If u bought 5k insas at 0.905 ytd n sold at 0.86 today, yr loss is 0.045-0.01 dividend =0.035 x5k shares=RM175.in return u will get 1k OR which is certainly above rm0.30 upon listing on next wed.......sure make money
say i bought 5000 insas ytd,today entitled of 1000 free warrant and will be allowed to trade on 28th Jan onwards? if im still holding the free warrant, i got to purchase rps total of rm1k? can any1 help, newbies here.
Quit now!!! Insas mother will drop heavily af the corporate exercise... 1st target will hit below 0.77... i oledi advise early... 4% per annum is not attractive... the best time to collect is af the exercise...
Like I say if you expect it to be rm2 before too long and then rm3 and maybe more later who cares if you pay 70 sen or 90 sen or even 1.2 for it? Only gamblers looking to flip care. Me I'm in it for the long haul. I won't sell for less than 2 + and maybe not even then depending on nta and earnings at the time.
Insas-WA worth 30cents at least? Im willing to offload at 25cents... LOL
Actually I dont know how some of you are doing your calculation. For me, its quite simple.
Insas now at RM0.85
If you think Insas will fly to RM1.20, then...
If you buy Insas, you earn 35cents/share
If you buy RPS, and gets two warrants for free (assuming RPS didnt drop, and warrant premium is 0%), you earn 40cents.
You actually earn the same amount (41% for Insas vs 40% for buying RPS). Of course if you can keep the RPS, there will be extra 4cents every year.
I personally think RPS price will only go down, not up since Insas said its only worth RM1 when you redeem it 5 years later. Secondly, not everyone buy shares to earn the measly 4% interest. You can get them from any banks nowadays, why bother with share? Of course when it goes down, maybe gweilo can scoop as much as he wants since he want the 6-7% yeild that he yearn so much for.
If you think Insas will do well, then scoop the warrants. Warrants will give the best return if it really turns out you are right, just like the case with Inari-WA.
If I m in Dato's position I won't beg u ppl to subscribe lar since most of u r so kuai lan. I'll team up with some taiko to wage all the OR & get all the free warrants. Then I'll do something to jack up share price. All premium bearing warrants then turns deep into money. The further they jack up share price gearing effect will magnify warrants gain. Dato & his team will be very haut.
You're right. This is why I consider selling all my mother and invest all the proceeds in the warrant. Can make 10x the profit with same capital.Can't really lose either unless the mother stay below rm1 for 5 years which is very unlikely. Surely somebody push it up to make money and I'll be along for the ride.
Andre Kua. How much would u think RPS will be traded? 90sen? Option 1 Subscribe $1 for RPS & get 2 free warrants. Buy another RPS @ 90sen to ex the 2nd warrant. Total cost is $1.9 Option 2 Don't subscribe. Sell the OR @ 20sen. Buy 2 RPS @ 90sen each & buy 2 warrants. Total cost = -0.2 + 2*0.9 + 2*warrant price. Equate both options, 1.9 = -0.2 + 2*(0.9 + warrant price) Tats mean u expect to buy warrant @ 15sen?
Another thing is Insas isn't a hot stock. Market might not give too much premium to Wa. So gweilo's high expectation might not be realistic. Especially warrant is way out of money now. Mother share has to move a distance before warrant starts moving. In term of risk I think it is minimal. Downside is too limited.
warrant still got a long period of time.. n trust me.. when mother share so low.. warrant with long expiring period.. its really a good buy compared to mother share.. gweilo is no stupid fool.. maybe the operator brought it down more than anyone could have expected.. even i din expect it to drop this that low.. but recovery is ur decision.. hang in there gweilo.. when the up rally comes.. all will regret not listening to u..
gweilo could be right oso. Assuming mother share back to 90sen & son is traded at 15sen. Selling 1mom can buy 6son. If mother up 10sen, 10xgain is $1. Divide by 6sons is 16.6sen. Ratio of gain mom : son is 1 : 1.66. With high gearing of 6. Very possible. However, there is exceptional case oso. Look at Bimb-Wa with high gearing. Lausai. Lol.
Insas is portential to break 1.36 .. Because of Inari , ho hup , syf earnings .. Mr thong buy back until 1.06 .. Company buy back until 0.96 . N acquired many shares also .. Nta 1.8 .. PE above 4 only . For mid term .. Really nothing bad with this company . About rps n warrants . I believe it will be adjust the mother shares pricing around 1.20 ..
Ken Lim Insas is portential to break 1.36 .. Because of Inari , ho hup , syf earnings .. Mr thong buy back until 1.06 .. Company buy back until 0.96 . N acquired many shares also .. Nta 1.8 .. PE above 4 only . For mid term .. Really nothing bad with this company . About rps n warrants . I believe it will be adjust the mother shares pricing around 1.20 ..
26/01/2015 11:32
sound like BjCorp... have this and that but just cannot go up.....
Is the Vicent Tan Discount a permanent feature of Insas too??
Hmm .. All listing company also will said their company is good .. But we don't see this .. Look back what related n business insas have .. How to make money with their company .. That's alreDy enough .. I'm sure insas is Undervalue now .. Even now the pricing is 1.36 ..
Tan Sri VT is abang adik bf with Dato Thong... sama-sama toilet keluar punya... hold la...kikiikiki... later 0.55... hold la...buy la further... kiikiki..then Dato share buybak at 0.55...to lower down its cost... Do u still have bullet to buy somemore tht time??? kikikikiki
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Posted by Kitty28 > 2015-01-23 11:55 | Report Abuse
dear oregami, what about those who buy only today at lower price compared to those who bought yesterday?