Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:09 | Report Abuse

and for sxckperformer again (on dividend of evergreen):

n the latest AGM, evergreen management has announced at least 40% dividend payout ratio (vs net profit) starting this year.

They were not paying much dividend in the past as they required the money for capex for expansion. starting 2017, their expansion is done and they can free up more cash for dividend.
if 2016 EPS is around 9sen, 40% would be 3.6sen. that is about 3.7% dividend yield (not bad).

this dividend will increase as they are improving EPS in 2017-2018. So you will get even higher dividend yield if you invest at current price

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 15:10 | Report Abuse

The fact that I revealed everything on both HEVEA and EVERGREEN and it is quite obvious HEVEA has an edge over that one company with TWO HUNDRED OVER MILLIONS of borrowing debts is clearly shown. Why the denials? I've included references to back-up everything I said about both companies. What else excuses u are going to use next? *Really scratching head lol

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:10 | Report Abuse

why u keep talking about the past of evergreen as they used more money for expansion?
Look into future when they free up more cash for dividend..
they already approved the at least 40% dividend payout ratio in AGM.. can't see it?

See, u r really trying to mislead ppl - confirmed

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:12 | Report Abuse

haha... this sxckperformer keeps picking bones on the debt alone (which is at healthy level)...
but ignore the fact that the company is growing and will turn into new chapter of life starting 2017...

A company with manageable debt 0.075x net debt of its shareholder's equity is not healthy?
come on, pls don't mislead the investors anymore, we are not stupid ok?

Airasia has more debt than its equity but as long as the cashflow is healthy, we don't see a problem

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:12 | Report Abuse

sxckperformer claims himself he is the "well-informed" investor on Evergreen.. besides the twisted "fact" he showed here, what else he had shown? compared to others who share more useful info & email, he is just a joker trying to sabotage evergreen price for his own benefit.. too obvious la..

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:13 | Report Abuse

sxckperformer, u r aiming at Evergreen at lower price right? haha.. caught red-handed.. else why so "noble"? ur friend bullorbear123 said mah... "why so noble and free" if not for own agenda

Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 15:15 | Report Abuse

The fact that I revealed everything on both HEVEA and EVERGREEN and it is quite obvious HEVEA has an edge over that one company with TWO HUNDRED OVER MILLIONS of borrowing debts is clearly shown. Why the denials? I've included references to back-up everything I said about both companies. What else excuses u are going to use next? *Really scratching head lol

RAIDER SAY THIS IS THE ANSWER MAH;
Correct loh...nett debts rm 75m against evergreen shareholder funds rm 1 billion....where got mountain leh ??

In fact Evergreen is one of the lowest geared among more than Rm 1 billion shareholder fund furniture & timber company loh...!!

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 15:16 | Report Abuse

Dolly_chai, ur excuses for Evergreen not paying dividends is hard to digest. What about the year of 2013, 2014 and 2015? Now latest 2016 only paid out RM 0.01? Years of capital spending on what? Those 3 years no dividends and now amassed RM 215,585,000 of debts? Plz check carefully most furniture makers listed on KLSE already in net cash position.

Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 15:17 | Report Abuse

TELL RAIDER WHICH TIMBER AND FURNITURE COMPANY WITH SHAREHOLDER FUNDS OF BILLION....HAS LOW NETT BORROWING LESSER THAN EVERGREEN ??

THE ANSWER IS NONE LOH.....!!

Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 15:19 | Report Abuse

olly_chai, ur excuses for Evergreen not paying dividends is hard to digest. What about the year of 2013, 2014 and 2015? Now latest 2016 only paid out RM 0.01? Years of capital spending on what? Those 3 years no dividends and now amassed RM 215,585,000 of debts? Plz check carefully most furniture makers listed on KLSE already in net cash position

IF LIKE THAT RAIDER CAN ASK WHAT ABOUT HEVEA BANKRUPT YEARS IN 2009 TO 2010 LEH ?

Posted by gogogogo > 2016-12-20 15:25 | Report Abuse

wah lots of things happening here...gogogo

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:31 | Report Abuse

in terms of your misleading info on debt of evergreen, i will show you proof:

refer to latest Q3 report:
2016 cash and cash equivalents = RM141,018,000
2015 cash and cash equivalents = RM116,571,000

2016 long term borrowing = RM108,952,000
2016 short term borrowing = RM107,633,000
2015 long term borrowing = RM37,229,00
2015 short term borrowing = RM161,479,000

compare yourself:
net debt (minus cash) of 2016 as of sept 30th = RM75,567,000
net debt (minus cash) of 2015 as of sept 30th = RM82,137,000

in fact, evergreen has reduced their net debt in 2016 compared to 2015... so, confirmed you are misleading

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:31 | Report Abuse

starperformer.. 2013 and 2014 were bad years for evergreen.. see, u r picking on history.. how biased are you...

