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2,366 comment(s). Last comment by mcheat 3 weeks ago

bsngpg

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Posted by bsngpg > 2016-04-24 10:33 | Report Abuse

Yes, we should welcome recommendation especially by super investor. After that we need to use our brain to filter and luck to select the entry and exit price.
There are people here do not have luck and lose money by following the recommendation. Instead of admitting of their own poor luck, they choose an easy way to accuse the recommendation and the good intention of the well known philanthropist. Sigh !

curious2

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Posted by curious2 > 2016-04-24 10:43 | Report Abuse

So is CanOne KYY latest recommendation? What other stocks he recommend can still buy?

Posted by bsngpg > Apr 24, 2016 10:33 AM | Report Abuse
Yes, we should welcome recommendation especially by super investor. After that we need to use our brain to filter and luck to select the entry and exit price.
There are people here do not have luck and lose money by following the recommendation. Instead of admitting of their own poor luck, they choose an easy way to accuse the recommendation and the good intention of the well known philanthropist. Sigh !

bsngpg

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Posted by bsngpg > 2016-04-24 10:46 | Report Abuse

To LS: This article was released recently but the recommendation on CanOne was disclosed many months earlier by super investor. Along that few months, we are offered plenty of opportunities to buy low between 3.4-4.0. Some hard working people follow him even earlier than Nov 15 and got entry price even lower than 3. So if we do not follow the super investor close enough, and buying high following the later recommendation, our chance of winning money together with him is much reduced.

bsngpg

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Posted by bsngpg > 2016-04-24 10:50 | Report Abuse

The same stories happens on many other counters such as RSawit, JTiasa, FLB, Liihen etc. If you are smart and lucky, you make money along with super investor.

curious2

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Posted by curious2 > 2016-04-24 10:54 | Report Abuse

KYY last bought on 1st Apr when CanOne traded between 3.79-3.86. What price will he start to dispose or is he accumulating more?
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5061505

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-04-24 12:55 | Report Abuse

follow people is dumb investing strategy. it will never work.
a shepherd (smart investor) does research and buy some, but not very confident that the price will increase but his work show its undervalued stock (no one can 100% sure about anything, 500 years ago people think earth is square, you cant 100% sure your current knowledge is 100% truth). then price increased, he is confident and he buys more and recommends people the stock. during this period of time the price have gone up a lot. sheep (follower) saw the recommendation and buy at higher price. but the sheep never realise he bought at much higher price than the shepherd. then price drop some, sheep blames the shepherd.
you choose to be a sheep and you should take the consequence risk of being a sacrificial lamb.

dusti

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Posted by dusti > 2016-04-24 15:48 | Report Abuse

WOW SO,MANY PHILOSOPHERS................TQ YOU SILENCED ONE SORE ONE

goreng_kaki

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Posted by goreng_kaki > 2016-04-25 13:10 | Report Abuse

Kyy start dumping....run.......

Posted by leslieroycarter > 2016-04-25 13:15 | Report Abuse

He has recommended sell again....better read his latest blog....

dusti

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Posted by dusti > 2016-04-26 08:57 | Report Abuse

Any BS,les?

goreng_kaki

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Posted by goreng_kaki > 2016-04-26 13:26 | Report Abuse

Ah koon unloading......


Still dun wan run?????

fengtzekai

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Posted by fengtzekai > 2016-04-26 14:34 | Report Abuse

Interesting comments http://investmentkai.blogspot.my/2016/04/5105-canone.html

princehero

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Posted by princehero > 2016-04-26 22:40 | Report Abuse

can one no need worry so much.... just keep it till profit only sell.. got value wont go bust...

greatful

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Posted by greatful > 2016-04-27 09:11 | Report Abuse

buy

greatful

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Posted by greatful > 2016-04-27 09:11 | Report Abuse

typo

greatful

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Posted by greatful > 2016-04-27 09:11 | Report Abuse

bye

greatful

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Posted by greatful > 2016-04-27 09:11 | Report Abuse

lol

J2529

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Posted by J2529 > 2016-04-27 09:14 | Report Abuse

collect ....

mcheat

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Posted by mcheat > 2016-04-27 09:42 | Report Abuse

I read the annual report and noted something strange, on page 16, non executive directors are being paid salary!!! Is this a correct practice?

