Posted by Lollipot Anison > 2015-01-19 15:06 | Report Abuse

free fall. I'm waiting you hapseng-wa

Posted by Johann5354 > 2015-01-19 15:09 | Report Abuse

When is the quarter report will come out?

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 15:12 | Report Abuse

still long time for the Q report....no cash reserve for share buyback. Cash offer for hafary....wrong move...

Posted by money168 > 2015-01-19 15:17 | Report Abuse

hafary is good company, it has good fundamental and high dividend payout. IPO sold SGD 0.2 on nov 2009, 1 split into 2 in 2013, tat's mean up 100%.

Posted by samcghee > 2015-01-19 15:20 | Report Abuse

Wah drop 20 cents liao, touch 3.80 liao, and warrant touch 2.13!

Posted by alibakar > 2015-01-19 15:21 | Report Abuse

hafary just small case. shark is selling. Still long way to drop.
Next week much cheaper

Posted by samcghee > 2015-01-19 15:25 | Report Abuse

Wah! Syiok.

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 15:31 | Report Abuse

ok. reserve the bullet. if drop further, collect more. enough for today buying....

Posted by ken75SHG > 2015-01-19 15:47 | Report Abuse

3.70 by tis week n warrant 2.09, i think! Be patient.......

Posted by win888 > 2015-01-19 15:59 | Report Abuse

Ya reserve bullet and prepare to in..

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:00 | Report Abuse

good time for those to collect more... Cash offer sure cash flow tight lately.

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:00 | Report Abuse

today most likely close it 3.80.....

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 16:10 | Report Abuse

timss, I think it wise to hold back. No point burning even more money.

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 16:12 | Report Abuse

I do not think its shark selling. Even shark has a brain. At some point he must push the price up so that he can sell down again.

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:12 | Report Abuse

I am speachless now.... totally lost of ideas what had happened to hapseng..

Posted by cloud > 2015-01-19 16:15 | Report Abuse

Cut loss already as I cannot comprehend what happen, will enter when it is stable :-(

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 16:15 | Report Abuse

Likewise. If its any comfort to you the owner is now 2 billion shares x 75% x (4.99 - 3.78) =
RM(1,815,000,000) short. ha ha ha

Posted by cloud > 2015-01-19 16:16 | Report Abuse

Anybody know what happen?

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:29 | Report Abuse

life is difficult... cant predict wat's wrong with this steady counter... only HSCB know themselves.

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:31 | Report Abuse

Who knows at all sudden the boss declares for privatisation... what's a wild guess!!

Posted by NewbieForever > 2015-01-19 16:39 | Report Abuse

Hi pathfinder can you explain more on your calculation above please?

Posted by wolf1 > 2015-01-19 16:41 | Report Abuse

damn....drop so much from 4.60 in a week...gone

Posted by Joel > 2015-01-19 16:43 | Report Abuse

我还没买，会不会QR 差呢？

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 16:44 | Report Abuse

Newbie. Its just a rough estimate. There are 2.2 billion shares issued. Of this the owner owns about 72 to 75%. The highest price for HSCB was RM4.99 and that was achieved late November. Hence owner owns 2.2 billion x 70% = 1.54 billion shares. Each share has lost RM4.99 - 3.75 = RM1.24 each. This now works out to RM1.9 billion lost. But as someone said it. He can afford it. We can't, even for our small sums.

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:57 | Report Abuse

I clearly cant understand why the price drop tremendously and the buyback mechanism is not activated. HSCB is like active to curb the price drop. why not? foreign fund dumping? or the boss himself?
there is no clear indication on this counter now. no bad news and yet the price already plummeting like this..

Posted by kimkowlee > 2015-01-19 16:58 | Report Abuse

Dun know what happen? Company problem? Owner problem?

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 16:59 | Report Abuse

very soon... RM3.50 coming I guess.... .

Posted by lepaklangkawi > 2015-01-19 17:02 | Report Abuse

only natural. after big Goreng. must come pull-back. natural motions guys. c u @ 3.00 ringgits

Posted by kimkowlee > 2015-01-19 17:03 | Report Abuse

China drop, HSBC drop. Any relationship?

