One need to understand that REIT distributes dividend doesn't mean price won't drop. Just same as you buy property. Those who bought after 2014, condos, who are making money? So, what sectors and locations are important too. You won't wanna buy badly managed shopping malls or offices. Btw, everyone knows offices oversupplied. I suggest diversified into Sunway REITs, AXIS REIT, IGB REIT and of course YTLREIT. If you agree with what Jack Ma said, future generations will spend more time travel and hotels will be in high demand. Of course, well managed and quality hotel. I am reluctant to say this but JW Marriott KL is actually underpriced for it's quality and location. I am reluctant cos i like to stay there for my wife's shopping. When hotel rates go up, YTLREIT can get better rental rate. All other countries hotel rate has gone up at least 20%, Singapore 50%. Now, RM400 can only get you 3 star hotel (lousy one) in SG.
Let us do the maths again. Current half yearly div is 4.38 cts. Coming half yearly should be more. So no yearly div as it is is 8.76 cts. At a price of say RM 1. It gives an annual div of 8.76%. Nett after tax is 7.89 % which is very very good.
The Niseko land bank is under YTL Corp. Only Hilton Niseko Village has been injected from YTL Corp into YTL REIT so far, the other 5 hotels/resorts are still under YTL Corp to be injected into YTL REIT when each asset matures.
i believe tax on dividend are all deducted at source..... meaning tax already paid, but if you are in a position where you dont need to pay tax, then you can use the confirmation slip to seek tax refund
FUN FACT: For those interested. If you're wondering whether you should pay personal income tax for REIT stocks and by how much, this should be and interesting read.
Usually all dividends are declared AFTER corporate tax. In such case no need declare in income tax as Malaysia only practices SINGLE taxation and not DOUBLE taxation. Also Malaysia does not have CAPITAL GAINS TAX on non-property asset sales (only applicable on PROPERTY ie RPGT). This applies if company distributes at least 90% of income to shareholders. However, an exemption to the rule if Income less than 90% is distributed to shareholders.
If a (Real Estate Investment Trusts) fund distributed at least 90 percent of their total yearly income to unit holders, the REIT itself is exempted from tax for that year of assessment.
However, unit holders are liable to tax on the distribution of income. Since the income distributed by REITs are tax exempt, no tax credit under subsection 110(9A) of the Income Tax Act (ITA) 1967 would be available to the unit holders.
On the other hand, tax exempt income received by REITs and subsequently distributed to unit holders continue to be tax exempt in the hands of these unit holders.
REITs unit holders are taxed in the year of assessment the distribution is received not the financial year of the REITs.
Starting for the year 2009, tax for REIT dividend has been amended. If a unit holder has income from sources other than REITs, an Income Tax Return Form (ITRF) has to be filed (e.g. Form BE, B or M for individuals or Form C for companies), income from REITs is not required to be included in the ITRF form as the Withholding Tax is a final tax.
So I believe that since its NON EXEMPT, personal tax must declare this amount received together with personal OTHER income as well to arrive at final amount whether it will be taxable or not.
@speakup I have YTLREIT in my portfolio as well. BTW, dont you have any other useful and meaningful things to say in all of your posts other than your usual one liner nonsense? In every post in every forum you tend to post non related stuff. Grow up buddy.
@diggerDC Non exempt means taxable. If you compared with IGBREIT, the later has both portions - one taxable and another portion not taxable. In the case of YTL REIT it is stated all taxable. I have both in my portfolio. I repost the term 'non exempt' in reply to user @willsmith above
@jeffchan1901 my dividend tax voucher shows gross dividend, minus income tax, then final net dividend. Then need to declare again in yearly tax filing?
@diggerDC Sorry for late reply as didnt check forum lately. I am not sure why yours show income tax portion. Are you self trading directly with stock broker or via proxies like Rakuten, etc? If you are trading thru proxies perhaps they have some policies like with holding tax and all. As far as the info from LHDN is concern, it's pretty clear. As this will be my first YTLREIT dividend, I have yet to receive to comment further. For IGBREIT, the taxable portion is from offices and hence taxed nominal sum at company. For the hotel portion it's not taxed and I believe this needs to be reported to LHDN. For YTLREIT by right since not taxed earlier, you need to declare in your filings if the above conditions are not met for exemption. Normal company stocks taxed earlier need not be declared due to single layer taxation. For REIT it may be under a special category especially for hospitality which YTLREIT all assets fall under it unlike IGBREIT with dual Office and Hospitality and also distributes at least 90% of net income
@Fundamental Trafer, thanks for the link. This provides clarity and confirms what I read from LHDN. So based on your links, I can conclude that mayhaps YTLREIT may be subjected to personal tax of 15% if they did not distribute at least 90pc of distributable income.
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One need to understand that REIT distributes dividend doesn't mean price won't drop. Just same as you buy property. Those who bought after 2014, condos, who are making money?
So, what sectors and locations are important too. You won't wanna buy badly managed shopping malls or offices. Btw, everyone knows offices oversupplied.
I suggest diversified into Sunway REITs, AXIS REIT, IGB REIT and of course YTLREIT. If you agree with what Jack Ma said, future generations will spend more time travel and hotels will be in high demand. Of course, well managed and quality hotel. I am reluctant to say this but JW Marriott KL is actually underpriced for it's quality and location. I am reluctant cos i like to stay there for my wife's shopping.
When hotel rates go up, YTLREIT can get better rental rate. All other countries hotel rate has gone up at least 20%, Singapore 50%. Now, RM400 can only get you 3 star hotel (lousy one) in SG.