Posted by oregami > 2015-01-29 12:23 | Report Abuse

Sell mon buy PR if bullish about Insas
Sell PR to reduce losses if bearish about Insas
Sell everythging to cut loss if Insas is hopeless
Do nothing & go through the complete exercise is can't foresee the future

Posted by mililia > 2015-01-29 12:34 | Report Abuse

murali: I don't have to create fear. I only offer my opinion. I say if you are original shareholders who inherited the rights, subscribe! But if you can get more by selling your rights, then do it! And I have done it!

Why? RPS will not worth RM1.00 period!
Warrants at current price is worth RM0.10 period.

That said, if you have longer term view, of course warrants will worth more cause it has time value. But don't BUY rights at current price because your investment is your rights price + subscription price. And if you do that, you will take longer to reap the benefit.

I stand by my call. Up to you!

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 13:20 | Report Abuse

Warrant wouldn't trade at 0.10 lab.....as long as mother maintain at this level.....I standby my call too

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-29 13:22 | Report Abuse

I buy all I can get my hands on.

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-29 13:23 | Report Abuse

Western bankers are dropping dead !

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/01/who_is_killing_the_great_bankers_of_europe.html

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 13:27 | Report Abuse

Anyway I like what oregami said.....

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 13:29 | Report Abuse

If u think insas is hopeless just sell everything...if u are bullish then buying PR now could give you good return.....period.

Posted by Andre Kua > 2015-01-29 14:19 | Report Abuse

Hmm... if you buy PR shares now, you would be paying RM1 + 0.20 for 1 RPS with 2 free warrants?

Posted by lepaklangkawi > 2015-01-29 14:38 | Report Abuse

slumping.... o noessss.

Posted by cfoong > 2015-01-29 14:42 | Report Abuse

As i said... it will bak to 0.77 and af the right... head bak to 0.55..(the initial price bf it went up!!!)... long term??? good dividen??? or jus hope for capital gain??? tht time Inari is inari!!! Insas is Insas!!!... not related at all... Insas is jus holding company shj...

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-29 14:56 | Report Abuse

It will be 2.55 long before .55 that is for sure !

Posted by gweilo > 2015-01-29 14:57 | Report Abuse

its down because people doin what i do namely sell mother to buy pr and warrants. later it will have a spectacular resurrection and the warrants will zoom zoom zoom !

Posted by Kitty28 > 2015-01-29 15:01 | Report Abuse

dear gweilo, so it's now the golden time to accumulate more mother share?

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:07 | Report Abuse

For those who want to believe

Seeing is believing, right...??

And, you have seen with your own eyes the PR at a high of 0.305 yesterday morning.... that showed you it is possible that the warrant will be trading at at least 0.50 later....


Sell mother sell mother and buy the PR.. sell mother.. sell mother and buy the PR..

Posted by oregami > 2015-01-29 15:11 | Report Abuse

gambling...

Posted by beso > 2015-01-29 15:14 | Report Abuse

seller is winner again

Posted by beso > 2015-01-29 15:14 | Report Abuse

seller is winner again

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:14 | Report Abuse

For those who want to believe

Seeing is believing, right...??

And, you have seen with your own eyes the PR at a high of 0.305 yesterday morning.... that showed you it is possible that the warrant will be trading at at least 0.50 later....


Sell mother sell mother and buy the PR.. sell mother.. sell mother and buy the PR..

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:39 | Report Abuse

For those who want to believe

For those who want to believe

As much as you want to believe.... it is about time for you to wake up!!!

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:41 | Report Abuse

Everything hinges on the mother.... even if you have a fixed premium for the warrant... the warrant can only move up when the mother is up

Only in an upsidedown world will the mother follow the warrant instead

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:44 | Report Abuse

mother 0.79.... OR at 0.205... you would need a premium of more than 50% to just breakeven


50% to just breakeven... so how much profit do you think you can make from the warrant if mother stays this way or even go down????

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:45 | Report Abuse

Everything hinges on the mother.... it may be taking a roundabout now, but sooner or later the mother must go up... to restore confidence.. to restore confidence and heal wound

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:49 | Report Abuse

Pray hard for the mother to go up........ for all those who have bought the OR.... pray hard for the mother to go up........