Posted by 4u2c > 2015-01-19 17:03 | Report Abuse

I read all yr postings but im not sure why d price dropped ? What changed ?

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 17:16 | Report Abuse

3.75 is a support. But I doubt it will hold tomorrow.

Posted by seanchin > 2015-01-19 17:25 | Report Abuse

I bought this counter at 1.75 on 9-May-13 (CAGR: 67.04% p.a.). This company holds 4% treasury shares right now. I recalled that bulk buy back and bulk sell out were carried out along the months. These series of buy-sell trades generated bulk cash for HapSeng by trading its own shares in the market. It is time to study the company's cash position before making any decision

Posted by pathfinder > 2015-01-19 17:31 | Report Abuse

Do take a look at it and tell us what you find. Any logical reason would be welcomed.

Posted by MATB > 2015-01-19 18:59 | Report Abuse

Hapseng Insurance , Li Shin Hong continuos buy sell (and sell buy) HS share in open market to lift its price has become rountine practice (besides share buy back). If not mistaken, LSH eat up till 4.98, while HSI is the one who sold for LSH to eat at that day. (More precise data, pls check bursa announcement, i wrote merely based on my memory. RM 5.00 off market trade, is LSH transferred to HSI. After the off market trade, company has become very inactive to interfere on HS share price liao. 31/12 closed at 4.68, market cap surpass RM 10B. Price start fall since 2015. Maybe artificial intervention on its price temporary stopped.

Posted by MATB > 2015-01-19 19:05 | Report Abuse

2013,2014, one off gain significantly lift HS eps. Its recurring eps is very tiny compared total eps. But HS one off gain seems continuosly recurring :P

Posted by MATB > 2015-01-19 19:07 | Report Abuse

Can anyone pls advice on the rationale behind hapseng sister company buy sell, and then sell back activity? If we can decode this activity, maybe we can decode the continuos up and continuos fall of HS share price.
Thks in advance

Posted by MATB > 2015-01-19 19:10 | Report Abuse

# buy sell and sell buy activity

Posted by Ven Felix > 2015-01-19 19:45 | Report Abuse

Hap Seng is a well managed entity; ask yourself which sector has contributed to its increment to its share price..r they still persistent as 2 years back ? Then, u will find the answere. But, this Hs is are really good counter to monitor closely. That your bid..

Posted by Vaylens Chong > 2015-01-19 20:08 | Report Abuse

People Panic, Me Calling.

Posted by derekdan > 2015-01-19 21:36 | Report Abuse

Hapseng in the limelight for the wrong reason, Share Buy Back is the only hope to halt the share price from falling, Unfortunately there's no buy back in sight.

Posted by Joel > 2015-01-19 21:54 | Report Abuse

明天看来还会更加低。

Posted by simon_nick > 2015-01-19 22:07 | Report Abuse

Wah free flow lao sai :S

Posted by timss > 2015-01-19 23:04 | Report Abuse

Still no sign of it.. someone is manipulating the price. Thought the price will hover at 4.00 but the huge dip is really unexpected. Tomorrow could be the coming six drops in row since last Monday trade..unpredictable...... no news no signs and no ideas..sigh..

Posted by kimkowlee > 2015-01-19 23:14 | Report Abuse

Any news from , Owner datuk Lau k c?

Posted by 4u2c > 2015-01-19 23:39 | Report Abuse

maybe someone is cashing out......thru out the years, gains has bn almost 300 pct for sme of us

Posted by fahmi101 > 2015-01-20 00:22 | Report Abuse

I'm not believe when my friend show me his entry price at 3.86 on 2 december ago. i hope my TP buy coming soon :)

Posted by Kau Kun Cui > 2015-01-20 00:57 | Report Abuse

其實買貴了就當拿股息放fD,你們覺得會跌到多少？

Posted by Kino Kow > 2015-01-20 08:46 | Report Abuse

Less than 3.5rm

Posted by simon_nick > 2015-01-20 09:25 | Report Abuse

Lao sai continues..... :(

Posted by Chrysler Pong > 2015-01-20 09:29 | Report Abuse

no news also lao sai like hell..what happend?