Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-16 19:12 | Report Abuse

Thanks WilliamH..👌

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2024-02-17 02:11 | Report Abuse

@1288, a couple of months ago, I penned this here. At the time, both BAT and HLIND were trading at similar levels at 9.17 or thereabouts. I shared my view then that it's probably better to swap BAT to HLIND, because both pays high dividends, but one shows declining EPS vs the other rising EPS.

Today, BAT is 9.02. HLIND is 9.40.

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To long term BAT lovers.
Today, BAT closes 9.16.
Another stock that closes similarly is HLIND 9.17.

If you are not a trader and you think you'll be holding BAT for "long term" (e.g. several years), you may want to consider partial / full swap.

Over the past 8 years, BAT EPS dropped from 318 sen (2015) down to 68 sen (2023 Est).
Over the same period, HLIND Net Cash grew from 275m (2016) up to 1600+ million (2023 Est).

HLIND pays a generally rising dividend from 29 sen (2015) to 57 sen (2023 Est).
BAT dividends shrunk from 312 sen (2015) down to 67 sen (2023 Est).

Think about the difference.
You don't need to be a Grade A+ trader like MOBA to win.
Buy HLIND when the price is low.
Do nothing and relax.
In a few years time, check up BAT prices again and compare your HLIND holdings.
Odds are good that you'll win with HLIND.

As usual, nothing is certain in investing.
Hence, don't bet more than 5% of your investment portfolio on any 1 idea.

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2024-02-18 08:22 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-19 05:16 | Report Abuse

Hey thanks DividendGuy67 !

I was asking about HL Capital...?

Posted by BradonOoi > 2024-02-19 09:10 | Report Abuse

You should ask at HL Capital's counter, not here...1288Go

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-19 15:12 | Report Abuse

buy,buy,buy...after CNY...BIg BIg Sale....sale sale....offer offer...

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2024-02-21 11:36 | Report Abuse

Cheap gets cheaper..............can wait to buy real cheap for big profit$

Posted by BradonOoi > 2024-02-23 20:19 | Report Abuse

Waiting at RM8 for another averaging price ..

Posted by bachnorton > 2024-02-24 17:09 | Report Abuse

还有一个卖software的大师大力鼓吹这只股。自己还在那边炫耀没几个月收到多少的股息，股价都跌了多少，还在做梦几年后可以回到20，希望他的会员懂得止损。会员会员，你每年的费用都在支撑他的损失，你知道吗？software 烂的不行，还自以为天下无敌，还什么套利大师。

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-26 13:37 | Report Abuse

那些仙家的话如果全信。。会很失望和大亏。。。。谁要做 ：敢死队，冒险家。。人舍我取。。请便股市大门永远开着。。欢迎自杀。

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-26 16:14 | Report Abuse

口讲没用。。。行动最实际。。。最好多买；几年后这只股大起。。。造就一班新 超级 富豪。。。。哈哈哈；祝你好运。

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-26 16:54 | Report Abuse

Ayoh, please 🙏 write post in english too. Thank you all

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-26 17:06 | Report Abuse

不明白不会就学。。。don't understand..learn...

Posted by DividendGuy67 > 2024-02-26 22:41 | Report Abuse

Time is the chief enemy for a sunset stock like this - new lows in the past, new low today, the longer you hold, the more you average down, more new lows in the future. Don't fight the trend.

Posted by Investman1981 > 2024-02-27 12:11 | Report Abuse

BAT share price drop again to RM8.55 now. Really very very bad and make lowest price even worse than MC01

Posted by Investman1981 > 2024-02-27 12:12 | Report Abuse

Sound like something gone wrong and really hopeless

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-27 13:38 | Report Abuse

Long ago is Batman.....n Now is BAD man.....hahaha.....buy buy buy...if you can....

Posted by 5354_ > 2024-02-27 14:19 | Report Abuse

Malaysia’s incidence of illicit cigarettes last year was lowest since 2020
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/702504

Posted by invest8912 > 2024-02-27 16:16 | Report Abuse

If switch to Maybank or HLI like DividendGuy suggested, now already earn money. I suspect the one who always making buy call don't really own BAT. He is here to mislead people.

Posted by Income > 2024-02-27 18:27 | Report Abuse

Must be competition from China cheaper vape. I think that’s it. Or else why drop until mums can not recognise oredi???

Posted by Income > 2024-02-27 18:29 | Report Abuse

China Gloves killing Msia gloves. Now China vape also doing menace here???

Posted by Income > 2024-02-27 18:33 | Report Abuse

https://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Vape.html

Killing Batman???