On page 17, a non-executive director is even getting more than the executive director. Someone should ask the directors in the AGM. Sadly I cant attend

mcheat

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Posted by mcheat > 2016-04-27 09:45 | Report Abuse

Cut and paste comments by unknown on kai's blog.....

#1
一个人走进超市,跟超市经理说要购买超市内所有的东西。
另外一个人走进同样的超市,跟经理说他要购买超市51%的拥有权.
第一个人,就像Aspire对建裕的献购案。要收购的项目是在董事局的管控范围内。
第二个人,就像Toyota对建裕的收购建议。要收购的项目,完全不在董事局的权限范围内!

建裕的管理层并没像你所说那样拒绝Toyota的建议,而是叫他们去寻求证券银行的协助,并遵从相关的证券法令来提出建议。如果Toyota有心献购,大马的证券市场的相关条文是相当明确的!

作为负责任的部落客,请在发表前确认资讯的准确性,以免加盐加醋误导群众。谢谢!

#2
关于借贷高,这是一个见仁见智的事。没有人阻止他们发附加股来减少贷款。但是他们还是选择向银行贷款,而且银行还真的贷款给他们。这足以表现出银行对管理层的信任跟能力。

你要知道,向银行贷款是要还的!向股东发附加股是不用还的!

股东们没有动用半分钱就同时拥有两只金鸡母,还有冠旺原本表现还不错的业务啊!

#3
“建裕珍厂这只母鸡就比较危险了,因为他们时时刻刻都在等有心人买走他们。”有点可笑。难不成你认为冠旺的董事局,如果真的卖掉建裕,就会黄飞鸿收档?

姑且不论RM480million 会为冠旺带来的利息,依照冠旺的董事局过去的记录,冠旺不会从此停摆。
2006年冠旺以RM8million买下F&B80%股权。短短九年就翻了不知多少倍。现在的价值非同日而语。

2012年1月以每股RM1.65以小吃大,买下建裕32.9%股权。不到几年有翻倍。

间中没有向股东拿一分一毫,这样的笋盘那里找?你说对吗?如果有钱在他们的手里,这家公司的前途如何,自己做推测吧。

Posted by CF Chong > 2016-04-27 09:56 | Report Abuse

Hi mcheat

I believe the figures you saw for the Canone non-exec. directors' salaries are Group figs. meaning that the non-exec. director ay the parent co. level could be Exec. Dir. in a subsidiary and therefore getting salaries.

Posted by CF Chong > 2016-04-27 09:57 | Report Abuse

at and not ay

dusti

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Posted by dusti > 2016-04-27 10:03 | Report Abuse

PEEPLE shd b collecting.....COLLECTING....

firehawk

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Posted by firehawk > 2016-04-27 10:04 | Report Abuse

how about KWAP? when they want to buy F&B?

mcheat

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Posted by mcheat > 2016-04-27 11:43 | Report Abuse

Hi cfelykj, what you have said does not make sense. If a director hold an executive position in any subsidiary, he will be considered executive director.

Otherwise, we will have executive director at subsidiary level claiming themselves to be independent at parent level. Somehow not right.

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-04-27 19:32 | Report Abuse

non executive director cant get salary??

princehero

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Posted by princehero > 2016-04-27 21:59 | Report Abuse

no need to worry over tiny issues.... most important canone got value n it go up.....

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-04-28 11:38 | Report Abuse

anyone know how to get F&B Nutrition S/B (2013-2015) financial statement?? i know S/B doesnt need to disclose its financial statement but if it is wholly owned by listed company anyhow to get?

im very curious about the value of F&B Nutrition.
2006 10million (80%@8million)
2015 564.5million (20%@112.9million) (net profit of 48million)
2016 933.33million (30%280million) *kwap willing to acquire
the increase in market value is just wow. no one wonder the behind of F&B value?? what kind of driver can drive so fast?? high debt? super effective and efficiency management? secret ingredient?? misleaded report??

