Posted by calvintaneng > 2020-12-20 18:00 | Report Abuse

So many posts about Solution

Ok time to a serious calculation of its projected profits

We begin with figure Govt gave as a benchmark

70% of the population will be given free covid 19 vaccine. Purchase is from Usa Pfizer. SO MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO PFIZER.

REMAINING 30% OF POPULATION IF PRIVATE PARTIES ALLOWED TO SELL

ABOUT RM1. 3 BILLIONS

YOU MUST KNOW THAT CANSINO IS PRODUCED BY OUTSIDE ENTITY AND NOT BY SOLUTION

SOLUTION AT BEST IS ONLY A MIDDLE MAN

SINCE VACCINE IS SO POPULAR THE PROFIT MARGIN IS RAZOR THIN

SEE HOW POPULAR IS RED BULL ENERGY DRINK? PROFIT MARGIN ONLY 3%

3% PROFIT?

YES. PHARMANIAGA PROFIT MARGIN ONLY 2%

SO 3% OUT OF RM1. 3 BILLIONS MEAN RM39 MILLION PROFIT

NOW THERE ARE AT LEAST 5 COMPANIES VYING FOR VACCINE

SOLUTION
BINTAI
YONGTAI
HWGB
METRONIC

SO DIVIDE BY 5 = RM7. 9 MILLIONS

SUPPOSE IF SOLUTION MADE A ONE OFF RM7. 9 MILLIONS PROFIT. HOW MUCH?

THE FORMULA IS THIS (REFER TO LATEST QTR REPORT)

RM7, 900,000 DIVIDES BY 416,000

THEN X O. 14

= 2.6 SEN

SO IF SOLUTION DOING ITS UTMOST LUCKY BEST TO MAKE 2.6 SEN

WHAT IS THE VALUE?

IF P/E 10 = 26 SEN

YES A ONE OFF GAIN AFTER THAT NO MORE VALUES SOLUTION AT 26 SEN

IF NO SALES OF VACCINE?

THEN AIYOYO GO BACK BELOW 10 SEN

Posted by calvintaneng > 2020-12-20 18:12 | Report Abuse

That is only a back hand calculation if Solution do get some sales

So all can see and calculate

As i said before Solution price surge is totally a pump and dump operation

Let Calvin give you an illustration

In my youth i joined the scout troop
From time to time in those days scouts were recruited to help in fun fairs

Lever brothers once asked us to help filling up balloons with hydrogen

When rubber balloons were inflated with hydrogen they flew up and stay up

We brought them home and they rose up to the ceiling

It was so fun while it lasted
Then one or two days later the hydrogen does not seem to work anymore and the balloons fell down to the floor one by one

Solution and all hyped up vaccine stocks are just like that

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 18:46 | Report Abuse

Solution price is reflected of the expected future enormous growth in line with the market forward looking trend.

All investment analysts are aware of it but some so called "experts" choose to be ignorant of it for only one reason ....to collect it cheap at the depressed price at which they are trolling for..

It doesn't work .it makes you look stupid...

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 18:55 | Report Abuse

If that's the case, the 39 million net profit will all go to Solution bcos it's the most viable vaccine company.

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 19:00 | Report Abuse

Then it's worth the price.

Posted by Beltland > 2020-12-20 19:02 | Report Abuse

SHCHAN those day set up an office at GuangZhou and send an application letter to CCP state government China to apply Licence to operate Four Digit Number business in GuangZhou, When they received acknowledgement from the authority,they stick label the letter( application letter only,infact China didn't allow gambling) at the main entrance for public viewing.With that paper alone,the price went up sharply and sometimes limit up week after week ,and the price shoot up to 60 ringgit above after 9 months without supporting data like : Where is the Licence to do business ?Where is the business site ? How much the revenue? How much the net profit ? How much dividend pay out ? Purely for gambling and the selling point is the written letter. Now the price for SHCHAN is 51cts only.


For this counter,it is applying the same tactic .nobody seen the real vaccine but director making million from ikan billis pocket. This type of paper talk gambling counter for gambling only.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2020-12-20 19:40 | Report Abuse

007007 is real sorchai

Even if solution got all Rm39 mil one off profit you know the value?