Posted by Income > 2024-02-27 18:35 | Report Abuse

I pity Batman. Dividendsguy asked you to switch to Maybank, you didn’t want. Now seeing the 🙅

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2024-02-27 18:41 | Report Abuse

Batmobile dah puncture. Runnnnnn

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-27 19:39 | Report Abuse

Hey Invest8912, you may be right on people call a buy buy do not have the stock. Maybe also they may have the stock and biased for it...
We have to be careful....
And DividendGuy has good intentions for everyone...
Invest carefully everyone...

Posted by bachnorton > 2024-02-27 20:30 | Report Abuse

套利大师，你逃离了吗？还是不怕不怕，再跌50%也不怕,因为你是真正的投资大师。 :)

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-27 20:31 | Report Abuse

Hey WilliamH, I am personally scared to buy BAT...
Due to so many uncertainties, I song buy BAT again..
I am happy sold out at 13 2 years ago...
As dividendguy67 says, why buy X falling knife

Posted by 5354_ > 2024-02-28 14:21 | Report Abuse

1288Go BAT is better than Pos. At least BAT still profitable and paying dividend unlike Pos loss QR never ending.

Posted by 5354_ > 2024-02-28 14:22 | Report Abuse

Lower share price=higher dividend yield. Time to add more.

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-28 19:34 | Report Abuse

Yes 5354_...,
You gave your point ☝️...
Great to enjoy dividends. Just I concern how low Mr bat 🦇 will go to..

Posted by 1288Go > 2024-02-29 01:08 | Report Abuse

Enjoy 😊 your dividends WilliamH 👌

Posted by I_like_dividend > 2024-02-29 11:28 | Report Abuse

8.53 I add more. DY 7.39% better than EPF dividend.

Posted by Investman1981 > 2024-02-29 14:12 | Report Abuse

I bought at RM15.30 before MCO 1st and aveage down. Earn dividend but dont enough cover my BIG paper loss

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-29 16:53 | Report Abuse

i help u, u help me...i give u dividend..u give me price....hahaha .double win...

Posted by williamh > 2024-02-29 18:51 | Report Abuse

Heard forced sell by margin call nothing with fundamental good buy again

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-02-29 19:29 | Report Abuse

No fundmanager....is Run Manager n Look Manager.....

Posted by Income > 2024-02-29 19:47 | Report Abuse

Why suddenly dropped big waterfall?
Pretty scary 😦. How is Vape and Cigarettes biz?

Posted by Income > 2024-02-29 19:49 | Report Abuse

How Operator makes money here?

Posted by 5354_ > 2024-03-01 06:14 | Report Abuse

CW goes to 0(very low) they make money?

Posted by Income > 10 hours ago | Report Abuse

How Operator makes money here?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2024-03-01 06:46 | Report Abuse

Falling knife! Falling knife!

Posted by Income > 2024-03-01 09:14 | Report Abuse

TQ for your reply.
You are correct.


Posted by 5354_ > Mar 1, 2024 6:14 AM | Report Abuse
CW goes to 0(very low) they make money?

Posted by Income > 10 hours ago | Report Abuse

How Operator makes money here?

Posted by Donator > 2024-03-01 09:41 | Report Abuse

The company that still profit and willing to give dividend, i dont know u all scare what

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2024-03-01 09:45 | Report Abuse

You sharks not scare lah- can go ahead and show the reversal break out signal. We bilises must have discipline to avoid catching falling knife - as the rule no.1 goes: Not to lose money

Posted by CharlesT > 2024-03-01 10:19 | Report Abuse

Most seems very happy with the good div...and forget the pain of price drops

Luckilhy cut loss early last year....or else will suffer another 10%+ of losses

Posted by rickygiam > 2024-03-01 10:21 | Report Abuse

Where is bottom? Estimate 1 yr arnd 7% div, better than epf. Problem is worry invested amount value keeps droping like no c light yet...😂😂

Posted by Investman1981 > 2024-03-01 10:23 | Report Abuse

Now RM8.19 suspect got issue with SST @8% guess

Posted by Income > 2024-03-01 10:38 | Report Abuse

No eyes 👀 see 😨

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2024-03-01 10:44 | Report Abuse

Nice to watch, nice to hold; once broken into falling knife, small bilises' account will fold

Posted by Change_ > 2024-03-01 11:05 | Report Abuse

Abah pls be next PM. Abah means father who help people unlike PM-X who make people suffer when share drop.

Posted by Loh Kok Wai W > 2024-03-01 11:12 | Report Abuse

Long ago is... Blue CHip...n NOW is.......Potato Cheap...hahaha...come,come.come...Hero....buy more profit more....like Jackpot........