J2529

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Posted by J2529 > 2016-04-28 11:56 | Report Abuse

any good news from AGM?

goreng_kaki

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Posted by goreng_kaki > 2016-04-28 12:34 | Report Abuse

Koon koon dispose??

J2529

379 posts

Posted by J2529 > 2016-04-28 14:54 | Report Abuse

us up ,msia down, us down, msia down. all bcoz of that guy

limayseng

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Posted by limayseng > 2016-04-28 16:07 | Report Abuse

dark days ahead for Malaysia....

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-28 16:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by crystal168 > Apr 23, 2016 09:54 PM | Report Abuse

don't pressure Sifu anymore, his Feng Shui already messed up.


crystals just as good as any fengsui

princehero

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Posted by princehero > 2016-04-28 22:27 | Report Abuse

added canone this 2 days...

bsngpg

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Posted by bsngpg > 2016-04-28 22:32 | Report Abuse

Me too.

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-04-29 23:28 | Report Abuse

anyone know canone ir contact email??

mcheat

62 posts

Posted by mcheat > 2016-04-30 11:18 | Report Abuse

You can try can1@canone.com.my. But useless one because they never respond.

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-05-02 00:01 | Report Abuse

sell in may and go away

firehawk

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Posted by firehawk > 2016-05-02 20:00 | Report Abuse

ha ha! so, littlelolita, u think now is not good timing to buy?

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-05-02 22:14 | Report Abuse

i think canone worth about RM5.81...
im not sure it is good timing to buy or not.

red_85

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Posted by red_85 > 2016-05-02 23:24 | Report Abuse

based on last result, it only worth 3.5-4...do your due diligence

natukkong

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Posted by natukkong > 2016-05-03 11:19 | Report Abuse

based on asset valuation, it worth 5.5-6.. do your due diligence

dusti

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Posted by dusti > 2016-05-03 12:17 | Report Abuse

If expert wants to pluck numbers from the sky, must choose sunny day for clearer vision. Rain clouds can cause disaster. If you are genuine you have to try again

Posted by littlelolita > 2016-05-05 22:46 | Report Abuse

stop giving fault info.. annual report 2014 no kyy and annual report 2015 kyy is the top 30, kyy has 5 accounts and do the maths, the sum is 15,958,300. so obvious kyy bought canone during 2015. 2015 canone share price is 2.10 - 4.58, i guess kyy bought around 2.61-4.08(average 3.35) when mid oct to nov, there was huge volume transacted

or you suggest kyy bought another 16million share at 1/4/16?? then kyy owned 32million shares/16.6%?? become 2nd largest shareholder?? you think teh khoy gen allow that happen?? in case you dont know who is teh khoy gen, he is F&B nutrition boss. or i should say he was but he is canone boss now.

ah_boon

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Posted by ah_boon > 2016-05-05 22:51 | Report Abuse

Just abandon this share. Huge debt. After sell F&B nutrition, you think Can One will award investors much? Think again, its to pay of its debt first. Even at RM4.00, its considered expensive already as the share prices already increase a lot last year. Someone has been pumping the share up to catch attention.

princehero

564 posts

Posted by princehero > 2016-05-06 22:30 | Report Abuse

if f&b nutrition is valued at 500 mil plus in early 2015 n in 2016 is valued at 900 mil plus, something muz be rite... if yeoh jin hoe willing to dilute it's canone shares to increase f&b nutrition stakes in canone , soemthing muz be rite oso... diluting his canone shares which definitely got value with kianjoo stakes.. not really sure wat f&b nutrition doing.. maybe need to be secretive to prevent competitor emerge....

Posted by kiasuinvestor > 2016-05-06 22:42 | Report Abuse

there is something shenanigan in F&B, if you look at the annual report they try to hide F&B. annual report 2014 there is summarised F&B 2014, but in annual report 2015 there is summarised F&B 2014 again. they try to hide summarised F&B 2015. i have email to the management they never respond about it.

Posted by _OptimusPrime_ > 2016-05-07 11:27 | Report Abuse

Kyy. Haiz. Do more bad than good ultimately. Being used by syndicate...

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