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2015-01-29 15:53 | Report Abuse

the value of 30% inari they holding is higher than their whole company value hahaha

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 15:54 | Report Abuse

Do you really think investors who have no Insas must buy your Insas warrant???


Comparatively, relatively.... vis a vis other better counters... your Insas warrant could be just like shit

Posted by Koay Yi Chuan > 2015-01-29 16:03 | Report Abuse

Someone obviously never heard of time value, intrinsic value of warrant pricing.

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:04 | Report Abuse

counting on this.....................

Now mother drops 1% PR drops 10%

Later when mother goes up 1% PR will go up 10%... the warrant too...

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:06 | Report Abuse

what do you think the premium will be before you breakeven??

while possible don't you think the uncertainty is not worth it???

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:11 | Report Abuse

you see the OR is moving now because the mother is moving.... but only upto a point because the OR is too far ahead...

mother must go up more

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:11 | Report Abuse

Anyway I love the joke that Wa worths RM0.10.....

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:16 | Report Abuse

In coming days Insas would very likely to be played among all those people who are stuck with it..... and some who see value when Insas price is low .... but mostly among all those people who are stuck with it..... and trying hard to average down

Posted by Koay Yi Chuan > 2015-01-29 16:23 | Report Abuse

Learn about warrant pricing. http://www.hoadley.net/options/optiongraphs.aspx?divs=Y.
Check in Bloomberg, volatility: 40%. Make risk free rate at 4%, dividend at 0.01 per year. Duration 5 years. Warrant price when mother price is RM1.00 is RM0.26. When mother is RM1, warrant price is 40 sen. Means, the time value is 40 sen. Intrinsic value starts to kick in when mother is above RM1.00.

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:24 | Report Abuse

when mother is above RM1.00....

Posted by Koay Yi Chuan > 2015-01-29 16:25 | Report Abuse

oh. Sorry, mother price at current price, warrant at 26 sen.

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:26 | Report Abuse

I think the reason we have this kind of analysis that PR only worths RM0.10 as Wa will only worths RM0.10 is that he oredi sold his PR at RM0.20+ and is waiting to buy back lower.....So he try to create fear...can ignore him

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:26 | Report Abuse

and.... when there are no other warrants outside that are better than your one here

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:27 | Report Abuse

and.... I think you have bought and worry now

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:30 | Report Abuse

Different valuation...I love cheap stuff...ya...i am very worried that my Insas-WB will trade at RM0.10...

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:32 | Report Abuse

Insas is a cheap proxy to Inari...then Insas-WB is a cheap proxy to Insas mother....

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:33 | Report Abuse

Ya.... Inari OR is expensive..... better but at 2.++... can't afford it than stick to your Insas RP lo... less good but cheap ler

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:34 | Report Abuse

U rich u buy Inari=OR...i no rich i buy Insas-PR

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:35 | Report Abuse

Can make or cannot make will only be known later...

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:37 | Report Abuse

Everything hinges on the mother.... it may be taking a roundabout now, but sooner or later the mother must go up... to restore confidence.. to restore confidence and heal wound

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:39 | Report Abuse

Anyway only those make money (or not losing money) will laugh at the end....you have read all kind of comments here...good or bad...u make your own call....good luck.....

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:43 | Report Abuse

ya only time can tell.....

and hopefully M&A securities is not hit by massive loan loss when the market KLCI crashed HaHa

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:52 | Report Abuse

Kok Khee has given his undertaking to subscribe for 48.66 % excess RPS (if you dont want to subscribe...), on top of his current entitlement of 23.45%....if KLCI crash or the end of the world comes, Kok Khee will sink with my RM12,300 contributions.....

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:53 | Report Abuse

Shit...I started to get worried with my RM12,300 investment in 10,000 RPS and 20,000 WB....

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:56 | Report Abuse

well...... as long as the premium is more than 50% and if you have not bought the OR too early...

or the mother stated going up... no worry la

Posted by r°Moi > 2015-01-29 16:57 | Report Abuse

chill.....................

Posted by murali > 2015-01-29 16:57 | Report Abuse

Another reason to worry is that Kok Khee may want to con your RM5K or RM10K investment in Insas...besides market crash and doom day coming....kindly feel free to add into the list of your worries..