26x5 minus 24% tax = 96.2 sen

Yes maximum possible value is still less than Rm1.00

Still dreaming

Chances are Govt will step up giving all free vaccines like Spore and Indonesia

Remember this statement

Everybody only know the price but not it's value

So all who overpay will suffer later

Since All Vaccine hype rest on flimsy foundation of speculation better get out now while the getting is good

Once Syndicates give up and sell all then you cry father cry mother also no use

Posted by Mike21 > 2020-12-20 19:53 | Report Abuse

I would expect eventually reaching 3.0.. later

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 19:56 | Report Abuse

To counter Calvin 's claim

*Only 30 % of population is from the purchase of Pfizer not 70% as claimed by Calvin

* 70% is from other source.

* assuming half ie 35% of population is fron the purchase of solu,that is 10 million people( 35% x totlal population of 30 m )

* assuming solu derives profit after tax of rm 10 per bottle(min) per head ,that is rm 100 million profit

* solu share base is 364 million

* expected EPS would be rm 0.27

*assuming modest PE 10

*TP would be 2.70( min)

* obviously rm 0.26 as claimed by Calvin is far too unrealistic and untenable.

Posted by Beltland > 2020-12-20 19:59 | Report Abuse

Will olden day SHCHAN story reproduce again ? Nobody knows ! SHCHAN Share price shoot up from 2 ringgit above to 60 ringgit above about 9 month odds .The catalyst to push up the share price is the diamond paper -- Application for licence to operate Four Digit Number in the Province of GuangZhou .The share price shoot up to 60 ringgit above but SHCHAN never run any Four Digit Number business there before because China didn't issue Licence for gambling activity. SHCHAN syndicate made million of million ringgits from ikan billis pocket by selling inflicted share price and zero from core business.

Since the vaccine business is still zero and unknown but the share price already shoot up from 4.5 cent to2.00 ringgit max and the director already made million from your pocket.So be careful,careful !! Run if you made money .

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 19:59 | Report Abuse

The margin of vaccine is much higher as there is no substitute for it unlike certain health drink like red bull....incomparable....

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 20:01 | Report Abuse

The TP could easily hit 3 and above...

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 20:06 | Report Abuse

People like Calvin don't understand that share prices are based on future potential..... example Tesla. And another example, rubber gloves profits are extremely good now, but their future potential is going to normalise, so the share price of glovemakers should not be rising much anymore. People like Calvin think they're very clever, not knowing that they are actually stupid.

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 20:09 | Report Abuse

Ulsr

The total disposal by director is only 0.276% which is insignificant as compared to his total shareholding of more than 25%....(direct and indirect)

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 20:13 | Report Abuse

But then these are " sour grapes" people who had already missed the boat.....so, we understand.

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 20:14 | Report Abuse

I think he knows but trying to insult our intelligence on purpose.

Posted by Abba84 > 2020-12-20 20:15 | Report Abuse

Unknowns n tons of questions unanswered on its vaccines deals, customer s , marketable products availability ,quality n vaccines efficacies,WHO,FDA approvals!!!
3 TP is another sweetie dreams!!

Posted by anthonytkh > 2020-12-20 20:50 | Report Abuse

2 jabs last how long? Lifetime?

Posted by calvintaneng > 2020-12-20 20:55 | Report Abuse

Utter non sense speculation by joyvest

See if Govt next move before simply blindly buy

All based on if this if that

Govt already mentioned free vaccine

Just watch

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 20:55 | Report Abuse

The virus keeps on mutating......so we still don't know. Maybe we need vaccinating for a lifetime .

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 20:56 | Report Abuse

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-20/u-k-s-hancock-says-new-covid-mutatation-is-out-of-control?srnd=premium-asia&utm_source=url_link

Posted by mf > 2020-12-20 21:12 | Report Abuse

ESOS - 50,000 shares at 0.175.

Posted by Zuliana > 2020-12-20 21:16 | Report Abuse

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all Sifu s here.

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:20 | Report Abuse

The world is desperate for covid 19 vaccines....... desperate.

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:22 | Report Abuse

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-18/wealthy-patients-scramble-covid-19-vaccine

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:26 | Report Abuse

It's not just about money....... it's about shortages. There's a global shortage of vaccines.

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:32 | Report Abuse

Whenever you have shortages, you will have black markets.......

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:33 | Report Abuse

Vaccines are even worse than gloves....... vaccines are more essential than gloves.

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 21:35 | Report Abuse

You can produce more gloves, but you cannot produce more vaccines......

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 21:45 | Report Abuse

Free vaccine still need to be paid for by someone.....

Vaccine vendor still derive profit from its sale ...

Posted by awesome20 > 2020-12-20 21:46 | Report Abuse

Solutn gogogo

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 21:47 | Report Abuse

My assumption is reasonable and realistic. It is based on minimum level...

