cfoong People is too trust on NTA or PE... but when Ben Graham comes out this theory... it was more for manufacturing bisnes bf 1960an... but as many people use these...to judge...then it is a big hussle.... alamak... 30/01/2015 11:49
The investment thesis on Insas is partly base on Graham's NNWC. The more interesting part is it shows vast improment in earning recently. From EPS 9sen to 24sen. Tats the most interesting part. I believe it'll back to $1 level once all the uncertainty is over.
It failed to bounce back after dropped with board market because ppl refuse to get back in. Sentiment is bad & no one wan to fork out money for the multi proposal. Those trapped r desperate to find an easy way out. They dump mother share & buy PR. Tats way it drop further though alr very low. Everything will back to normal soon.
Insas reports lower EPS 3.57 as comparing to EPS 8.87 in the recent 1st qtr Nov 2014..except manufacturing (inari), the rest of the business profit is either declined or loss... alamak.. interesting??? worrying instead???
I got no intention to buy at this price bf right and also have to wait until long for collecting back at low but definitely hav to wait long until the corporate exercise effect cooling off... therefore, my intention is jus my view on this as per past experience....
May I know when the insas Pr covert to Pa what is the actual price list in bursa ? From $ 1 at start . N the warrant price will adjust the mother share once list in bursa ?
sorry, may i know any idea on PR share? what different compare to OR? is it worth? what will the listing price for PR and the WR when it listed? i mean roughly a what price
Pr to Pa, cant convert! When expired u get bak yr 1k... Pr expect list at 1.00 and warrant is unknown but base on the white form trading at 220.. possibly W will list around this.. Yes..parents prices will drop as per listed prices of warrant.
PR as trade in bursa now is white form or right.. u hav to top up additional 1k on top of 220 when u submit to register office.. the actual rps and warrant will list af Mar.
I want to ask. I already received the offer letter. I'm only eligible for 400 shares. If I want to subscribe to another extra 600 shares, do I need to prepare 2 cashier order of RM400 and RM600 in case I can't get the excess?
So any idea? Is it worth to subscribe the PR based on the company performance since preference share featured fixed dividend priority b4 ordinary shareholder? Is the dividend fix will be announce prior in the event if the company earn profit???
I would rather collect both mother and warrant af the completion of the exercises.. but do considering also wht insas P&L is further decline or not... PR? I do not interest on it at all due to low interest rate at 4% and no capital gain at all!!! I would rather invest in other counters which can provide both good dividen and good potential gains in capital instead of its PR. But different person may have different view on this... but af listerning all the ideas, the decision is still on yr hand!.... Base on the PR white form initial listed prices of 0.22... the warrant will be probably listed around 0.2/0.22...but whether the mother will be adjusted at the same scale?? nobody can confirm tht.. but base on past experience, this is the case.. and the worst case shall be 0.22 down.. but It is better play a bit safer instead of regretting later on...
Those who stucked at rm1+ on mother share will b very susah....wanna dig out more money to buy RPS?but may die hard if insas drops lower then....what if wa only traded at 0.10 n RPS trade at mother price level??
My sincere advice is to buy more PR n subscribe it.i think kok khee will push up mother price very soon n u may sell all yr mother n focus on the coming wa in mac...if wa opens at 0.10-0.20,just buy in....
Assuming RPS is traded @ 95sen (5% discount) & warrant is traded @ xsen.
Opt1 sell PR @ 21sen. Buy 2 RPS & 2 warrants from open market Cost = -0.21 + 2*(0.95+x)
Opt2 stick to the whole exercise. Subscribe RPS & buy 1 RPS from open market Cost = 1+0.95 = 1.95
Equate both opt x = 13sen. I think the above is worst case scenario. Stick to opt2 downside is taken care of. Choose opt1 may suffer opportunity loss if things turn good.
I hv insas shares n just received form to buy rights. Insas closed at 80.5 sen yesterday. It doesn't make sense to buy the rights at 1 ringgit, no? Can someone pls help/advise, thanks
While cheapskate is your 1st criteria to choose a stock... not everyone is like you ler
r°Moi has thousands of pairs of underwear and none of them is cheap... and they are all stored in an air conditioned room... quite a sight.. will turn any man weak on the knees.. but you can only imagine la
I care abt u instead....seeing u post the same rubbish here again n again....anyway u r not the only weirdo here....u r not alone....ok?cheers...hope u could feel some warm....
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Ok... this is more like it..... should aim for laughing all the way to the bank le..... not just sleep well eat well with my 12300....