We are talking about future of evergreen... we have shown you proof that evergreen is growing strong into 2017..

stop mislead ppl now..

just like HEVEA.. there was once about to go bankrupt, but did i pick on that? (raider said that though but i did not)..

we talk about future, wake up pls

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:33 | Report Abuse

haha.. good one raider... this sxckperformer keeps talking about the past, when evergreen was not doing good..

RAIDER COMMENT;
IF LIKE THAT RAIDER CAN ASK WHAT ABOUT HEVEA BANKRUPT YEARS IN 2009 TO 2010 LEH ? GOT PAY ANY DIV MEH ?

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 15:41 | Report Abuse

Someone shared a good point here before about Donald Trump filed bankruptcy 3 times to protect the interest of his company but who is he today? US president-elect that is.

stockradio can look harder for more excuses to cover-up Evergreen's mountains of debts which stood at RM 215,585,000. What about the rest of the furniture makers listed in KLSE? I think u can choose wisely.

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:43 | Report Abuse

see.. how biased this sxckperformer is... we are aware of 2013 and 2014 to be bad years for evergreen...
but we invest for its future growth

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:46 | Report Abuse

oh ya.. u see..sxckperformer is slapping his own face..

if your theory applies to hevea, why not on evergreen?
evergreen has some manageable debt now, when they grow stronger with improved revenue and earning, they can pay off the debt.. just like hevea right?

you are contradicting to your own words.. brainless

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:47 | Report Abuse

why hevea's past history is something u can accept, but you can't accept current manageable debt of evergreen --> that the company will grow stronger and healthier from 2017 onwards...


seee, how biased you are

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:50 | Report Abuse

AGAIN, we invest in the future of evergreen.. wake up pls...
just like ppl invested in hevea 2 years ago...

no doubt hevea is a good company now.. but back in 2010? how?
evergreen is still better than hevea during its worst time..

still can;t see our logic?
FUTURE............... after all, evergreen current balance sheet is still healthy... manageable net debt of 75mil over shareholder equity 1billion.. it is only 0.075x ratio... high debt? your head

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 15:53 | Report Abuse

see.. sxckperformer really act like sifu (with quarter tin of water)... he talks about furniture maker.. come on la.. evergreen is not like liihen, pohuat, latitude, homeriz these "furniture" maker la.. u dunno, dun simply say la...

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 16:01 | Report Abuse

Dolly_chai, u must be trapped in Evergreen at very high costs. It must be so hard on u but don't worry, u will just have to wait another 2 years to get back ur invested sum since Evergreen doesn't pay dividends much.

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 16:10 | Report Abuse

Ah Dolly_chai, Ready-To-Assemble (RTA) is not furniture-making??? Walao!

Hevea's Annual Report 2015, page 3:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5079141

Our Ready-To-Assemble (“RTA”) furniture sector had also
contributed significantly to the Group. With the additional
capital expenditure (“CAPEX”) towards upgrading, we were
able to further achieve higher automation and a wider range of
higher value product diversifications. With that strategic move,
we expect to be able to mitigate the labour cost increase and
continue to contribute additionally to the Group. The RTA sector
had registered a 15.5% revenue growth to RM293.0 million in
FY 2015, up from RM253.6 million in FY 2014 and a PBT of
RM40.3 million in FY 2015, as compared with RM19.9 million in
FY 2014, an increase of 102.5%

Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 17:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5070781

On a longer term Strategy, the Group will be focusing on increasing its production volume for its Ready To Assemble
(RTA) Furniture Products as this will enable us to have a wider range of premium products that is able to fetch a higher
profit margin on its designs and quality.

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-20 16:22 | Report Abuse

Now it has become more obvious these two stockradio and Dolly_chai are just shooting whatever they want and whenever they can without facts to back-up their claims. If u are a half-filled jar/bottle, it's better u check the facts first before u attack, yes? lol

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-20 16:29 | Report Abuse

Big player ran away!

Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 16:33 | Report Abuse

May Day...!! May Day...!!
Abandon Ship....!! Abandon Ship...!!

Posted by Simple man > 2016-12-20 16:36 | Report Abuse

is it reversal sign?