Posted by coolvid > 2020-12-20 21:54 | Report Abuse

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/us-nurse-faints-after-taking-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-shot-1751354-2020-12-20

Count on cansino now .....

Posted by 007007 > 2020-12-20 22:05 | Report Abuse

Mexico already pre-ordered substantial doses of CanSino vaccines...... before they a even approved.

Posted by CKNG8291 > 2020-12-20 22:12 | Report Abuse

Government jump the Q, beware of limit down.

Posted by Daydaylimitup > 2020-12-20 22:51 | Report Abuse

Solution go go go

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-20 23:00 | Report Abuse

After intense discussion. good or bad about Msia order anothe 20% Oxford vaccines already casted on the wall lah. So far 50% chance gone already lah. Left only 20% to go lah. Cansino chances is getting slimmer every week lah. Tomorrow 9am start see how the big players reaction lah. Solution not worth rm1.80. Correct?

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-20 23:02 | Report Abuse

Ularsawawawaw
You are so obsessed with 1.8
Yr fgv not worth 1.3, right?
Yr lambo not worth 0.005 right?
You try to show other u r a "pro", right?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-20 23:04 | Report Abuse

Asean LOA validity is only 6 mths. 2 mths gone already without any action lah. left 4 mths to go not sure refilling plant will proceed or not lah. Until now cansino vaccine also no approval yet lah. Time is running out for solution lah. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-20 23:10 | Report Abuse

lambo I dunno lah. ask the jaga lamborghini one lah. I only kirim salam at there only lah. FGV is just a FD stock lah. What you need is just wait for Felda offer letter lah. Felda 9.9bil Sukuk loan is backed by TSMY whole cabinet lah. Apa lagi need to bother lah. Just wait 3 mths only lah. Risk free lah. Correct?

Posted by calvintaneng > 2020-12-20 23:14 | Report Abuse

MALAYSIA GIVING FREE COVID 19 VACCINE NEWS JUST OUT: HYPED UP VACCINE PLAYS SOLUTION, BINTAI YONGTAI GAME OVER: PREPARE TO LOSE ALL THEN POKAI LEOW!I

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/2020-12-19-story-h1538306943-MALAYSIA_GIVING_FREE_COVID_19_VACCINES_NEW_JUST_OUT_HYPED_UP_VACCINE_PL.jsp

DON'T BE STUBBORN

JUST SELL FAST FAST

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-20 23:58 | Report Abuse

Free vaccine but who is going for it......

Government must pay for it

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 00:14 | Report Abuse

Surely .Calvin tan has an axe to grind.......

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 00:15 | Report Abuse

You can mislead the newbies but not the oldies.......

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 00:22 | Report Abuse

As a self claimed to be reputable analyst,calvin

why couldn't he understand that free vaccine must be paid by someone?

Why couldn't he understand that the vaccine vendor could derive profit from the sale?

Why couldn't he acknowledge that vaccine vendor coulf still make profit?

What makes him think the vaccine vendor would give it for free?.

Posted by Scylla > 2020-12-21 00:26 | Report Abuse

Same with bintai soon lah

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 00:27 | Report Abuse

Who is the same as assholx?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 00:31 | Report Abuse

LONDON (AFP): European countries banned flights from the UK on Sunday (Dec 20) and the World Health Organisation (WHO) called for stronger containment measures as the British government warned that a potent new strain of the virus was "out of control".

As the WHO urged its European members to strengthen measures against a new variant of Covid-19 circulating in Britain, the Netherlands imposed a ban on UK flights from 6:00am (0500 GMT) on Sunday and Belgium said it would follow suit from midnight with a ban on planes and trains from the UK.

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 06:27 | Report Abuse

*Only 30 % of population is from the purchase of Pfizer in line with the Government proposal.

* 70% is from other sources .

* 35% (half of 70%)of population is assumed from the purchase of solu,that is 10 million people( 35% x total population of 30 m )

* profit margin after tax (PAT) is rm 10 per bottle per head (min) assumed to be derived from sale of solu ,that is rm 100 million profit after tax ( rm 10 x10 m).

Note the profit margin after tax of rm 10 per bottle per head is considered very low.it is believed to be higher than rm 10.

* solu share base is 364 million

* expected EPS would be rm 0.27( rm 100m / 364 million shares)

*modest PE is assumed to be 10

*TP would be rm 2.70( min)

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 08:03 | Report Abuse

Someone is counting eggs day and night not even know the chick will turn become a cock or a hen yet. Directors counting purple notes already can buy many eggs from the market. Correct?