Posted by Kitty28 > 2015-01-23 11:55 | Report Abuse

dear oregami, what about those who buy only today at lower price compared to those who bought yesterday?

Posted by Jsiegel > 2015-01-23 12:00 | Report Abuse

okinvest, jayc, yesterday closing price is 0.905, today is 0.01 divedent ex-date, so automatic will correction to 0.895~

Posted by imoogi99 > 2015-01-23 12:11 | Report Abuse

Those who bought yesterday get the 1sen div and the rights entitlement. Those who buy today get nothing.

Posted by Sean > 2015-01-23 12:24 | Report Abuse

those holding after ex get div and OR, buy today geh wait paper gain... good luck guys

Posted by murali > 2015-01-23 13:12 | Report Abuse

If u bought 5k insas at 0.905 ytd n sold at 0.86 today, yr loss is 0.045-0.01 dividend =0.035 x5k shares=RM175.in return u will get 1k OR which is certainly above rm0.30 upon listing on next wed.......sure make money

Posted by ling12 > 2015-01-23 14:05 | Report Abuse

say i bought 5000 insas ytd,today entitled of 1000 free warrant and will be allowed to trade on 28th Jan onwards? if im still holding the free warrant, i got to purchase rps total of rm1k? can any1 help, newbies here.

Posted by cfoong > 2015-01-23 14:51 | Report Abuse

Quit now!!! Insas mother will drop heavily af the corporate exercise... 1st target will hit below 0.77... i oledi advise early... 4% per annum is not attractive... the best time to collect is af the exercise...

Posted by ChinKeng Lee > 2015-01-23 15:02 | Report Abuse

maybe ya . quite true . the mother wont up in the meantime .

Posted by cfoong > 2015-01-23 15:17 | Report Abuse

u c so many people commend on this insas forum.. it is something wrong la... cabut... let it cool down first bf collecting...

Posted by ChinKeng Lee > 2015-01-23 15:22 | Report Abuse

but i still remain neutral on this . this stock is quite interesting . i still will stay at here ,and remain holding 50lots .

Posted by kingstocks > 2015-01-23 17:22 | Report Abuse

wait nx week...let it stable

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-23 19:20 | Report Abuse

Like I say if you expect it to be rm2 before too long and then rm3 and maybe more later who cares if you pay 70 sen or 90 sen or even 1.2 for it? Only gamblers looking to flip care. Me I'm in it for the long haul. I won't sell for less than 2 + and maybe not even then depending on nta and earnings at the time.

Posted by Johnnys > 2015-01-23 19:28 | Report Abuse

if Unsas sales some Inari, it share price will limit up for few days.
is totally depend of Big Boss to play.

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-23 19:40 | Report Abuse

Trading of OR only stars on 28th. There are 2 more trading days for Dato to do something to convince ppl to subscribe, but not to sell.

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-23 20:09 | Report Abuse

sell ? never ever even crossed my mind. I like free money too much.

Posted by Johnnys > 2015-01-23 21:01 | Report Abuse

Dato will happy if less people subscribe, so he will press down price again next week.

Posted by Munger > 2015-01-24 06:59 | Report Abuse

Wonder OR got any value at current price..

Posted by Andre Kua > 2015-01-24 08:39 | Report Abuse

Insas-WA worth 30cents at least? Im willing to offload at 25cents... LOL

Actually I dont know how some of you are doing your calculation. For me, its quite simple.

Insas now at RM0.85

If you think Insas will fly to RM1.20, then...

If you buy Insas, you earn 35cents/share

If you buy RPS, and gets two warrants for free (assuming RPS didnt drop, and warrant premium is 0%), you earn 40cents.

You actually earn the same amount (41% for Insas vs 40% for buying RPS). Of course if you can keep the RPS, there will be extra 4cents every year.

I personally think RPS price will only go down, not up since Insas said its only worth RM1 when you redeem it 5 years later. Secondly, not everyone buy shares to earn the measly 4% interest. You can get them from any banks nowadays, why bother with share? Of course when it goes down, maybe gweilo can scoop as much as he wants since he want the 6-7% yeild that he yearn so much for.

If you think Insas will do well, then scoop the warrants. Warrants will give the best return if it really turns out you are right, just like the case with Inari-WA.

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-24 12:11 | Report Abuse

False assumptions lead to false conclusions.

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-24 12:23 | Report Abuse

If I m in Dato's position I won't beg u ppl to subscribe lar since most of u r so kuai lan. I'll team up with some taiko to wage all the OR & get all the free warrants. Then I'll do something to jack up share price. All premium bearing warrants then turns deep into money. The further they jack up share price gearing effect will magnify warrants gain. Dato & his team will be very haut.

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-24 16:19 | Report Abuse

You're right. This is why I consider selling all my mother and invest all the proceeds in the warrant. Can make 10x the profit with same capital.Can't really lose either unless the mother stay below rm1 for 5 years which is very unlikely. Surely somebody push it up to make money and I'll be along for the ride.

Posted by Bs1688 > 2015-01-24 16:59 | Report Abuse

You are very smart gweilo , thumbs up !