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-20 16:37 | Report Abuse

As a speculator,better run first

Posted by bullorbear123 > 2016-12-20 16:47 | Report Abuse

As i said, as long as it falls under 1.40 I will start to collect, so bash as hard as you can

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-20 16:57 | Report Abuse

Run fast,Good world.

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 19:53 | Report Abuse

haha... sxckperformer aka dumbaxs:


I know RTA is ready to assemble furniture.. but currently it only consists of 5% of evergreen overall sales.. with that, you define "current" evergreen as furniture maker.. that is really brainless...

Evergreen is still mainly a MDF maker so you are comparing with current furniture maker..
can you be sharp enough? why are u so dumb? speechless...


still dun get my point... how idixtic is he... sigh

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 19:56 | Report Abuse

here is a scenario:

sxckperformer sells nasi lemak at his stall everyday... but one day a gxy guy paid him RM1 and he sold his butt (jual punggung).. just one time ya..

even though his major business is selling nasi lemak, but he defines himself as full time butt-seller.. wah... his definition is really speechless to me...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 19:59 | Report Abuse

a very smart value investor ricky yeo compared the furniture stocks and tell why they do not require much capex.. this quarter-tin water acts like sifu and categories evergreen as furniture stock at "current stage", and compare the debt...

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/JTYeo/96888.jsp

hi "smart" sxckperformer.. can u be a little sharper?

did Ricky mention evergreen as furniture stock in his post?

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 20:00 | Report Abuse

investors here.. u read the post above and you will know... (by Ricky Yeo)... not i said one...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 20:02 | Report Abuse

so my advice to the quarter-tin-water, pls la.. dun act like sifu la.. u make us so sick of u...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 20:06 | Report Abuse

pls la.. learn from Ricky Yeo and dun act like sifu.. EVERGREEN is never categorized as furniture stock at CURRENT STAGE... so it is unfair to compare its required capex and debt with furniture companies which are less capex-intensive...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-20 20:08 | Report Abuse

dun be a clown anymore, sxckperformer, ok?

Posted by leelc99 > 2016-12-20 23:19 | Report Abuse

I abandoned the ship yesterday...

Posted by leelc99 > 2016-12-20 23:20 | Report Abuse

But today selling volume is quite low.... hmm

Posted by leelc99 > 2016-12-20 23:20 | Report Abuse

Maybe still got show...

Posted by vinvestor > 2016-12-21 05:42 | Report Abuse

Consolidating for a higher level or towards previous high of 1.79.

Posted by yfchong > 2016-12-21 07:46 | Report Abuse

Good morning hevea club members.... what is your take.........breaks 1.57

Posted by Klse1 > 2016-12-21 08:22 | Report Abuse

today market green and usd slightly high, hope it can reach 1.57 or break it

Posted by starperformer > 2016-12-21 08:42 | Report Abuse

Dolly_chai, believe this: People will find out the truth that u are a joker and a half-filled jar. I've seen how u removed ur post yesterday in Evergreen board just to save ur own face. People can see the timestamp of comments, ok. I just laugh it out and continue to work because finally I realized u are really denying with FACTS which were taken out from quarterly and annual reports of both companies. Be truthful not only to the public but to yourself. Thank u!

Posted by Sephy > 2016-12-21 09:19 | Report Abuse

Latest data on fixed income fund flows shows significant (RM4.6bn) foreign selling of Malaysian bonds (MGS) in November, but only less than 20% of that got repatriated. There is risk that pressure on MYR/USD could sustain as investors continue to repatriate their bond sales. We also see some signs of foreign investors switching into Indon bonds from Malaysian bonds.

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-21 09:22 | Report Abuse

Back to below RM1.50 soon.

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-21 09:35 | Report Abuse

If play short term,better run now.

Posted by leelc99 > 2016-12-21 09:41 | Report Abuse

@Dave jet hahaha, truth

Posted by Dave Jet > 2016-12-21 09:43 | Report Abuse

Play short term,run fast very important

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-21 10:03 | Report Abuse

idixt sxckperformer, i never deleted my post at evergreen forum.. dun simply accuse me... u r so dumb and confused as i only posted that comment at hevea forum here.. idixt..

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2016-12-21 10:12 | Report Abuse

why would i delete my post on the current status of evergreen ( not a furniture stock at current stage), and then re-post?

what is the logic? u see how idixtic this sxckperformer is...

what i wrote is fact, why would i delete and re-post...

stop ur nonsense la.. joker..