if you refer to bursamarket.com, lately there are multiple sessions of conversions of loan stocks (ICULS) into ordinary share at the exercise price of RM0.20, which are most probably done by insiders or substantial shareholders. I suppose this is a very strong indication that the share price can easily stay above RM0.20 sooner or later.
market sentiment are also getting better now, seems like less and less people are willing to sell at price as low as RM0.160
loan stock conversion is 20 sen? thought is 5 loan stock to exchange for 1? if insiders want to buy, they can just buy directly from the market at 16 sen?
RM1 loan stock can be converted into 5 ordinary shares, which is also equal to Rm0.20 per ordinary share.
yes, I suppose they can buy directly from the market at 16 sen, but they chose not to? why?
from what I speculate, it is not that they do not want to buy from the market, in fact, they are trying to buy from the market, but the volume is low, not many sellers at this price, not much they can accumulate. But still they are not trying to offer better price or to push up the price at this point, they simply intentionally keep the price at current level and try to accumulate as much as they can while they still can.
that is just my speculation anyway, please correct me if you think I am wrong or have other more reasonable speculation of what is happening now
however, there is 1 thing that I cannot understand with the conversion of ICULS into ordinary share now, is that by keeping the iculs, holders can actually get 3% interest annually. So realistically, holders should not convert their iculs into ordinary share before it is close to expire date, unless there is dividend announced for the ordinary shares.
isn't converting the iculs to ordinary shares equal to giving up of the 3% annual interest?
again I am still a new learner, please correct me where I am wrong, thank you
I also quite confuse what the fuck want conversation at 20sen The handsome asiapac only 15sen . Many shareholders happy to sell you at 15sen This asiapac can not up one no matter nta now is 1 ringgit or No matter thier results is the best among all property counters Asiapac just forgot from people People only know uems mahsing ecow spsetia matrix sunway. Mrcb. Cres . Wct. Bjland. Ytl.ytlland . Klcc. Tambun. Huayang . Gamuda . Hapseng So what the hell is asiapac sorry even me also never heard it
amazing, still no rich outsider with huge modal trying to take over IMAGO at this price? seems like just 1 people playing with the queue keeping it at 0.145 to 0.160 range
Sincerestock, looks like some ppl playing this counter, they hungry to sell at 15.5. They boost up the volume at 15.5, once buyers get in then they throw, omg...I trapped at 0.16 last mth, haizzzzzzzzz
692718720, where you get the details? How is the court case outcome? I'm worry insider taking profit before the company make announcement on court case.
Hi guys this counter you cannot compliment one. Whenever got volume up up up then people say wa undervalued nta 1 ringgit profit is the super Then asiapac heard we compliment him He will down back to 15sen Already 3 times recently. This counter is hard rock .
can see that someone is collecting, manipulating the price at 0.145-0.16 level. for the price to go up, it need more than 1 person or 3rd party (who are cash rich) compete to collect, only then they can't always keep the price at such low level to collect.
what I don't understand is there is still no cash rich 3rd party come to collect this share to become significant shareholders, considering this company market capitalization is relatively low compare to what it worth. market capital is just 160m at this price, which there are many persons in Sabah / Malaysia or even foreigners are rich enough to afford taking over the whole company. The weird thing is, none (or just 1) of these rich people are interested to invest in this company. just come to sabah kk to take a look at imago shopping mall, you will agree it worth a lot more than 160m
Well you might say that the property sector is not welcoming enough, if you compare with other property stocks which are stagnant or going downhill . Price of property has been bullish for the past few years ago, creating an oversupply of property developments. Might just stick back to technical indications for the time being.
Everyday playing 0.15 sell 0.155-0.160. When ppl throw 0.155 buyer cancelled. Why this good company market don't want to push up the price, keep playing at 0.15-0.155????
Be patient and you will be rewarded. Although my target price is between 17cents. But if you're using Volume as your indicator, try recording it daily so you would know how much player there is. For me I personally think that the directors are collecting it. Once selling is reduced, you will see a big jump for this stock.
ya lor, please do not said director is colleting/buying when there is no announcement on Bursa about insider buying. that is misleading to the folks here
i realised stocks that has preference share/loan stock (e.g YTL-LA, Amcorp-PA, ASB) usually don't perform well because all cash flow go to service the loan stock interest. is AsianPac is making money, why arent they paying dividend? debt too high?
@verbatin1969 that's why you should buy the company's share before they start giving out dividend. and for the reason why they are still not doing so, obviously it is for better cash flow and they are funding for future projects. at NTA of 0.94, once they have converted some of their assets into cash, they can even give out special dividend above it's current price of 0.150 (if they wanted to). buy a company share at discounted price and wait patiently
property sector inconsistent but imago mall operation income has been improving steadily. just this valuable asset alone should make it worth buying the share at this price
PROPOSED ACQUISITION BY BH BUILDERS SDN BHD, A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF ASIAN PAC HOLDINGS BERHAD OF PROPOSED ACQUISITION BY BH BUILDERS SDN BHD, A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF ASIAN PAC HOLDINGS BERHAD OF FIVE (5) PARCELS OF LEASEHOLD LANDS HELD UNDER HS(D) 54784 PT NO. 12813, HS(D) 54785 PT NO. 12814, HS(D) 54786 PT NO. 12815, HS(D) 54787 PT NO. 12816 AND HS(D) 54788 PT NO. 12817 IN MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH PETALING, NEGERI SELANGOR MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 74 ACRES IN TOTAL FROM JIWA MURNI SDN BHD FOR A TOTAL CASH CONSIDERATION OF RM300 MILLION
Buying land for 300m? they should consider paying dividend every year which will surely improve the share price. Stocks that doesn’t pay consistent dividend don’t see good share performance
Right now the cash mainly go to buying land and paying interest to loan stocks owner….
Loan stock at current price of 74 sen is equivalent to getting the mother share at 14.8 sen (74/5)
AsiaPac has not paid out dividend for many years.
In my opinion, it is more worth it to buy the loan stock. You can still receive 3% whilst waiting for the mother share to go up. If you buy the mother share, you do not receive any dividend for many years!!
Theoretically the loan stock will move in tandem with mother share. The downside of getting the loan stock is that the trading volume for this is very low
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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Posted by Li Li > 2018-06-06 22:17 | Report Abuse
Hopefully will increase lor, waiting for so long already