than rm1.00 on 31 oct...anyway my bet to you is still base on 10k shares at rm1.00

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