Posted by StockKeeper > 2015-01-24 20:46 | Report Abuse

I only hope this company after 5 year still here and still at 1.20 onward

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-24 20:50 | Report Abuse

Andre Kua. How much would u think RPS will be traded? 90sen?
Option 1
Subscribe $1 for RPS & get 2 free warrants. Buy another RPS @ 90sen to ex the 2nd warrant. Total cost is $1.9
Option 2
Don't subscribe. Sell the OR @ 20sen. Buy 2 RPS @ 90sen each & buy 2 warrants.
Total cost = -0.2 + 2*0.9 + 2*warrant price.
Equate both options, 1.9 = -0.2 + 2*(0.9 + warrant price)
Tats mean u expect to buy warrant @ 15sen?

Posted by born2bking > 2015-01-24 22:42 | Report Abuse

so sell all mother n buy all warrants?

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-25 16:23 | Report Abuse

That's one strategy, yes. It has more risk but also more potential for gain. Only you know your risk tolerance.

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-25 17:29 | Report Abuse

Another thing is Insas isn't a hot stock. Market might not give too much premium to Wa. So gweilo's high expectation might not be realistic. Especially warrant is way out of money now. Mother share has to move a distance before warrant starts moving. In term of risk I think it is minimal. Downside is too limited.

Posted by imoogi99 > 2015-01-25 18:33 | Report Abuse

5 yrs warrant definitely will be way out of money. Premium will be around 30% to 50%. Good to buy when it is not hot.

Posted by born2bking > 2015-01-25 23:31 | Report Abuse

warrant still got a long period of time.. n trust me.. when mother share so low.. warrant with long expiring period.. its really a good buy compared to mother share.. gweilo is no stupid fool.. maybe the operator brought it down more than anyone could have expected.. even i din expect it to drop this that low.. but recovery is ur decision.. hang in there gweilo.. when the up rally comes.. all will regret not listening to u..

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-26 04:40 | Report Abuse

gweilo could be right oso. Assuming mother share back to 90sen & son is traded at 15sen. Selling 1mom can buy 6son. If mother up 10sen, 10xgain is $1. Divide by 6sons is 16.6sen. Ratio of gain mom : son is 1 : 1.66. With high gearing of 6. Very possible. However, there is exceptional case oso. Look at Bimb-Wa with high gearing. Lausai. Lol.

Posted by GweiKi > 2015-01-26 09:14 | Report Abuse

The meaning of Gweiki is PrayUp, whereby "Gwei is Pray" and "Ki is Up"

Posted by hamsubchai > 2015-01-26 09:15 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-26 11:23 | Report Abuse

Price going lower and lower...

Is the Vicent Tan Discount a permanent feature of Insas??

Posted by Ken Lim > 2015-01-26 11:32 | Report Abuse

Insas is portential to break 1.36 .. Because of Inari , ho hup , syf earnings .. Mr thong buy back until 1.06 .. Company buy back until 0.96 . N acquired many shares also .. Nta 1.8 .. PE above 4 only . For mid term .. Really nothing bad with this company . About rps n warrants . I believe it will be adjust the mother shares pricing around 1.20 ..

Posted by Sean > 2015-01-26 11:35 | Report Abuse

so interested to add more once see many leaving :P

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-26 11:43 | Report Abuse

Ken Lim Insas is portential to break 1.36 .. Because of Inari , ho hup , syf earnings .. Mr thong buy back until 1.06 .. Company buy back until 0.96 . N acquired many shares also .. Nta 1.8 .. PE above 4 only . For mid term .. Really nothing bad with this company . About rps n warrants . I believe it will be adjust the mother shares pricing around 1.20 ..

26/01/2015 11:32



sound like BjCorp... have this and that but just cannot go up.....

Is the Vicent Tan Discount a permanent feature of Insas too??

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-26 11:47 | Report Abuse

GweiLo is Cantonese. Means foreign devil.

Posted by Johnnys > 2015-01-26 12:03 | Report Abuse

Any one here can sell it down to 0.83 please?

Posted by Ken Lim > 2015-01-26 12:41 | Report Abuse

Hmm .. All listing company also will said their company is good .. But we don't see this .. Look back what related n business insas have .. How to make money with their company .. That's alreDy enough .. I'm sure insas is Undervalue now .. Even now the pricing is 1.36 ..

Posted by Abudance > 2015-01-26 13:01 | Report Abuse

Sure sell down again cos of rights issue. Insas is broker co.

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-26 14:26 | Report Abuse

Ya.... the RPS rights issue is a big issue indeed

Posted by hamsubchai > 2015-01-26 15:05 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Lollipot Anison > 2015-01-26 15:45 | Report Abuse

Insas is really a weird counter. Not easy to earn from this counter.

Posted by ganasai > 2015-01-26 15:49 | Report Abuse

haha another stock that have price movement like bjcorp. Good see but not good eat. High NTA, got this got that one, but price drop like hell.

Posted by Lollipot Anison > 2015-01-26 15:50 | Report Abuse

price has been stagnant for 1 year when inari has already triple folded.

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-26 15:58 | Report Abuse

a "good counter" doing a falling knife....

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-26 16:10 | Report Abuse

Privatise it.

Posted by leno > 2015-01-26 16:34 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by cfoong > 2015-01-26 16:47 | Report Abuse

kikikikikiki... may be soon falling below 0.77 as i said bf... hold on your breathe... kikikikikiki

Posted by cfoong > 2015-01-26 16:50 | Report Abuse

Tan Sri VT is abang adik bf with Dato Thong... sama-sama toilet keluar punya... hold la...kikiikiki... later 0.55... hold la...buy la further... kiikiki..then Dato share buybak at 0.55...to lower down its cost... Do u still have bullet to buy somemore tht time??? kikikikiki